[reddragon]

i am still here and still a problem, today was bad, actualy 2 days bad. the voices are realy strong.in public i caught myself arguing with some one(myself). the voices are getting worse

[ZilchHour]

Well I admit that I cannot understand your position as well as any other person since I do not have had such experience. I only wish you hope and strength and peace.

Regards
ZILCH HOUR

[spiritual_emergency]

Hello reddragon,
Do you know why the voices are getting worse? Do you feel it's safe for you to talk about what they've been saying?

~ Namaste

PS: New song today.

[SpottedOwl]

((reddragon))

Just wanted to send you my support. I'm sorry the last few days have been bad. My thoughts are with you.

I'm with Spiritual Emergency....you should try to explore it deeper if you feel comfortable doing so. Get to the root, and maybe some things will surface that you were not aware of.
I pray you are doing well today, and that it will pass soon.

Sincerely,

[kaytibear]

Hang in there. I hope you feel better soon

[reddragon]

ity for all support but i dont kno why the feelings and voices getting worse, trueth is i dream of and everyday i hear bad things, of late i want to end the voices, but i make myself find reasons not to. i have become more hostile lately and find it hard to calm myself, hard to explain online and hard to talk to anyone. we are alone now and ??

[iluzhyn]

Sorry to hear you have been feeling so bad lately. I can only speak from personal experience and have found things like taking a quiet walk in a park, prayer, meditation and spiritual reading have helped me when things get worse. Trying to avoid stressful situations and negative emotions (from myself and those around me) have also, at times, had a positive impact. Getting enough sleep has always been important as well; things seem to get much worse the more tired I become. Who knows..what helps one person may have no effect on someone else but it's just suggestions. Hope you get to feeling better. - iluzhyn

[spiritual_emergency]

reddragon: i dont kno why the feelings and voices getting worse...

Here's a few possibilities you could consider reddragon

- Stress: If people are feeling more stressed than usual sometimes they notice their voices becoming more active.

- Medication: If there has been a change to any medications you might be taking, sometimes this can have an effect on voice activity. For example, if people have been taking anti-psychotic medication and they come off suddenly, that can produce a relapse.

There may be other reasons that I'm not aware of but that's two possibilities.

i have become more hostile lately and find it hard to calm myself, hard to explain online and hard to talk to anyone.

You can always come and talk to the people here, reddragon. I wish you had some people in your face-to-face life you could talk to about these things as well. I know you've had difficulty trying to find some good doctors or other support people you could work with. I know too that you don't want to take medication or go to a hospital and that does often leave you trying to figure this out on your own.

You have to make your own choices of course but if you're feeling really desperate, maybe you could try talking to a doctor -- someone different that you haven't spoken with before. Sometimes it goes better with someone new. Some towns/cities have crisis hotlines you can call as well and just talking to someone on the phone might help you.

Some basic advice that may also be helpful is to try and ensure you get adequate sleep and meals. Also, make use of any calming techniques you've found to be helpful.

This link also has some information about coping with hearing voices. Maybe there'll be something there that will help you: intervoiceonline.org: Coping with Voices

I hope things get a bit easier for you, reddragon. In the interim, please take good care of yourself.

~ Namaste

[Nicole1975]

hang in there. these things don't last forever, at least not for me.

[MickG]

I find I tend to stay a bit secluded when I find myself “arguing amongst myself” but that’s alright. I do like to lead a quiet sort of life.

As for dreams…I do find myself often talking to them, the voices, in dreams. I was quite uneasy about it when it first happened but now I know I only have some control over my dreams and not full control. It’s sort of like in Rosemary’s Baby when she is overhearing conversations and translating them into her dreamstate. Perhaps if you were to write your dreams down when you wake you could then begin to take a more focused look at the dialogue in your dreams and sort of pull it apart from the other dream content. Then you may be able to make better sense of it. Just a thought.

Much peace.

[MickG]

Originally Posted by MickG

I find I tend to stay a bit secluded when I find myself “arguing amongst myself” but that’s alright. I do like to lead a quiet sort of life.

As for dreams…I do find myself often talking to them, the voices, in dreams. I was quite uneasy about it when it first happened but now I know I only have some control over my dreams and not full control. It’s sort of like in Rosemary’s Baby when she is overhearing conversations and translating them into her dreamstate. Perhaps if you were to write your dreams down when you wake you could then begin to take a more focused look at the dialogue in your dreams and sort of pull it apart from the other dream content. Then you may be able to make better sense of it. Just a thought.

Much peace.

Another note…

I apologize for my repeated nonsense but I do understand your anger. It is overwhelming isn’t it?! I mean to say every blasted day of every blasted month voices repeating over and over…think of them as a mother figure…nagging endlessly…good God! Shut up already!

Anyway, I think you know what I mean. The problem is you ARE stressed. Good God, if a human being were hounding or nagging you 24/7 you’d be at a breaking point so it stands to reason that you are at one now.

Enough already!

Tell the ethers or demons or angels to back the hell off. You are human…and that is a good thing. We can only stand so much.

Anyway, I’ve forgotten my point but I do know your family loves you and the ethers can stand a good kick in the hind end and come up saying, “He’s a fighter!”

[reddragon]

Originally Posted by spiritual_emergency

reddragon: i dont kno why the feelings and voices getting worse...

Here's a few possibilities you could consider reddragon

- Stress: If people are feeling more stressed than usual sometimes they notice their voices becoming more active.

- Medication: If there has been a change to any medications you might be taking, sometimes this can have an effect on voice activity. For example, if people have been taking anti-psychotic medication and they come off suddenly, that can produce a relapse.

There may be other reasons that I'm not aware of but that's two possibilities.

i have become more hostile lately and find it hard to calm myself, hard to explain online and hard to talk to anyone.

You can always come and talk to the people here, reddragon. I wish you had some people in your face-to-face life you could talk to about these things as well. I know you've had difficulty trying to find some good doctors or other support people you could work with. I know too that you don't want to take medication or go to a hospital and that does often leave you trying to figure this out on your own.

You have to make your own choices of course but if you're feeling really desperate, maybe you could try talking to a doctor -- someone different that you haven't spoken with before. Sometimes it goes better with someone new. Some towns/cities have crisis hotlines you can call as well and just talking to someone on the phone might help you.

Some basic advice that may also be helpful is to try and ensure you get adequate sleep and meals. Also, make use of any calming techniques you've found to be helpful.

This link also has some information about coping with hearing voices. Maybe there'll be something there that will help you: intervoiceonline.org: Coping with Voices

I hope things get a bit easier for you, reddragon. In the interim, please take good care of yourself.

~ Namaste

i tried the meds, remember? today i stopped myself from doing harm to someone that comes in everyday and i know he is not there most of the time, i know the problem but i understand and deal with it but today i started to snap, and,well he understood my point, he left and i did not follow, i wanted to do him harm and did not care about harm to me. i wont talk here because i dont want to set somone off, over the edge.

[ZilchHour]

“To be alone is to be different, to be different is to be alone.”

by Suzane Gordon

Regards
ZILCH HOUR

[spiritual_emergency]

reddragon: i tried the meds, remember?

Yes. And I know you felt they weren't helpful. If I do suggest meds it's because I know you've been coping with this for many years on your own and it becomes a burden. I suppose I like to think you might find a medication that helps you right away, without the side-effects you experienced before. That may be wishful thinking on my part. My own child was given a certain type of meds at one point too (anti-psychotics) and their experience of them were quite awful. However they then chose to use a different class of medication (anti-depressants) and they did identify those as helpful.

I respect your ability to make your own choices reddragon. I do know some meds can be horrible for people but I also know some people say that meds made a huge difference for them and really helped them. There are different meds people can try and if you've tried everything else, that always remains an option.

Nonetheless, if you're not comfortable using prescription medications, there are other tools people can use of course. Some people identify vitamin or other food supplements as helpful (i.e. Omega 3s). Some people use herbal medicines. Some people report relief with homeopathic remedies. There's also the option of orthomolecular approaches. You could probably find info on all of those via the internet.

Some people identify diet as crucial as well and will emphasize eating the healthiest diet possible. Some find it helpful to cut out milk and wheat products from their diet. If you wish to try that approach it might be helpful to talk with a nutritionist to ensure you're still getting adequate nutrients.

Here's some other things that may be helpful
- Regular physical exercise
- Walking a labyrinth
- Being in nature
- Engaging in simple, repetitive tasks
- Mindfulness meditation (or other forms of spiritual/religious practice)
- Caring for a pet
- Adequate rest
- Minimal stress
- Music (of course)

You might be able to think of other things as well.

Continued best wishes reddragon. I hope you're able to find some additional coping methods that might help reduce your overall stress.

~ Namaste

I line the one for caring for a pet SE.
I love it when my dogs are around me. They love to be around me too.
It really does help with stress.

[spiritual_emergency]

sardean: I love it when my dogs are around me. They love to be around me too. It really does help with stress.

We haven't had pets at home for a number of years but I do recall a time post crack-up... a friend's cat used to come sit on my lap and I found my stress levels would drop substantially just from stroking her fur, hearing her purr, and watching her silly cat antics. It's no wonder to me that so many people identify pets as being helpful.

[reddragon]

Originally Posted by MickG

I find I tend to stay a bit secluded when I find myself “arguing amongst myself” but that’s alright. I do like to lead a quiet sort of life.

As for dreams…I do find myself often talking to them, the voices, in dreams. I was quite uneasy about it when it first happened but now I know I only have some control over my dreams and not full control. It’s sort of like in Rosemary’s Baby when she is overhearing conversations and translating them into her dreamstate. Perhaps if you were to write your dreams down when you wake you could then begin to take a more focused look at the dialogue in your dreams and sort of pull it apart from the other dream content. Then you may be able to make better sense of it. Just a thought.

Much peace.

ty for your concern, the dreams are bad but worse at writing things down. i would pst them here but i dont wnat to bother and be a burden. i am in the proces of moving now so it will be harder now for both parts. shakes bad lately, in public also.hard to fight the voices lately

[reddragon]

Originally Posted by spiritual_emergency

sardean: I love it when my dogs are around me. They love to be around me too. It really does help with stress.

We haven't had pets at home for a number of years but I do recall a time post crack-up... a friend's cat used to come sit on my lap and I found my stress levels would drop substantially just from stroking her fur, hearing her purr, and watching her silly cat antics. It's no wonder to me that so many people identify pets as being helpful.

ty for new song, i am crying as i listen to it, i dont know why but tears are coming down a bit. wish i had con certs neare me of this kind. THANK YOU.

[reddragon]

Originally Posted by spiritual_emergency

sardean: I love it when my dogs are around me. They love to be around me too. It really does help with stress.

We haven't had pets at home for a number of years but I do recall a time post crack-up... a friend's cat used to come sit on my lap and I found my stress levels would drop substantially just from stroking her fur, hearing her purr, and watching her silly cat antics. It's no wonder to me that so many people identify pets as being helpful.

this lorenna person has a loving voice, TY

[spiritual_emergency]

reddragon: the dreams are bad but worse at writing things down. i would pst them here but i dont wnat to bother and be a burden.

If you change your mind, feel free to share. There might be others who could understand.

I hope your move goes smoothly. It could be that's part of what's contributing to your stress right now and you'll find it easier to move into calm space once you're settled into your new place.

Glad to know you've enjoyed the music.

~ Namaste

[reddragon]

i will, worried , to start , i dont know where to start.moving is not the hard part for me but not at once, hard now. had a fight today, i stoped my self from endinging someones life.hard to controll now, sorry

[reddragon]

[quote=spiritual_emergency;1190039]
reddragon: the dreams are bad but worse at writing things down. i would pst them here but i dont wnat to bother and be a burden.

If you change your mind, feel free to share. There might be others who could understand.

I hope your move goes smoothly. It could be that's part of what's contributing to your stress right now and you'll find it easier to move into calm space once you're settled into your new place.

Glad to know you've enjoyed the music.

~ Namaste
what was tis last one?comercial type, putting me down? what? humilate me make fun of me? ok some one will pay for this. FACT .trying to think now but hurt some one or make politicans secreats come out. i thought we were friends now i hit hard on real life to those that think they cant be touched
reap the world wind all, life and death is same in real life

[spiritual_emergency]

reddragon: what was tis last one?comercial type, putting me down? what? humilate me make fun of me?

Humilating or putting other people down isn't something I really like to do reddragon. Sometimes I do get angry or hurt and if that's the case I'll often let people know I'm angry or hurt and that I need some time by myself to think things through. Even then, I try not to put down other people.

Still, I can see that something has upset you. Can you explain to me what I did that you felt was a way of putting you down? Is it the different music? I like to listen to a lot of different songs. If I know it's a song you've liked, I'll often leave a link to that song on your profile so you can easily find it again. Earlier this evening I left a link on your profile to the Loreena McKennitt song you liked.

~ Namaste

[reddragon]

i am sorry, the songs were not ther only comercials.i took it as mocking me of type. sorry.