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Old Jun 20, 2021, 07:21 PM
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I'm 26 and I'm not a big fan of long-term relationships so I've been around the block for few years now.

When I was out of shape I had to lead, big time. Girl asking me one question in first 30 minutes was super rare. I even got spit on once lol

When I shaped up and took care of my skin and invested lots of money into my style, I got great results with very little effort. Still, when I showed up on a party with a friend of mine who's looks like a model I wasn nothing more than his shadow to all women in the room.


Yes, its about attraction and looks.
Well, I guess I owe you an apology. You're 26, and I am twice your age but by guppies you know more than I do.

I wish you the best of luck.
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Old Jun 20, 2021, 07:28 PM
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And? I'm talking about laws of attraction and it's likely I've been on dating battlefield longer than you since, as I said before, I'm not a relationship kind of guy. Marriage is much different.
yeah, I spent a whole 15 minutes on "the dating battlefield". 🙄

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Old Jun 20, 2021, 08:30 PM
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In all fairness to BigBubba at 26 his piers can actually still be shallow and all about looks still

That can be a difficult age imho.
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yeah, I spent a whole 15 minutes on "the dating battlefield". 🙄

You can pretend to know anything you want, but trust me my boy, you would be shocked to your core if you knew what you think you know.
There we go, dating professor joined the chat. If you think the rules haven't changed, you're living in the past. Today attractive woman can find guy to talk to while eating breakfast (tinder). And yeah, tinder - the app where you basically swipe right if you like someone or swipe left when you don't. Like = looks only. I bet it wasn't there when you were my age, or am I wrong? Because I'm here, right now, and I can feel the reality on my skin. You're married and you're out the game. You said you're married longer than I'm alive so you've been out the game for a loooooong time.

You can label me as stupid as you pretty much did because of my age or you can think about what I'm saying to you. Imagine a random pretty girl - Sarah.

There is a difference between Sarah who meets 2-3 potential partners a year and Sarah who gets 30 guys ready to talk to her in 10 minutes on tinder.
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Old Jun 21, 2021, 02:44 AM
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There we go, dating professor joined the chat. If you think the rules haven't changed, you're living in the past. Today attractive woman can find guy to talk to while eating breakfast (tinder). And yeah, tinder - the app where you basically swipe right if you like someone or swipe left when you don't. Like = looks only. I bet it wasn't there when you were my age, or am I wrong? Because I'm here, right now, and I can feel the reality on my skin. You're married and you're out the game. You said you're married longer than I'm alive so you've been out the game for a loooooong time.

You can label me as stupid as you pretty much did because of my age or you can think about what I'm saying to you. Imagine a random pretty girl - Sarah.

There is a difference between Sarah who meets 2-3 potential partners a year and Sarah who gets 30 guys ready to talk to her in 10 minutes on tinder.
Well the thing is that the title of the thread is asking if looks are more important than personality in RELATIOSHIPS. That’s the title of the thread.

It wasn’t asking if it’s more important in getting chats with random guys on a hook up site

Good looking girls will get more hits and chats on a hook up site like tinder, it’s true, or on any dating site.

But it will not be more important than personality in a relationship because guys will drop her like a hot potato if she has a nasty personality and her life is a mess (if they consider relationship). Her looks will not be more important in a relationship

Plenty of average or below average looking people enjoy happy relationships. If looks were more important, only good looking people will be in relationships and it’s simply not true.

I think that’s where disconnect is. People talking about relationships because that’s what thread was about but you talk about good looking people being noticed more. And specifically use example of a hook up site. It’s not the same topic. It’s a valid topic, just a different one.
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Old Jun 21, 2021, 03:07 AM
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I think that’s where disconnect is. People talking about relationships because that’s what thread was about but you talk about good looking people being noticed more. And specifically use example of a hook up site. It’s not the same topic. It’s a valid topic, just a different one.
Three of my friends found spouses on those "hook up sites". So... why "hook up sites"? Maybe it's different abroad, but in Poland people actually get to know each other on these sites, long-term.

My point is that, in my opinion, personality doesnt matter without at least decent looks. And I honestly believe that prettier people can get away with much more than less attractive folks. Also, I can't prove it based on my expierence, but I feel like many people would choose someone with worse personality if they were higher on the looks ladder. When things go south on the couple, physcial attraction is very often the only thing that keeps the two of them "hooked". I mean even on this forum in the "divorce" section we can find many broken marriages when one party says "but I'm still attracted to him". That proves my point.
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Old Jun 21, 2021, 08:33 AM
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There we go, dating professor joined the chat. If you think the rules haven't changed, you're living in the past. Today attractive woman can find guy to talk to while eating breakfast (tinder). And yeah, tinder - the app where you basically swipe right if you like someone or swipe left when you don't. Like = looks only. I bet it wasn't there when you were my age, or am I wrong? Because I'm here, right now, and I can feel the reality on my skin. You're married and you're out the game. You said you're married longer than I'm alive so you've been out the game for a loooooong time.

You can label me as stupid as you pretty much did because of my age or you can think about what I'm saying to you. Imagine a random pretty girl - Sarah.

There is a difference between Sarah who meets 2-3 potential partners a year and Sarah who gets 30 guys ready to talk to her in 10 minutes on tinder.
Say whatever you want. I could care less. There are many types of relationships, many types of people, more lifestyles in the community, genders, scenes, activities, places and people you don't know exist.

I don't think you're stupid. Sadly, I think you're hopeless. Many many people on this thread have offered you great advice. You might want to listen, but I doubt you will.
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Old Jun 21, 2021, 08:50 AM
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I think you're hopeless.
I have no idea what you're talking about right now. When I was physically unnatractive I was doing not so well with women. When I shaped up and became attractive I had some spectacular results and mostly I was doing very well. The conclusion was looks matter a lot. Now I share that point of view and you call me hopeless?

Are you making fun of me right now or what?
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Old Jun 21, 2021, 09:08 AM
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I have no idea what you're talking about right now. When I was physically unnatractive I was doing not so well with women. When I shaped up and became attractive I had some spectacular results and mostly I was doing very well. The conclusion was looks matter a lot. Now I share that point of view and you call me hopeless?

Are you making fun of me right now or what?
Hmmmm, my take on it is that looks matter as long as all you want are meaningless sex flings but REAL PERSONALITY matters if you want a meaningful relationship. So your conclusion is only based on the kind pr associations YOU choose to have in your life
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Old Jun 21, 2021, 09:13 AM
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Hmmmm, my take on it is that looks matter as long as all you want are meaningless sex flings but REAL PERSONALITY matters if you want a meaningful relationship. So your conclusion is only based on the kind pr associations YOU choose to have in your life
Maybe, I never been comitted. But I bet having physically attractive partner doesn't hurt in the long term, right?
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Maybe, I never been comitted. But I bet having physically attractive partner doesn't hurt in the long term, right?
Doesn't really make a difference if the compatibility is there in the relationship with the partner
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I have no idea what you're talking about right now. When I was physically unnatractive I was doing not so well with women. When I shaped up and became attractive I had some spectacular results and mostly I was doing very well. The conclusion was looks matter a lot. Now I share that point of view and you call me hopeless?

Are you making fun of me right now or what?
No. I'm saying I think an attitude like yours where the belief system only includes one aspect of the whole is doomed to fail. The physical changes you have made are most definitely admirable. Perhaps you would benefit from doing the same with your overall outlook?

There are places/communities that are very accepting. They remain outside of society for that reason. Society is not accepting of anyone they don't understand. They are rejected as pariahs. But in my community, we have all kinds and it's a place where people don't care about looks and a quirky personality is a plus. It's the only place I feel safe besides home.
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Three of my friends found spouses on those "hook up sites". So... why "hook up sites"? Maybe it's different abroad, but in Poland people actually get to know each other on these sites, long-term.

My point is that, in my opinion, personality doesnt matter without at least decent looks. And I honestly believe that prettier people can get away with much more than less attractive folks. Also, I can't prove it based on my expierence, but I feel like many people would choose someone with worse personality if they were higher on the looks ladder. When things go south on the couple, physcial attraction is very often the only thing that keeps the two of them "hooked". I mean even on this forum in the "divorce" section we can find many broken marriages when one party says "but I'm still attracted to him". That proves my point.
If personality doesn’t matter without decent looks, then how are average and below average looking people ever get into relationships? By this logic they are doomed. But it simply isn’t the case. People of all kind of looks enjoy relationships. Plus looks are subjective. Who is going to be a judge of who looks good and decent? It’s very subjective and largely depends on cultural traditions

Tinder is largely a hook up casual encounter site in the US. I don’t know if it’s something different in Poland. You used example of Tinder and that’s the one I commented on.
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If personality doesn’t matter without decent looks, then how are average and below average looking people ever get into relationships? By this logic they are doomed. But it simply isn’t the case. People of all kind of looks enjoy relationships.
When did I say average/below average guys can't get girls? They can, of course. But it's sooo much harder.

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Plus looks are subjective. Who is going to be a judge of who looks good and decent?
It is subjective, but 9 out of 10 women will say he's a great looking guy:

Do you think looks are more important than personality when it comes to relationships

The jaw line, body fat, facial hair, hair, clothing, height, body type, etc... He may not be a perfect match for you, but you can tell he plays in the NFL of looks
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No. I'm saying I think an attitude like yours where the belief system only includes one aspect of the whole is doomed to fail. The physical changes you have made are most definitely admirable. Perhaps you would benefit from doing the same with your overall outlook?

There are places/communities that are very accepting. They remain outside of society for that reason. Society is not accepting of anyone they don't understand. They are rejected as pariahs. But in my community, we have all kinds and it's a place where people don't care about looks and a quirky personality is a plus. It's the only place I feel safe besides home.
Now I see where you come from. I got it.
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When did I say average/below average guys can't get girls? They can, of course. But it's sooo much harder.


It is subjective, but 9 out of 10 women will say he's a great looking guy:

Do you think looks are more important than personality when it comes to relationships

The jaw line, body fat, facial hair, hair, clothing, height, body type, etc... He may not be a perfect match for you, but you can tell he plays in the NFL of looks
See the guy pictured is not my type. Too hard looking for me. What you think is good looking isn’t necessarily what a woman sees as attractive. This guy looks angry to me and dull. No warmth IMO.
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Google pictures of Don Johnson. Most of his pictures show him smiling. And his body is not overly muscular but a more normal fit. Very expressive eyes and charismatic. I can’t post it from my phone. I think he is about 70 now and is still handsome.
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Google pictures of Don Johnson. Most of his pictures show him smiling. And his body is not overly muscular but a more normal fit. Very expressive eyes and charismatic. I can’t post it from my phone. I think he is about 70 now and is still handsome.
That's what I'm talking about. He was very fit while leading the Miami Vice. His eyes, hair, clothes.
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Yes he was good looking in the Miami Vice days when he was younger. But most of the time he is smiling. He doesn’t have excess muscles. The other guys you put up are too chiseled and hard looking. And the last one reminds me of Norman Bates in the movie psycho.

Another woman may have very different taste than me. Also nes preferences can change as they get older too.

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I also liked the younger Al Pachino. I am not a fan of facial hair.
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When did I say average/below average guys can't get girls? They can, of course. But it's sooo much harder.


It is subjective, but 9 out of 10 women will say he's a great looking guy:

Do you think looks are more important than personality when it comes to relationships

The jaw line, body fat, facial hair, hair, clothing, height, body type, etc... He may not be a perfect match for you, but you can tell he plays in the NFL of looks
But this isn’t a topic of discussion on this thread. Topic is if looks are more important in the relationship than personality.

And the answer is no, for most people this guy’s looks aren’t more important than his personality and if he doesn’t have nice personality it doesn’t matter if he is good looking or not.

Question is does this guy’s good looks (in your perception as it’s very subjective) more important than his personality when it comes to relationships.
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In all fairness to BigBubba at 26 his piers can actually still be shallow and all about looks still

That can be a difficult age imho.
Yeah, I've dated someone a year older than him when I was 31 and he was still pretty immature. (Yes, I know what you're thinking.)


I was just reading posts and I couldn't help but go back to the title: Do you think looks are more important than personality when it comes to relationships?

But some posts went like good looks attract more girls. There's a huge disconnect.
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Yeah, I've dated someone a year older than him when I was 31 and he was still pretty immature.
That was kinda my point. When it comes to my age immature fellows (men and women) looks are more important than you think (in relationships too).
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That was kinda my point. When it comes to my age immature fellows (men and women) looks are more important than you think (in relationships too).
Yeah, I don't disagree with you. There are relationships that are purely based on physical attraction.There are relationships that are about money. Some people won't care about looks if they are looking for money.

But you know, many of us here are not in our 20s, so we have a very different perspective of what the word "relationship" means. At my age, I'm not just looking for a trophy boyfriend to show off to everybody.
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But you know, many of us here are not in our 20s, so we have a very different perspective of what the word "relationship" means. At my age, I'm not just looking for a trophy boyfriend to show off to everybody.
I understand, but no one told me that younger users can't voice their opinions on the topic.
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