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Old Feb 24, 2019, 04:15 PM
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If you believe there is no help, then you just ought to inform whoever you are dating that it’s where you at in life and just go from there.
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Old Feb 26, 2019, 07:20 PM
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And I've seeked help for 20 years. I can't afford the help and the public system I've been locked up in is a flawless underfunded waste of time so their isn't any good help out there for me
I'm so sorry to hear this . I don't know whether or not you should be in a relationship. I just know that you need support and treatment either way.

You surviving and trying for the past 20 years, shows a great endurance and a genuine desire to heal on your part.

I hope PC is helpful to you in some ways (It's free and we are supportive ). If there are no good services in your area, you may have to consider traveling a little further for a better care.
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Old Mar 01, 2019, 03:29 AM
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So just a little bit of a backstory: I used to be in a relationship (for almost 2 years) and it basically enhanced my depression and suicidal tendencies and that always caused strain on the relationship. My depression kept telling me he deserves better and that I'm not good enough for him etc. When my suicidal tendencies got really bad I tried breaking up with him because I wanted to kill myself and didn't want him to know about my suicide. I sabotaged my relationship because of my depression. It got really bad to the point that now I 100% believe that my death is going to be from suicide and that it is inevitable. From there on out I oathed that I will never date again (or even have kids) because of my commitment issues and my suicidal ideation.

Fastforward to now, I realized that since I'm so emotionally unavailable and can't have a relationship I'll have what I can still have - sex. So off I went on Tinder having multiple hookups without having to worry about commitment and anything long term.

But then comes a guy (let's call him 'B') and he is so sweet to me. Everytime he comes to see me he always brings me a little gift, texts me with heart/kiss emojis, drives me to work, and has even started calling me babe. Sometimes he even calls me in the middle of the day just to talk for fun and catch up about our day. I can tell he's 'vetting' me about our compatibility on major topics such as religion and even vaccines. I can tell he really really likes me. He checks all the boxes that I would want in a boyfriend so it just sucks that he came into my life at such a bad time.

He's a sweetheart but I'm scared. I was not ready for this. I'm not mentally stable and never will be. My friends and coworkers are pressuring me to go with the flow and date him. But my depression/suicidal ideation is so bad I don't want that to ruin any more relationships. I don't want that to strain the relationship if I start dating B.

He's on vacation right now for 2 weeks so I have time to think about what I want to do. I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place. My commitment issues and the fact that I think I will 100% die from suicide sooner or later is deterring me from even chancing a relationship (also no, I'm not seeing a therapist/psychiatrist - I can't afford one). I don't want my SO heartbroken from a loss of their partner because of suicide nor do I want to leave my future kids without a mother. It's just a super difficult decision to make.

So now I'm thinking: how do people with depression maintain a relationship? Doesn't suicidal ideation cause HUGE guilt/strain while in a relationship? How can you maintain a healthy relationship with your SO with your mental health issues especially at times when you're contemplating suicide?
I echo the sentiments of other users here saying that if you wish to continue this relationship, it would be in both your interests to inform them of your suicidal ideation. At least you'd be giving them a choice, and you'd be alleviating compounding guilt on your part. Im curious though, what is stopping you from telling this person and what stopped you from telling your previous partner? Fear of losing them?

But assuming this person wishes to continue this. There are more things to consider.

Did your previous partners ignorance of your mental health issues contribute largely to the exacerbation of your depression? Because it seems like that wasn't all there was to it, if that had any part at all. You mention your self loathing behaviors, so my question is did that have more to do with the nature of your depression than the guilt of your partner not knowing? If so, perhaps that is something that should be explained.

As to you being unable to afford a proffesional. Well, what else have you tried in an attempt to treat yourself? Did you used to see a proffesional? Online forums? Local groups? Is there anything in your life that helps relieve your depression? Even if temporarily?

How long have you been depressed? Is there a cause you can pinpoint to?

Feel free to ignore some questions.. just trying to gain more of an understanding of your situation. The more info, the more we might be able to help you in someway.
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Old Mar 01, 2019, 05:46 PM
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[QUOTE=ennie;6451728]I'm so sorry to hear this . I don't know whether or not you should be in a relationship. I just know that you need support and treatment either way.

You surviving and trying for the past 20 years, shows a great endurance and a genuine desire to heal on your part.

I hope PC is helpful to you in some ways (It's free and we are supportive ). If there are no good services in your area, you may have to consider traveling a little further for a better care. :sadhug

Hi.

Thanks but money will only get me help and lots of it. The public system is a joke. And I know it won't help me. I know what I need to try but there is no way.
I'm not in a relationship I don't see anyone live alone can't work and years of medication pain killers another story 2 major back surgeries . My teeth a rotting away that's the end for me. I don't want or see anyone I know or strangers to see me.
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Old Mar 04, 2019, 01:29 PM
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Bubbles00,

any more thoughts to share with us? hows it going?

you explained your situation so well, thank you for putting my own experience into words. i was in the same situation, more or less... i ended up breaking up with my BF. but not so much for the sui ideation as much because i was unable to love him. the sui ideation is still my plan A though. and i feel guilty even for letting my friend to be my friend.

have you tried talking about your sui ideation with your BF? i think maybe letting him know and letting him decide whether he wants to stay with you or not would be a good way to go.

hows it going these days?
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Old Mar 04, 2019, 02:12 PM
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So just a little bit of a backstory: I used to be in a relationship (for almost 2 years) and it basically enhanced my depression and suicidal tendencies and that always caused strain on the relationship. My depression kept telling me he deserves better and that I'm not good enough for him etc. When my suicidal tendencies got really bad I tried breaking up with him because I wanted to kill myself and didn't want him to know about my suicide. I sabotaged my relationship because of my depression. It got really bad to the point that now I 100% believe that my death is going to be from suicide and that it is inevitable. From there on out I oathed that I will never date again (or even have kids) because of my commitment issues and my suicidal ideation.

Fastforward to now, I realized that since I'm so emotionally unavailable and can't have a relationship I'll have what I can still have - sex. So off I went on Tinder having multiple hookups without having to worry about commitment and anything long term.

But then comes a guy (let's call him 'B') and he is so sweet to me. Everytime he comes to see me he always brings me a little gift, texts me with heart/kiss emojis, drives me to work, and has even started calling me babe. Sometimes he even calls me in the middle of the day just to talk for fun and catch up about our day. I can tell he's 'vetting' me about our compatibility on major topics such as religion and even vaccines. I can tell he really really likes me. He checks all the boxes that I would want in a boyfriend so it just sucks that he came into my life at such a bad time.

He's a sweetheart but I'm scared. I was not ready for this. I'm not mentally stable and never will be. My friends and coworkers are pressuring me to go with the flow and date him. But my depression/suicidal ideation is so bad I don't want that to ruin any more relationships. I don't want that to strain the relationship if I start dating B.

He's on vacation right now for 2 weeks so I have time to think about what I want to do. I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place. My commitment issues and the fact that I think I will 100% die from suicide sooner or later is deterring me from even chancing a relationship (also no, I'm not seeing a therapist/psychiatrist - I can't afford one). I don't want my SO heartbroken from a loss of their partner because of suicide nor do I want to leave my future kids without a mother. It's just a super difficult decision to make.

So now I'm thinking: how do people with depression maintain a relationship? Doesn't suicidal ideation cause HUGE guilt/strain while in a relationship? How can you maintain a healthy relationship with your SO with your mental health issues especially at times when you're contemplating suicide?
I have noticed that you have only posted this one time and have not come back to post anything else.

It's actually very brave when struggling so badly like this and sharing it like you did. Often others don't realize how "unsafe" it can feel to put one's self out there like you did.

Depression definitely has a spectrum to it, some people can manage it while others really genuinely struggle to manage it. It can be extremely hard to think about a "future" when struggling with severe depression too. Some people don't understand that, especially not those who are fighters and commit to thriviing somehow despite their challenge with mental illness.

Also, there are individuals who suffer from depression that often present as being calm verses other anxiety disorders where a person can be a bit neurotic. It sounds like you may fit into that category and this new guy that is looking at you in terms of being more committed is focusing on this quiet calmness not realizing there is something very fragile in you that isn't showing.

What is it about this guy that you like? You mentioned that he has qualities you really like, can you share what those are? Can we just set aside your dark part for a bit and talk about that? Is that ok?
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