Roll Call Take Two

Ah, I'm sorry to hear about your son. I hope he gets a way out.

I'm really sorry this happened to you.

One of those links I posted a few weeks ago (the one that had Elyn Saks and Fred Frese as panelists) was a Fred Friendly seminar. They gather a variety of experts on a topic and discuss it using hypotheticals as a vehicle for the conversation. One of the hypos on that program included exactly your scenario. A college-aged woman has been brought to the ER by her parents because she's manic and delusional. At some point she gets up and runs from the hospital. What happens? The panelists agree that in most ER's in the U.S. nothing would be done to stop her or to chase her. Refusing treatment and running out of the hospital isn't, in itself, sufficient reason to force treatment.

I remember the first time my son agreed to go to the hospital voluntarily. The mhc arranged for him to be transported to the hospital which is in another city. My son started to get on the bus. Then he noticed the other patient who was going and apparently didn't like his looks. So he told the driver he'd changed his mind and walked off. No one tried to stop him and no one called me to tell me he'd left (and he didn't have a car or cell phone). So... shrug. It's hard for me to imagine what happened to you happening here. Possibly it has. But it's really hard for me to imagine. Here, unless he'll admit to being an imminent danger to himself or others - and, of course, he's smart enough not to do that! - they'll let him leave, even if they have a pretty good idea he's suicidal.

Obvious signs of mental illness!

Thanks. We're working on it.

I think that's one of the better things about the US. You folks are really big on independence and personal liberty. It's different over here, I think. Much more of a communal outlook and I'm sure that's in part because our health care is single-payer.
Also, once you're in, you're really in. Once I got diagnosed, nothing I could do or say could convince them that I'm not mentally ill. I still get people who ask me if I need to "up my meds" just because I'm grumpy or unprepared or generally having a bad day. I mean, I did get forced treatment (some of the worst) in the US -- but that's because I was a 'non-compliant schizophrenic', I think. Also the drugs go a long way toward making a person look mentally ill. They really put you in a daze.

I need to work out how to get some insight - not sure how to do that though.

And Acosta sucks

I think the psychiatrist is going to have people watch me now that I yelled at him about being an incompetent, criminally abusive jerk.

This is one of my delusions, right?

I'm sorry your pdoc is more psychotic than you fish.

I'm glad things are going okay cos, even if they haven't been improving lately, at least it's somewhat stabilized

I'm here and okay. Can't sleep but sooo tired. And now my husband is in bed before me which makes it even harder. Maybe I'll just sleep on the couch tonight

Hi am new here ..though i would post here ..feeling okish at the moment , but last night forgot to take my medication so the voices are louder than normal
i have my psych this morning at 10.30 am kinda nervous about that

Yeah, right!

I hope they leave you alone, Fish.

Here, got all of 4 hours of sleep on the floor before the wake up call from my two year old came. I'm guessing he didn't sleep very well either because everything seems to warrant a tantrum. Thank God I have a doc and therapy appt to keep me occupied today.

Confused - I don't know WTF is going on.
I don't know what they are trying to do to me - just **** me up - then what?

Kureha - what is happening that is making you think they want to mess you up?
I'm really sorry upsetting things are happening.

Have to do list for today. Will try to get it all done.

Giving me things I don't need and forcing me to take it, I don't know why.

Woke up very depressed this morning. Back to work after three day weekend. I seriously have to make a change. I can't continue in this job.

Done! Now I just need to walk dogs. Feeling much better.

Here. No emotional state either way, just tired. Waiting for my microwave to make me a dinner.

I haven't really been about much, but is Newtus around? I haven't seen her in a few days and I was wondering how she's doing.

I noticed that too. I left her a visitor message. Hope all is well.
What is the microwave making you? I am waiting for my wife to get off work to start dinner.

I haven't heard from her. She hasn't posted in a few days. Hope she's okay.

It made me lentil daal and rice. What did you make in the end?

Yummy! I love lentils!
Haven't made anything yet. She had a meeting with her bosses she said would run late. She will call me when she leaves. I am planning on making pasta with broccoli rabe and chickpeas. Unless she asks for something else. I like cooking.

I hate cooking just for myself. I tend to eat a hell of a lot of lentils just because it's cheap and easy. I make enough for a week and then microwave them.

I've never known what broccoli rabe is, either?

I'm really weirded out by this "free time" thing I have now. It's like . . . I come home from work in the evenings, and I don't have to do anything other than what I want to do!! No revision! No worrying about exams! I don't know what to do with myself, so I bought some yarn to knit with. What shall I make?

Are you a good knitter? Maybe you should try making a whole blanket?
Broccoli rabe is bitter greens. But you parboil them before you cook them and it takes out the bitter. They're kinda nutty flavored to me.