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Old Mar 18, 2018, 03:20 PM
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Good. Now let’s see what else we can discuss regarding the topic

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What would you like to discuss?
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Anger. I just started feeling it. Emotions tend to hold me in place. I am very angry. ALLOT
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Old Mar 26, 2018, 09:17 AM
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OK I thought about it. I will never use the word again, I also think I can find better words to describe whatever it is I want to say
I am not sure if I’ll write here at least for now, but if I do I ask for critics regarding the small things such as words, but I don’t want it to lead to a sway off-topic.

By the way, regarding the topic, I learned that emotional maturity can only be learned through communication and not on your own. You may correct me if I’m wrong

I have nothing else to say for now, except I’m open to hear of whatever it is you have to say.

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Old Mar 26, 2018, 04:48 PM
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I am learning non violent communication, NVC, for short. From what I understand so far, communication can be at the jackal level, which is your feelings of reacting, venting, linked to the past, interperating. If you instead, first observe the situation, explore your feelings, recognize you want to form a connection, offer empathy, find your need or the other person's need, then ask for a specific action to fulfill your need. This is called communication of a giraffe. You are looking from a high perspective on the situation. I love the idea of breaking communication down to all its parts and finding common ground with being vulnerable with your needs. I don't believe anyone gets to sit up high on the mountain and say they have the answers because they are emotionally mature. I have a relationship with a gentle curious person, I think we are all on a journey and I like to bring my heart along always.
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I am learning non violent communication, NVC, for short. From what I understand so far, communication can be at the jackal level, which is your feelings of reacting, venting, linked to the past, interperating. If you instead, first observe the situation, explore your feelings, recognize you want to form a connection, offer empathy, find your need or the other person's need, then ask for a specific action to fulfill your need. This is called communication of a giraffe. You are looking from a high perspective on the situation. I love the idea of breaking communication down to all its parts and finding common ground with being vulnerable with your needs. I don't believe anyone gets to sit up high on the mountain and say they have the answers because they are emotionally mature. I have a relationship with a gentle curious person, I think we are all on a journey and I like to bring my heart along always.
Do you by chance have reference material related to these NVC examples you've given. I would like to read more about the subject. Thanks in advance!
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I had an interesting therapy session with my H & our psychologist before I finally left him.

My H refused to ever take responsibility for his behaviors & laid blame on everything & everyone other than himself. The conversation was about his unsuccessful career being because he went to a state university instead of Cal Tec. I point out in frknt of our psycholigist that my H's younger brother went to the same state university, got his masters there & ay the time was an deputy director of a local power plant. I pointed out that his failure had nothing todo with the school but his own attitude while attending because he had even admitted when we first met that he didn't bother doing the work in the classes where he KNEW he was smarter than the professor. All this came out in the session.

Our psycholigist pointed out that a sign of emotional maturity is about taking responsibility for one's own choices, behaviors, & thoughts. He also said that my H had the emotional maturity of a 12 year old given the conversation along with all the other issues including his financial irresponsibility. Instead of being responsible, if he wanted something, instant gratification was what he wanted instead of being responsible & waiting till the time & money was appropriate which was why he accumulated so much debt.

It is not easy to make a good separation between maturity & emotional maturity. It seems like immaturity in one usually includes immaturity in the other.
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Old Mar 28, 2018, 02:55 PM
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Hi Falo, The book I read is called 'Nonviolent Communication" by Marshall B.Rosenberg. I got to practice sessions of communication at a NVC centre. You can look them up on the computer to see if any are near you. I never felt heard, or known by my alcoholic mom, so the subject of communication has always been interesting to me.
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Old Mar 28, 2018, 04:56 PM
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Good post, I agree..

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I am not understanding your example very well, but I think you may be misunderstanding the definition of emotional maturity.

An emotionally mature person does not cause another to break down. An emotionally mature person handles others' emotions with care, concern and delicacy.

"... behave in an adult manner when dealing with others" means treating others with an adult-like maturity. This does not mean causing breakdowns in others... that is emotional manipulation, power and control over another.

It seems to me, and I may be off, but those you have dealt with in life whom you think are emotionally mature in fact have been arrogant about their maturity level and also use it as a weapon of power over others. That's just the sense I am getting. That is NOT emotional maturity -- that is about emotional abuse.
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Do you by chance have reference material related to these NVC examples you've given. I would like to read more about the subject. Thanks in advance!
Never mind. Found it. Should have googled before I asked.
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Old Mar 28, 2018, 06:07 PM
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Hi Falo, The book I read is called 'Nonviolent Communication" by Marshall B.Rosenberg. I got to practice sessions of communication at a NVC centre. You can look them up on the computer to see if any are near you. I never felt heard, or known by my alcoholic mom, so the subject of communication has always been interesting to me.
Ha! I didn't look for your reply and then I said never mind. Thanks for the note. I've watched a workshop and I really like this stuff. Going to see if it can help me in my turbulent relationship.

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Old Mar 28, 2018, 06:32 PM
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Many factors go into a relationship...yes, emotional maturity, but to me, I need someone thoughtful, a good listener, kind, non-judgemental, emotionally responsive, someone that is generous with their time, since this affects how and when we spend time together.

I have had many friendships with people from my support group, some have flourished, others were stifled by mental illness, either my own or theirs, or both working negatively at each other.

Whenever I form a friendship outside of my support group, it makes me healthier...like I am capable of being friends with any member of the population at large...along with that, though, comes fear....how can a friendship work with someone without a diagnosis? Should I disclose my mental illness? Will I be judged? How can I possibly explain how difficult my life has been, to someone that has had a life without huge problems?

Big questions. There are no simple answers.

I will continue to throw myself into all friendships, though. From my support group, or from the big world, out there.....
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