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Old Jan 16, 2015, 01:43 PM
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I'm completely isolated so I feel left out. I just don't have anyone I see aside from my friend very rarely. I can't get out because of my back and I'm afraid of my symptoms being worse because of the isolation. I rely heavily on online interaction.

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Not everyone has these opportunities but I'm sure there is always peer support groups of which I guess online forums is one! I was relying on them for social contact outwith my parents until recently & when I was ill last time I was completely isolated so I know how it feels.

It definitely helps me to be able to talk freely here for one.

@ newtus - where meds aren't working & the side effects are bad then it's understandable you should turn elsewhere for coping strategies. That's not to say people on meds shouldn't though, meds are only part of the picture.

How many different meds have you tried out of interest?
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Old Jan 16, 2015, 01:47 PM
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I'm currently off medication and trying to stay so by having a healthy lifestyle and taking care of myself. That includes spending time with family and my bf regularly and also exercising and eating healthy. I've been off medication for a couple of months now and it's going well. I'm determined not to take it again and that I won't need it. I know it can be beneficial to people but I'm determined to not take it as I don't think I need it. Unless things start going downhill I'm not taking anything. There's a lot more to life than medication imo.
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Old Jan 16, 2015, 02:06 PM
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Anything really 'out there' that I've done over this time has been while on some kind of hypnotic drug. They really lower my inhibitions. I spoke to my doctor about it and he said that it was all me and the drugs didn't have any influence. There's an entire sub reddit dealing with peoples experiences on these drugs like ambien and zimovane, and those experiences are, well, mental! It did take me a while to realise that they where the cause because of my asshole doctors denial that drugs can have any negative effects. Even when I was having shakes in my eyes and my neck was jerking back he refused to take me off my depot or give me some sort of drug to counteract it. It was the reg that eventually gave me kemadrin to sort it out. They think everything they say is gospel and can't be wrong!
I'm not surprised by your experiences. Psychiatrists think they know best but in reality they don't really know a thing.

All the medications I was on during adolescence gave me psychiatric symptoms such as memory loss, suicidal thoughts and urges, somnolence and pseudo-seizures or twitching caused by low blood pressure. The perpetual state of somnolence I was in gave me hypnagogic hallucinations. All these symptoms were misinterpreted as signs of dissociation or micropsychosis related to BPD. I realized all this after I stopped the medication in 1998 and told psychiatry to F off. It was family and my desperation that got me to see the reality of my situation.

The medication induced psychotic symptoms were very different from the psychosis I experienced five years later. The doctors were too blind and stupid in 1998 to realize the drugs were causing symptoms and worsening my situation.

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Old Jan 16, 2015, 02:13 PM
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I'm completely isolated so I feel left out. I just don't have anyone I see aside from my friend very rarely. I can't get out because of my back and I'm afraid of my symptoms being worse because of the isolation. I rely heavily on online interaction.

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im mostly the same way. i mean the person i see daily is my dad and then maybe once a week (sometimes less) i see my mom and sister. my sister moved here for 5 months but i leaving again to move across the state because shes getting married so in a month i wont be seeing her weekly anymore.

i rely heavily on online interactions. but its something that...weirdly i guess...i look forward to everyday.

once a month ill prob have a short convo with my neighbors. and then on holidays i see a few more extended family members during the year.

as far as real life interactions its all about my family. and my sister being here is only a plus because after the first week of february ill only be seeing my mom about once a week.
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Left school early. Now I sleep until tomorrow take maybe the last amount of concerta prescribed and say to myself.. These might be the last few days I'll have it prescribed so I'll just enjoy being awake idk. Idk..

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Old Jan 16, 2015, 02:23 PM
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Not everyone has these opportunities but I'm sure there is always peer support groups of which I guess online forums is one! I was relying on them for social contact outwith my parents until recently & when I was ill last time I was completely isolated so I know how it feels.


It definitely helps me to be able to talk freely here for one.


@ newtus - where meds aren't working & the side effects are bad then it's understandable you should turn elsewhere for coping strategies. That's not to say people on meds shouldn't though, meds are only part of the picture.


How many different meds have you tried out of interest?

wow. tons. ive tried every typical antipsychotic except clorazil (i think thats a typical? idk). ive tried all atypical APs. ive been on 4-5 antidepressants including Prozac. ive been on an ADD/ADHD med. ive been lithium. ive been on all the major prescribed Anti-anxiety meds like klonopin and xanax and buspar and ativan.

hm i couldve missed some ive been on so many.
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Old Jan 16, 2015, 02:25 PM
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oh yea and obviously ambien. which is for sleep.
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Old Jan 16, 2015, 02:41 PM
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i couldnt have said it much more better myself. thats EXACTLY what im talking about. all the points you said were are right on to the point. the feeling socially connected whether its to family or any friends or even acquaintances you might have. being apart of the community - yes yes yes!!! and psychosocial activites do NOT only have to be apart of the mental health system like a Drop In center or something. its way so much more than that.

Psychosocial activities can be anything.

I like to go to activities that allow me to learn and create, and socialize at the same time. I do captioning and attend a beading group. They help me connect and work on my social skills. They also alleviate my sadness.


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i honestly believe that if more people with not just schizophrenia had better relationships (with fam or friends) and was apart of their community (doesnt have to be just about holding a job or going to school) they would either recover faster or have longer periods of remission than other people with mental illness who arent participating or getting a chance at psychosocial activities.


I often wonder if psychosis is a consequence of individualism, an effect of the western world.
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Old Jan 16, 2015, 02:41 PM
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wow. tons. ive tried every typical antipsychotic except clorazil (i think thats a typical? idk). ive tried all atypical APs. ive been on 4-5 antidepressants including Prozac. ive been on an ADD/ADHD med. ive been lithium. ive been on all the major prescribed Anti-anxiety meds like klonopin and xanax and buspar and ativan.

hm i couldve missed some ive been on so many.
Of the antipsychotic, I've been on most of the atypicals and 2 of the old typicals. I was not prescribed anything for sleep except trazodone recently. Usually if you're being prescribed benzos they don't like to prescribe the sleeping pills like ambien because they work on the same receptors.

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Old Jan 16, 2015, 02:46 PM
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That's a lot of meds newtus! I'm surprised they haven't tried you on Clozapine (Clorazil) since it's meant for people who are medication resitant. Have you been offered it?

I'm not saying you should btw, just curious... if you want to only use meds when you need, that's ok.
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Old Jan 16, 2015, 03:24 PM
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That's a lot of meds newtus! I'm surprised they haven't tried you on Clozapine (Clorazil) since it's meant for people who are medication resitant. Have you been offered it?


I'm not saying you should btw, just curious... if you want to only use meds when you need, that's ok.

when i was in the hospital last year they thought about trying it on me but i dont exactly remember why they ended up not doing it. my life with this system isnt over yet. they might want to put me on clozaril some day. they def want me back on injections with my doctor now. they keep mentioning it but i deny their "offer". more of a demand lol.
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I'm not surprised by your experiences. Psychiatrists think they know best but in reality they don't really know a thing.

All the medications I was on during adolescence gave me psychiatric symptoms such as memory loss, suicidal thoughts and urges, somnolence and pseudo-seizures or twitching caused by low blood pressure. The perpetual state of somnolence I was in gave me hypnagogic hallucinations. All these symptoms were misinterpreted as signs of dissociation or micropsychosis related to BPD. I realized all this after I stopped the medication in 1998 and told psychiatry to F off. It was family and my desperation that got me to see the reality of my situation.

The medication induced psychotic symptoms were very different from the psychosis I experienced five years later. The doctors were too blind and stupid in 1998 to realize the drugs were causing symptoms and worsening my situation.

Flee if it doesn't feel right. Run for your life!!!!!!!!
You're just describing what I'm going through to a tee! I went to these doctors a year and a half ago for help with some bad anxiety and slight social paranoia (low self esteem). A year and a half later of a mixture of meds I have dealt with suicidal thoughts and attempts, hallucinations (both auditory, hypnagogic and visual, severe paranoia and depression. Most of my symptoms and most of my 'episodes' have been psychiatric drug induced.

The only reason why I still see them is to get access to a psychologist. My problems have always been psychological, they just made me believe psychiatry could help me. I had a great productive life before I met them, I was working part time and in college doing something I loved, full time. Now I have nothing, I'm just lucky my fiancee is still here with me.
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Old Jan 16, 2015, 06:36 PM
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they just said on national news that to follow someone 24/7 - 7 days a week takes 20 agents.
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Old Jan 16, 2015, 06:50 PM
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so i heard on the news that a 17 year old boy in i think tampa was impersonating a doctor in a hospital. and he hasnt been charged yet but the mom said they he wasnt taking his medications that he was supposed to take. hm
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so i heard on the news that a 17 year old boy in i think tampa was impersonating a doctor in a hospital. and he hasnt been charged yet but the mom said they he wasnt taking his medications that he was supposed to take. hm
I saw that headline but I didn't read the story yet. Hm. It seems incredibly weird.
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I'm completely isolated so I feel left out. I just don't have anyone I see aside from my friend very rarely. I can't get out because of my back and I'm afraid of my symptoms being worse because of the isolation. I rely heavily on online interaction.

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Have you seen a doctor about your back? There are so many new treatments that may help you. Not moving is the worse thing you can do. You need to keep your muscles strong and active, so they don't atrophy.
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Old Jan 16, 2015, 08:02 PM
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im in this facebook group and someone posted they were in crisis or some suicidal post idk and a few people contacted random people on her friends list and one of them was her boss and she got fired for it. :/
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im in this facebook group and someone posted they were in crisis or some suicidal post idk and a few people contacted random people on her friends list and one of them was her boss and she got fired for it. :/
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Is that even legal?

idk. they supposedly said in their group rules/policy they are going to call authorities or whomever they can get ahold of if the person says a suicide threat.

i dont like that at all. especially if they are going to contact whomever they want on the persons friends list.
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Old Jan 17, 2015, 04:10 AM
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Morning roll call

I'm coming down with something AGAIN! Urgh, just got over my last cold properly & now I have a sore throat & am achy.

All good other than that though...
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Morning.. 2am for me.. I'm hearing a lot of voices every time i wake up which Is normal for just more. Weir really need to stop sleeping.. My mom forgot to buy the concerta sigh

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Old Jan 17, 2015, 04:59 AM
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10am here now...

My voices always tend to be worst waking up overnight too... although I doubt stopping sleeping would help.

Maybe it's for the best you aren't getting the concerta? I mean you'll be stopping using it soon right so... why not before you are forced to.
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Have you seen a doctor about your back? There are so many new treatments that may help you. Not moving is the worse thing you can do. You need to keep your muscles strong and active, so they don't atrophy.
The last time I saw anyone for my back they only suggested the steroid shots. I am trying to walk a little bit every day but it's very painful.
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