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Old May 18, 2012, 06:39 AM
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Nonsense! Sleep is healing. It's hugely important.

you sound like my father...

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My problem with getting the shots:

1. Limited choice of meds. With pills you have more options and can try different medications if the current one isn't good for you.

2. I'm really afraid that once they have that med in you, they won't be interested in getting you talk therapy. And that's what you really need, newtus. You need other people to connect with if you're going to heal. You're too isolated. Even a therapist and a case manager would be a good start.

If you're going to agree to the shots, you might as well take the pills IMO. There are other ways of forcing compliance than shots. Can you negotiate for some kind of monitoring? Having someone watch you take the pills and/or using a disc melt form?
you think i need a therapist?

yea im gonna see if i cant change **** around. i dont want that shot. humiliation is one...but...its like ..jail...and if theres anything i hate more..its enforcement. maybe ill negotiate...
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Old May 18, 2012, 06:40 AM
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Why would anyone send out a plane to turn your tv on?
its infrared
im able to turn a tv on with a remote from a totally different
type of electronic.
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Old May 18, 2012, 06:41 AM
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In my experience, both parents and doctors were much less likely to push the meds if I came up with some alternative plan.
I would tell them I don't like the meds and give some reasons - side-effects, mostly. Then I'd suggest something else, like 'Give me anti-depressants/anxiolytics and some talk therapy and if it doesn't help, we'll re-evaluate."
I had no intention of re-evaluating, but there were occasions where that approach kept me off drugs I didn't want.
It helps if you aren't talking about planes switching on your telly or whatever, though :-/
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Old May 18, 2012, 06:53 AM
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what do i say then? i mean..idk...
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Old May 18, 2012, 06:56 AM
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what do i say then? i mean..idk...
Well, what do you want? Do you want meds? Don't say you want meds to abuse. Do you want talk therapy? Do you want to meet other people in your situation? Do you want help to go to school? To find a job? IDK I can't help you sort what to say unless you tell me what you're looking for!
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Old May 18, 2012, 07:01 AM
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Ack, I hadn't realised the time. I'm sorry Newtus, but I have to head out to work now. Have a think about what you want from the appointment and don't be afraid to ask for it!! Best wishes
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Old May 18, 2012, 07:06 AM
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In my experience, both parents and doctors were much less likely to push the meds if I came up with some alternative plan.
Exactly! Don't just say, "I don't want those meds." Start taking care of yourself. Looking for alternatives. You probably aren't going to convince them that eating better, for example, will cure you. But if you start eating better - and doing other wellness things - and you actually get better, they'll leave you alone eventually.

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I had no intention of re-evaluating, but there were occasions where that approach kept me off drugs I didn't want.
I suspect newtus as already gained a reputation for noncompliance. If I were newtus, I think I'd pull myself together and go in there and say, "I'll take the meds, but I'd also like to be assigned a therapist and a case manager."

Then I'd start looking around for alternatives and put those into place in my life.

And I'd stop abusing all medications - prescription or OTC - because people will eventually notice and it will be taken as further evidence that I can't care for myself and need an external locus of control.

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It helps if you aren't talking about planes switching on your telly or whatever, though :-/
Yes. Don't talk about that stuff with them. Us, ok. Them, no.
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Old May 18, 2012, 07:13 AM
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...I suspect newtus as already gained a reputation for noncompliance....
hehe heeeh

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...And I'd stop abusing all medications - prescription or OTC - because people will eventually notice and it will be taken as further evidence that I can't care for myself and need an external locus of control...

Yes. Don't talk about that stuff with them. Us, ok. Them, no.


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what do i say then???

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Are you hoping they'll give you some Xanax and Ambien to abuse again?

i really have only done that twice in my life and once with those two. far and few the years in between. my pdoc dropped me and i left therapy i had hit a rock bottom. i really really need that stuff....
if i had ambien i couldve slept last night
but now ive been up for around 50 hours straight.
ive had sleeping problems since i was a little girl
its nothing new. its just a horrible horrible problem.
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Old May 18, 2012, 07:16 AM
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Old May 18, 2012, 07:19 AM
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Good luck to you newtus! I hope your appointment goes really well. I understand why you're worried, but I don't think it will be as bad as you're imagining. It could be a great chance to get some things that you need and want. I'll be thinking about you this morning!
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Old May 18, 2012, 07:29 AM
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Old May 18, 2012, 07:56 AM
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You can do it newtus! Let us all know how it goes when you get back.
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Old May 18, 2012, 08:44 AM
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Back. It was just intake and payment. The first of the stuff starts WEDNESDAY AT 8!!!!!! Ughhhhhhh. Then the third appt is doctor or whatever I need they said. Goddd fffffreakin waiting again...can't do this...no more waiting...
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Old May 18, 2012, 08:49 AM
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Aaaahhh! More waiting! BUT, the good news is, the process is started, and so far, so good.
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Old May 18, 2012, 09:33 AM
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This f**king sucks. I swear to god all this waiting...not even in the slightest kidding. I sit at home with nothing. Great now I can sit and also worry.

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Old May 18, 2012, 10:07 AM
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idk what to do right now
i just dont
another 5 days
i dont know what to do
i dont know what to do
i dont know what to do
jesus...i wanna cry...
im so scared. im so so so so so scared.
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Old May 18, 2012, 10:11 AM
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im reading wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Case_ma...mental_health)

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Case management is the coordination of community services for mental health patients by allocating a professional to be responsible for the assessment of need and implementation of care plans. It is usually required for individuals who have a serious mental illness and need ongoing support in areas such as housing, employment, social relationships, and community participation. This level of support is also suitable for service users with a major psychotic disorder.
i cant f**king wait all this time because f**king..i mean........what the F**KS gonna happen to me you know? like idk man. im so nervous.

HAHHAHAHAHAHAH DONT EXPECT SLEEP OUT OF ME
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Old May 18, 2012, 10:19 AM
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This f**king sucks. I swear to god all this waiting...not even in the slightest kidding. I sit at home with nothing. Great now I can sit and also worry.
Taking a risk can feel very uncomfortable. But you may get something good out of it. I think this is a good calculated risk which has a good chance of paying off for you. Just try to ride through the discomfort.

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Old May 18, 2012, 10:21 AM
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idk what to do right now
i just dont
another 5 days
i dont know what to do
i dont know what to do
i dont know what to do
jesus...i wanna cry...
im so scared. im so so so so so scared.
Deep breaths.
Exercise.
Distractions.
Study/read something that will make you focus your attention.

Right now is a good time to begin developing healthy coping skills.
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Old May 18, 2012, 10:24 AM
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Deep breaths.
Exercise.
Distractions.
Study/read something that will make you focus your attention.

Right now is a good time to begin developing healthy coping skills.
jesusssss
your starting to sound like the mom i never had.

ugh...
whats gonna happen to me?
what are they going to give me?
is there more info i can give you about me so i can predict what i am going to be given?
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Old May 18, 2012, 10:29 AM
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Most of my son's case managers have been caring people. Those experiences have been good.

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what the F**KS gonna happen to me you know? like idk man.
I think we all have that question - whether we have a psych dx or not. At least I do, but maybe I think too much for my own good.

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im so nervous.
Every time you say that I think about having blood drawn. I hate it, so when the technician is about to "do it," I look away and start talking to her about something else - anything else. It's called distraction.

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HAHHAHAHAHAHAH DONT EXPECT SLEEP OUT OF ME
I'll try not mention sleep to you for the next few weeks.

P.S. I had to take out two of your frowning faces to get past the censors. I needed to put in my wink and my hug.

P.P.S. I had to resist taking out another one of your frownies in order to add another smile after my P.S. lol...
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Old May 18, 2012, 10:34 AM
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whats gonna happen to me?
what are they going to give me?
is there more info i can give you about me so i can predict what i am going to be given?
I don't know for sure. I could guess, but I'm afraid if I do I'll guess wrong.

I think your imagination is worse than the reality of what will happen. Was today's appointment as bad as you imagined?
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Old May 18, 2012, 10:45 AM
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I think we all have that question - whether we have a psych dx or not
i quit worrying about that. with my history even my recent history i know i do. its just a matter of what exactly this time. im sure i can guess.

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I don't know for sure. I could guess, but I'm afraid if I do I'll guess wrong.

I think your imagination is worse than the reality of what will happen. Was today's appointment as bad as you imagined?
PLEASE help me..please...

it was because i was EXPECTING to be seen. and i wasnt
and it killed me inside so slowly i almost cried over there. i was like "no..god...no..just let the appt be soon again" im lucky its 5 days away. i have to goto their other branch or i would have had to wait 2-3 weeks.

please help me. please man. please.
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Old May 18, 2012, 10:47 AM
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ugh i know i sound so desperate. but im so scared. and i sit here 6 days out the week alone. i dont even leave my house. i do everything from online. i really dont leave the house that much.

let me see..to be more accurate. for example. i left the house 2 days this week. to goto the post office and grocery store. im not kidding.
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Old May 18, 2012, 10:56 AM
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It would be nice if they'd tell you what to expect at each appointment. Maybe they're not aware of how scared you are. Sometimes when people work in systems, they're so familiar with the process that they forget that newbies don't know the ropes and they feel scared and unsure of themselves.

Did they say what the appointment was for or who it was with?
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