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Old Nov 23, 2020, 10:56 AM
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OMG your therapist was right. Save these texts. Make sure you have them saved. Might come handy

Thinking of you. Have you in my dreams. That’s cheating even if not physical although might be by now.
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Old Nov 23, 2020, 10:57 AM
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He is trying to claim it's not what I think - BS!!!!!!!! What am I, stupid?????? He's been lusting after her all this time. AND lied to me repeatedly all this time. Claiming he would NEVER do such a thing to me.
IT IS what you think. 100%
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Old Nov 23, 2020, 11:01 AM
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I am so sorry. Even in no fault divorce infidelity might play a role. In the lights of cheating and being abusive and you not working he might be made to pay for your lawyer. File ASAP
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Old Nov 23, 2020, 11:06 AM
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I can't understand your mind frame here, Have Hope.

- You're divorcing him.
- You want him gone ASAP.
- You know he's a scumbag.

Yet I can tell that you're upset about that text thing you've mentioned. It doesn't make any sense. WHO CARES? Come on, you're punching yourself for no reason here, it's time to stop.
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Old Nov 23, 2020, 11:10 AM
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NO. I am not Ok whatsoever. He just came home to talk to me and I went ballistic on him. This time, I was the one yelling and screaming at him.

I cannot change the locks. He is on the lease, so he has a right to be in this apartment, too. I cannot kick him out.
I know it's not what you want, but considering what he's put you through, including physical abuse, you could probably keep him out and get him off the lease lawfully. It's just a thought.
Sorry for what you are going through
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Old Nov 23, 2020, 11:11 AM
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Thanks @divine1966. I have contacted one lawyer already to hopefully get on the phone today. She's dealt with abuse victims and is a female advocate. And it IS cheating. He denies this though.

@MisterPaul PLEASE. I am outraged and should be. I cannot even reply to your post. It's ridiculous.
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Old Nov 23, 2020, 11:13 AM
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I know it's not what you want, but considering what he's put you through, including physical abuse, you could probably keep him out and get him off the lease lawfully. It's just a thought.
Sorry for what you are going through
Thank you.

I may be able to -- I really hope I can speak with this lawyer today.
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Old Nov 23, 2020, 11:14 AM
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I can't understand your mind frame here, Have Hope.

- You're divorcing him.
- You want him gone ASAP.
- You know he's a scumbag.

Yet I can tell that you're upset about that text thing you've mentioned. It doesn't make any sense. WHO CARES? Come on, you're punching yourself for no reason here, it's time to stop.

Just because someone wants a divorce doesn’t mean there are no feelings for a spouse. She can’t just turn off her feelings. I suspect that she may still have some kind of feelings for her husband which IMO makes this hurt even more. Who cares? SHE cares.
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Old Nov 23, 2020, 11:20 AM
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Just because someone wants a divorce doesn’t mean there are no feelings for a spouse. She can’t just turn off her feelings. I suspect that she may still have some kind of feelings for her husband which IMO makes this hurt even more. Who cares? SHE cares.
Exactly. He's been my husband for nearly two years. It's also the principle of the matter. And I have every right to be outraged by his infidelity. He SWORE and PROMISED he would NEVER do anything of the kind.
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Old Nov 23, 2020, 11:21 AM
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Mister Paul it’s still upsetting to find out such thing even if one plans on divorcing.
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I apologise, I was picturing myself in your shoes and, well... being a sociopath sometimes causes bad judgment. Sorry.
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Old Nov 23, 2020, 11:23 AM
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Makes me also wonder that he got scared you might divorce him and he is now trying to hurry up and butter women up to see if he can move in with them and such. I wonder if this female is single.
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Old Nov 23, 2020, 11:53 AM
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Makes me also wonder that he got scared you might divorce him and he is now trying to hurry up and butter women up to see if he can move in with them and such. I wonder if this female is single.
I think she's single with a child. Yes, he did get scared. He probably was trying to butter up the next person.
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Old Nov 23, 2020, 01:45 PM
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I ALMOST just called her at work to tell her off.
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Old Nov 23, 2020, 02:13 PM
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I tore up every single wedding picture and put it in pile in the kitchen for him to see. I removed him from my Facebook photos, set my status to single and changed my profile pic. I threw out our wedding albums and honeymoon memorabilia.
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Old Nov 23, 2020, 02:21 PM
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I ALMOST just called her at work to tell her off.
He is the one married and contacting her with thinking of her or what not. Sure she shouldn’t partake but responsibilities lay with him. If not her he’d find someone else. You could contact his work place with evidence of inappropriate behavior but I’d not embarrass myself by contacting her. He is at fault not her.
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Old Nov 23, 2020, 02:23 PM
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He is the one married and contacting her with thinking of her or what not. Sure she shouldn’t partake but responsibilities lay with him. If not her he’d find someone else. You could contact his work place with evidence of inappropriate behavior but I’d not embarrass myself by contacting her. He is at fault not her.
Yeah, I hung up the phone before I did anything like confront her.
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Old Nov 23, 2020, 02:32 PM
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I wonder if he told her he is in process of divorce
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Old Nov 23, 2020, 02:38 PM
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He told her last week that he was, when I was about to divorce him then. She invited him over for Thanksgiving!
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Old Nov 23, 2020, 03:10 PM
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Great. So she thinks he is pretty much available.

How did you find out she invited him to thanksgiving?
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Old Nov 23, 2020, 03:19 PM
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He told me so. She invited him when she thought we were divorcing a week ago.

I did leave her an angry voicemail. I don't care. I am SO outraged... my anger is deep. All I feel right now is RAGE over the lies he has been telling me, all this time.
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I don't want to cause any fear or upset, but he can probably sense that you are moving on, and will try and make this go smoothly for HIMSELF. You might think I'm projecting, but everything you say is very familiar to me. If I was you, I would be very careful to get out, or keep him out, before he decides you have become a problem (getting in the way of him bringing someone home).
I'm sorry this is very harsh, but please do not underestimate what your husband might do if he isn't getting his narcissistic need for ego stroking met.
You might think that telling him off is standing up for yourself, but just the fact that he has created an upset and you are showing interest is feeding his ego.
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Old Nov 23, 2020, 03:29 PM
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I don't want to cause any fear or upset, but he can probably sense that you are moving on, and will try and make this go smoothly for HIMSELF. You might think I'm projecting, but everything you say is very familiar to me. If I was you, I would be very careful to get out, or keep him out, before he decides you have become a problem (getting in the way of him bringing someone home).
I'm sorry this is very harsh, but please do not underestimate what your husband might do if he isn't getting his narcissistic need for ego stroking met.
You might think that telling him off is standing up for yourself, but just the fact that he has created an upset and you are showing interest is feeding his ego.
I don't even care right now if my upset and rage is feeding his meagre ego. I am letting him have it. He deserves my wrath. He deserves to be kicked and punched. I told him so this morning. But I wouldn't dare get physical with him. I am not a violent person.

I may have an apartment to move into on January 1 through a friend.
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Hope- I can appreciate how enraged you feel now. And I know that the ex and him are responsible for their own actions. But I think you should avoid any further contact with the ex despite how satisfying it can be to let someone have it. I don’t want him to twist the whole thing around and imply that you are stalky or that you are paranoid or anything. I also don’t know what the ex is capable of and I wouldn’t want the two of them to conspire to paint you as unstable.
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Old Nov 23, 2020, 03:42 PM
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Hope- I can appreciate how enraged you feel now. And I know that the ex and him are responsible for their own actions. But I think you should avoid any further contact with the ex despite how satisfying it can be to let someone have it. I don’t want him to twist the whole thing around and imply that you are stalky or that you are paranoid or anything. I also don’t know what the ex is capable of and I wouldn’t want the two of them to conspire to paint you as unstable.
Thanks for your concern.

I don't care. He deserves a severe lashing from me, and he's getting it.
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