I was driving today... and a thought just occured to me.. and now I cannot get it out of my mind..

First I want to say... this isn't to trigger off a "great" spirtual debate...

It is just something.. that bothers me ... now that I have thought about it... so.. if you would care to share your opinion.. I would appreciate it..

The way I view DID... it is a shattering of ones.. mind... like a mirror... shattering... all sizes.. shapes... and these shards represent the alters..

And.. I have always said.... "my soul is shattered".... so

now I am wondering.. in my spirtual sense.. is my soul... truely shattered too.. is it in bits.. and pieces.. and that is what God "sees"....all the "shards from the mirror that is now also my soul"..

And what does this mean?? to me within my faith.. does God "see" me as one person... or as several persons.. within one body...

Each.. alter has it's own personality... so is the whole held accountable.. or is the alter???? and if I have alters that work independently.. think indpendently... how can God hold me.. the whole of me.. accountable... if each and every alter is different.. and the "whole" does not have control of the outcome...

Do you understand???? I can't get this out of my mind...

[blah__x]

i honestly dont know freewill, but i dont think God would punish us for something we didnt mean to do..

[Pita]

Freewill, my friend, I think God sees you as his much beloved child.. It seems to me that the terrible things that happened that caused the mirror of your mind to shatter would just make God love all of you that much more fiercely. Children are precious to Him and He has to hurt to know what happened to you as a child. He would never "hold you accountable" for what your mind had to do to continue to allow your body and soul to exist. He has to be celebrating that you found a way to survive - even as He continues to grieve over your pain. Our soul has to be the sum of all of our parts and your soul, Freewill, is the loving, innocent, compassionate soul of a child.

[Perna]

I think God is at the "other" end (above?) and sees the whole and knows the whole story so each alter is not accountable, just the whole "intention". While personality/mind might be shattered, I don't believe one's soul can be.

[nothemama8]

IMHO God is all Loving, he knows all of us and Loves all of us, it is mankind that holds us accountable here on earth

Surely... though... there are alters that have different faiths... different levels of faith.. who have different value systems..

so if one alter does wrong.. and does not ask for forgiveness..

Is the "whole" or the other alters held accountable... if they have no knowledge...of what the one alter has done??

I guess.. I never thought about this.. and for me.. it is.. well... I don't know... ya know..

[nowheretorun]

err, uh, ... Gods healing makes whole... the splintered self is healed as a whole... despite what spiritual place each alter is in?

[(JD)]

God sees you as one soul. We often forget to remember that God's perspective is far more vast than ours, and isn't bound by OUR concept of the time/space continuum. I believe that the soul is created/implanted during the fertilization process; when a human is "one" with Him.

Only one aspect of you needs to accept God. Truly, if someone is segmented and that breaks apart the various capabilities of the mind there is no way that each aspect could fathom the concept of need or even of God, since each segment has a different purpose and capability, imo.

So.. do you think.. if some of my alters have accepted Jesus as the Savior and that he died on the cross for them..

but others that have not had the opportunity for the education to know this..

that God will accept.. that "I" know Jesus.. and was saved..

do you know what I mean??

Have never thought or worried about it before.. just hit me like a ton of bricks..

[I_WMD]

....... (((((((((( FREEWILL )))))))))))

( I have never came to this forum before ,, I saw our post as to soul/s/. )

Freewill,,,,, I read through the thread and as all are cool expressions of what if /// what might /// Or how /////////>>>Freewill ,, nowheretorun ,, with in words so easy it seemed as I do <<< You are made whole ,,,,,

I had this convo subject a short time ago ,,,, My thought is that when you were at your best is when you will be put back to. In my case I hope to be that little boy who played the violin and learned to help out in the kitchen and knew how to dust and SMILED. He was 8-9 yrs.

So Freewill Sorry to have posted so many words in your post ......But the title caught my eye ,,,,and I felt I hope no one minds .

[(JD)]

Yes, freewill.

For those with D.I.D., the psyche is what is segmented, not the body nor the soul. For all we know (and I believe He does) God still sees you as "whole" because our concept of time and of space is not what God sees and knows. Just because your thought processes and feelings and memories are divided up for coping doesn't mean that within your own brain/mind you are not whole.

I think it is truly mainly one aspect of any person that surrenders to God and accepts Christ.

[Gracey]

Hey Freewill. . .

Let me ask you this. In a family, is the whole family held accountable for one family member's sin? Jesus said that we must each work out OUR salvation; He never said anything about being held accountable for someone else's.

There are a lot of opinion's here about soul versus the mind and splitting. And it's good information, but in the grand scheme, it really doesn't matter. YOU accepted Christ as your Savior. If you die tomorrow, YOU will be with Him for eternity. Your salvation however, doesn't help your family. It's the same inside. . .at least that's what I believe. That's the way my "system" works. Each part works out their own relationship with Christ, in their own way. Just like I work out my relationship with Him, and I support my husband in his walk, but I can't make choices for him anymore than he can make for me. Likewise, I can't make a "part" do the right thing or do something wrong. I can offer support, guidance, etc.

such a beautiful thought.. thank you...

I would like to be put back to a time when I was a little girl about 8 years old... and I was in the field.. and the sun was shining.. and the grass very tall.. and I whirled around and around.. and fell in the grass... and just lay there... with the sun.. and the clouds.. and I felt "whole" for a few minutes...

Thank you..... it answers the question... that I was searching the answer for... in a beautiful way...

[blah__x]

((((((((( freewill )))))))))

[recluse1]

((((((((((freewill))))))))) i think the way gracey stated things makes perfect sense. i would say that i agree with her answer to the question. and i believe after getting to know you over time, you needn't worry. you are my sister in Christ and He loves you for the many wonderful things you do for others and the praise you give Him.

recluse1