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Old Jun 01, 2022, 04:59 AM
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I think it’s rather interesting that even though he said he doesn’t care about you 6-7 times, told you to shut the f up and called you horrible names, you stayed on the phone. Honestly rather than focusing on why he was so nasty (no way to find an answer) maybe it’s time to focus on why would you stay on the phone with the person you don’t even know while they cuss you out, call you bad names and show total disregard for you. I think finding answers to why you have no self respect and allow such blatant disrespect rather than focusing on him.
Obviously he was angry, when people are angry they say all manner of things ( everyobody does, even me). In between he was normal at times again, believe it or not in between saying he doesn't care, he also said he does care. So i knew this was a guy was having some kind of a meltdown.
Given the history, I thought I would find out what was going on with him.
Anyway I have self respect thanks. Not like im going ahead and being with the guy.

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Old Jun 01, 2022, 05:23 AM
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Thank you on elaborating that.You do have an insight into why he snapped suddenly.I do agree with you.Something might be already brewing in his mind when you called three weeks ago.Can be work issue causing him stress and your statement sort of became the straw that broke the camel's back,so to speak.I am glad you are not upset.I wish you luck in finding the right guy so that you can move on.
Thanks. Yeah he always tells me he gets stressed as it is. Due to his job and other things on his plate. At the time he also had the covid virus and was isolating in his room.
Im sure that didnt help matters
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Old Jun 01, 2022, 08:21 AM
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Thanks. Yeah he always tells me he gets stressed as it is. Due to his job and other things on his plate. At the time he also had the covid virus and was isolating in his room.
Im sure that didnt help matters
Bananamist it is always good to understand the other side and why people may feel as they do but your last couple of posts come across to me like you may be excusing his outburst?

Yes we all feel anger at times, but how we talk to others when we experience these feelings is a choice. I share the concerns of others who question why you stayed on the line when he began to talk abusively towards you. It’s not normal behaviour to talk the way he did as an adult man. It’s not a sign of healthy relating.
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Old Jun 02, 2022, 06:13 AM
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I don't think you needed to apologize to him after he blew off your 4 phone calls. Why apologize, when he was the one dismissing and ignoring you? And he ignored your text after ignoring your 4 phone calls, explaining yourself. Yet, you persisted, and still contacted him two more times after that. That was your mistake. He sent a clear signal that he did not want to pursue things, yet you persisted and persisted, then it blew up. I would have walked away the moment he began blowing me off.
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Old Jun 02, 2022, 11:18 AM
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I don't think you needed to apologize to him after he blew off your 4 phone calls. Why apologize, when he was the one dismissing and ignoring you? And he ignored your text after ignoring your 4 phone calls, explaining yourself. Yet, you persisted, and still contacted him two more times after that. That was your mistake. He sent a clear signal that he did not want to pursue things, yet you persisted and persisted, then it blew up. I would have walked away the moment he began blowing me off.
I called him twice. I clarified again earlier. Not four times.
I only called because as i said, he left it upto me to pick a place for us to go. And following that
Nearly three weeks went by. As it was a long time I thought i would explain in a text that i was busy and other things came up.

In the past, its happened another time where he suggested a meerting and it didnt happen, because i hadnt met him due to lockdowns.
So for that reason i didnt want him thinking i was blowing him off all over again
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Old Jun 02, 2022, 11:53 AM
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So two and a half weeks after I called to arrange a proper time to meet and he completely ignored my calls and messages. I messaged on WhatsApp saying we should meet, he ignored. I called about four times, the last two calls it seemed like he purposely rejected them. I just thought at that point we'd been speaking for ages, and after not meeting for so long due to all the lockdowns, why not just actually get it done finally. I then texted apologising for the fact we didnt meet… Again i just got blanked.

Following that, I called after Christmas in Jan.

So two months later I call the guy again, don't ask why I bothered. But i wanted to know why he didn't open my whatsapp message. Found it weird.
Not to argue the point but in your original post you say you called him four times and he ignored all calls AND your following text message. Then you called again after Christmas, then again two months later. So you did not just call twice. I count 6-7 times.
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Old Jun 02, 2022, 12:27 PM
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The bottom line you do not know this guy. You don’t know if he had or didn’t have covid and what stress he had it even his living conditions or his life style. You know nothing about him. He is a stranger. Enduring abuse and name calling from a total stranger as well as repeatedly calling a total stranger who refuses to answer to you is totally unnecessary. Your willingness to accept abuse and mistreatment needs to be your focus, not he and his life. He isn’t important. You act as you are in a relationship with him so you have to figure him out, you have never met and aren’t in a relationship so figuring him out is an exercise in futility. You don’t know him. Understanding strangers is a waste of time. Try to understand yourself. I recommend therapy to help with that
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Old Jun 02, 2022, 01:36 PM
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Not to argue the point but in your original post you say you called him four times and he ignored all calls AND your following text message. Then you called again after Christmas, then again two months later. So you did not just call twice. I count 6-7 times.
When i said it was four times. I elaborated and corrected it. I called twice only. Once...and then once more.
I think what you're discounting is his behaviour.
He picks up the phone and speaks to me for 3/4 hours at a time.
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Old Jun 02, 2022, 01:39 PM
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The bottom line you do not know this guy. You don’t know if he had or didn’t have covid and what stress he had it even his living conditions or his life style. You know nothing about him. He is a stranger. Enduring abuse and name calling from a total stranger as well as repeatedly calling a total stranger who refuses to answer to you is totally unnecessary. Your willingness to accept abuse and mistreatment needs to be your focus, not he and his life. He isn’t important. You act as you are in a relationship with him so you have to figure him out, you have never met and aren’t in a relationship so figuring him out is an exercise in futility. You don’t know him. Understanding strangers is a waste of time. Try to understand yourself. I recommend therapy to help with that
I think I've repeated myself several times already.

The only time he was "abusive"... was the last time we spoke. I have not spoken to him since
My background and education is in mental health and psychology, therefore i automatically analyse behaviour. Its what i do.
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Old Jun 02, 2022, 01:58 PM
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I think I've repeated myself several times already.

The only time he was "abusive"... was the last time we spoke. I have not spoken to him since
My background and education is in mental health and psychology, therefore i automatically analyse behaviour. Its what i do.
What’s the point to analyze someone you’ve never met? You don’t know if he has a diagnosis or abusing drugs or is intoxicated or doing who knows what? What you are doing is a waste of time. If your background is in mental health and psychology then you should know that it’s pointless to analyze someone you've never met, it’s all a guessing game. No mental health professional would ever do that. I’d focus on yourself and people that you actually know irl.
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So two and a half weeks after I called to arrange a proper time to meet and he completely ignored my calls and messages. I messaged on WhatsApp saying we should meet, he ignored. I called about four times, the last two calls it seemed like he purposely rejected them. I just thought at that point we'd been speaking for ages, and after not meeting for so long due to all the lockdowns, why not just actually get it done finally. I then texted apologising for the fact we didnt meet straight after our videochat. I just assumed maybe he was annoyed or something. But i explained i wasnt well and a couple other reasons and just said it would be nice to meet finally. Again i just got blanked. Obviously after that I gave up. I tried my best.

Following that, I called after Christmas in Jan. A few months went by and I thought let me see if he gives me some kind of explanation for why he acted that way. See if he picks the phone at least and what hes been doing. I was honestly just curious as he's the one whos brought up meetings himself multiples times, even before the videochat, and when the opportunity presented itself, why did he flake.
It wss pointless in the end as he didnt mention one thing about it, acted totally normal. I was dumb enough to not directly ask him either 🤦*♀️. We spoke normally for two hours, both acted as if everything was good, he asked me what id been upto and that was that. He ended the convo said he had to go and do something for his sister so i assumed he would ring back as he said to give him two minutes. About half n hour later i whatsapped and said you must be busy tc. He didnt call back nor did he open the message i.e left it unread!!!! Two months went by and still it was unread. Strange.

So two months later I call the guy again, don't ask why I bothered. But i wanted to know why he didn't open my whatsapp message. .
So you keep telling posters in here that you only called him twice. But it’s not what happened. You texted that you want to meet, called him 4 times. He ignored your text and calls. Then time passed and you call him again. He did answer but then didn’t call back even though he said he would. You what’s upped him, he again ignored it. Two months later you call again. You can’t possibly say you do all that to analyze him. Or that you only called twice. It sounds like you very active pursued this guy. I really hope after last time when he was very rude, you stop calling him and analyzing him. You can’t successfully analyze someone you do not know
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Old Jun 02, 2022, 02:17 PM
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That’s exactly what the original post said. That she called four times, he ignored those calls, and then she texted and he ignored the text. Then she at Christmas called again and then again months later. I don’t see where this information was corrected in the thread.

OP, are you saying you didn’t call him four times and that he did not ignore those calls or your following text?
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That’s exactly what the original post said. That she called four times, he ignored those calls, and then she texted and he ignored the text. Then she at Christmas called again and then again months later. I don’t see where this information was corrected in the thread.
That’s exactly what it says. Plus ignored what’s up message.
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That’s exactly what the original post said. That she called four times, he ignored those calls, and then she texted and he ignored the text. Then she at Christmas called again and then again months later. I don’t see where this information was corrected in the thread.

OP, are you saying you didn’t call him four times and that he did not ignore those calls or your following text?
I called twice. After he told me he wants to meet. TWICE. Once and then once again.

After that we spoke twice. Both conversations were 2-3 hours long. The last conversation he was abusive.
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My original question was about him. Nothing to do with me.
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I find this thread rather interesting. I can't help but notice, how this all started with OP being confused and not understanding that guys blow up.And slowly progressed to OP explaining away( his feeling rejected or everyone has anger...)...so on and so forth.OP while disagreeing with some of the posters ,comes across as she already knew all answers.She says she has an insight into guys blow up in her posts( his ego being bruised and things like that).Did any one else notice she somewhat answered her own question?We responded depending on the info she told us.I think she does know the real reason to why that happened. I believe we donot have the entire picture .She even stated in a reply to me that she thinks guy is a complete sociopath.( Refer to post: 31.)

Now my question to banana mist is.....If you thought he was a sociopath, you definitely saw red flags all along. Did you? Then why call ,text or WhatsApp the guy ?Why did you kept communicating for so long? Why call him on the fateful day to follow up on that coffee date? It didn't make sense to me.If I were you I would run a mile from a sociopath and you were running towards him.Hmmmmmm. You many times contradicted your own statements.I also find it strange that you stayed long enough on the phone to hear a lot of derogatory terms hurled at you.Why????? Why not cut the call short and block his %&#.You said you have self respect in response to another poster.I would like to hear your definition of self respect.

And finally my suggestion,
When you are truly interested in a guy,meet him in person as soon as you are comfortable, so that you get to know him for real.Please donot waste years on strangers.

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Old Jun 02, 2022, 03:37 PM
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There are lots of contradictions going on. I don’t get it.
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Old Jun 02, 2022, 04:01 PM
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I find this thread rather interesting. I can't help but notice, how this all started with OP being confused and not understanding that guys blow up.And slowly progressed to OP explaining away( his feeling rejected or everyone has anger...)...so on and so forth.OP while disagreeing with some of the posters ,comes across as she already knew all answers.She says she has an insight into guys blow up in her posts.Did any one else notice she somewhat answered her own question?We responded depending on the info she told us.I think she does know the real reason to why that happened. I believe we donot have the entire picture .She even stated in a reply to me that she thinks guy is a complete sociopath.( Refer to post: 31.)

Now my question to banana mist is.....If you thought he was a sociopath, you definitely saw red flags all along. Did you? Then why call ,text or WhatsApp the guy ?Why did you kept communicating for so long? Why call him on the fateful day to follow up on that coffee date? It didn't make sense to me.If I were you I would run a mile from a sociopath and you were running towards him.Hmmmmmm. You many times contradicted your own statements.I also find it strange that you stayed long enough on the phone to hear a lot of derogatory terms hurled at you.Why????? Why not cut the call short and block his %&#.You said you have self respect in response to another poster.I would like to hear your definition of self respect.

And finally my suggestion,
When you are truly interested in a guy,meet him in person as soon as you are comfortable, so that you get to know him for real.Please donot waste years on strangers.
Well i had my suspicions but one can never be entirely sure. After all i didnt meet the guy. I could only speculate based on conversations and his overall behaviour. His intense blow up at the end came across like someone who has a narcissistic wound. But then again could simply be some kind of insecurity or blow to the ego he felt. There are plenty of reasons which could have resulted in him acting that way, those are only some of them.
For me it doesn't make sense that a guy will continue to show hes interested without actually being interested, and then retract without some thing else going on inside of him.
In the past people who i wasnt interested in and vice versa, we would have stopped speaking a long time before this certainly. There's no feasible way a normal person would have continued this length of time. Yes i understand towards the end he disappeared, but plenty of times before then we were in contact and he demonstratedt that he had an active interest in me
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If you’re confused it’s because you never met in person and he likely had other interests going on. He became uninterested and he made that evident.
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My original question was about him. Nothing to do with me.
No one can answer questions about him as neither you nor us on here know him or ever met him.

As about some of your questions. You are asking why he kept showing you he is interested if he wasn't. Well he wasn’t showing you that he’s interested at all. In fact he was showing you he’s not interested.

Perhaps he wasn’t direct but he was clear. He never called or messaged you except in the beginning (you said yourself you were the one initiating). It’s a clear evidence of lack of interest. He did answered two of your phone calls during one of which he was very rude.

Answering two of your calls does not indicate interest. He might be bored or if he had covid cooped up and didn’t mind chit chat.

He showed no interest except maybe in the beginning. But you can’t really expect people to keep interest going towards everyone they come across. Most people who use apps talk to a lot of people. He is likely dating. So people might talk to several candidates but then not pursue them, you kept calling him for a couple of years. It’s unlikely he never talked to another woman during all this. So why he lost interest is no way to know. Met someone else? Found other stuff to do? That’s just how it works. People can’t possibly be interested in everyone they talk to.

Of course he might be a sociopath. Or a drunk. Or married. No way to know. And why do you care?

If you are interested in dating why don’t you try to date other guys? Why fixate on this one?
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So banana mist, are you saying you had your suspicions of him being a sociopath all along,but wanted to be entirely sure that he indeed was one?? Well,then I guess your suspicion became evident .So why complain or analyze him further.Your question about him was( the starter of your thread) I donot understand his contempt towards me.Right?Now you say you had a suspicion which became true.Hmmmm.
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Well i had my suspicions but one can never be entirely sure. After all i didnt meet the guy. I could only speculate based on conversations and his overall behaviour. His intense blow up at the end came across like someone who has a narcissistic wound. But then again could simply be some kind of insecurity or blow to the ego he felt. There are plenty of reasons which could have resulted in him acting that way, those are only some of them.
For me it doesn't make sense that a guy will continue to show hes interested without actually being interested, and then retract without some thing else going on inside of him.
In the past people who i wasnt interested in and vice versa, we would have stopped speaking a long time before this certainly. There's no feasible way a normal person would have continued this length of time. Yes i understand towards the end he disappeared, but plenty of times before then we were in contact and he demonstratedt that he had an active interest in me
He had an interest. Maybe. And then he didn’t. That’s life. It’s been long enough. He moved on with his life. Why? No way to know. Why does it matter? Now if he was your actual significant other, it would be important to know why he lost interest. He isn’t your partner. You don’t know him. You’ll never get an answer to this question
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No one can answer questions about him as neither you nor us on here know him or ever met him.

As about some of your questions. You are asking why he kept showing you he is interested if he wasn't. Well he wasn’t showing you that he’s interested at all. In fact he was showing you he’s not interested.

Perhaps he wasn’t direct but he was clear. He never called or messaged you except in the beginning (you said yourself you were the one initiating). It’s a clear evidence of lack of interest. He did answered two of your phone calls during one of which he was very rude.

Answering two of your calls does not indicate interest. He might be bored or if he had covid cooped up and didn’t mind chit chat.

He showed no interest except maybe in the beginning. But you can’t really expect people to keep interest going towards everyone they come across. Most people who use apps talk to a lot of people. He is likely dating. So people might talk to several candidates but then not pursue them, you kept calling him for a couple of years. It’s unlikely he never talked to another woman during all this. So why he lost interest is no way to know. Met someone else? Found other stuff to do? That’s just how it works. People can’t possibly be interested in everyone they talk to.

Of course he might be a sociopath. Or a drunk. Or married. No way to know. And why do you care?

If you are interested in dating why don’t you try to date other guys? Why fixate on this one?
Well most of what i stated was what happened towards the very end. In between he was pretty forward on many occasions. Its just too long to go into all the conversations we had.

Anyway i am matching other guys on apps. Im already speaking to one now.
But im allowed to question someone if i want, there's no set rules as to how a person should respond to a particular situation.
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Dear banana mist,you sometimes say ,he behaved or talked in a way all along that you suspected him to be a sociopath. Just now in post 73,you replied to divine 1966,most of this happened towards the very end.You contradicted yourself again.If he behaved that way only at the end( the second half of last phone call),then calling him a sociopath??Do you realize how serious that term is ?
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Dear banana mist,you sometimes say ,he behaved or talked in a way all along that you suspected him to be a sociopath. Just now in post 73,you replied to divine 1966,most of this happened towards the very end.You contradicted yourself again.If he behaved that way only at the end( the second half of last phone call),then calling him a sociopath??Do you realize how serious that term is ?
She was saying i chased after the guy when he showed no interest the whole time. What i meant was he showed periods of liking me in between, lots of times. Only at the end he was more full on in terms of ignoring me. That's what i meant.
Obviously if he didn't reciprocate we wouldn't have spoken over a year.! It would have ended long ago.
The abuse and aggression i only witnessed in the last conversation.

Once i told him to stop playing games. And previous to that he was saying stuff like he'll assemble my wardrobe for me and the usual about how we should meet face to face. He responded immediately and asked me what it is i actually want after the games comment
I didn't reply for a whole day, then i responded eventually, then he started ignoring me again.
Anyway he was just weird.
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