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I don't know if anybody else is up right now, but I'm just sitting here listening to Within Temptation. The singer's voice is so beautiful
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So I think my mom is really going to enjoy her Mother's day gift. She got two things early, the purse and the candle warmer. She really likes them. We're Italian so I bought her this really nice gift basket with Italian treats and stuff. She'll get that on Mothers Day, plus I'll be cooking something nice, whatever she wants for dinner that day
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Old Apr 25, 2015, 05:19 AM
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thats good opinions. haha but cant i get knowledge from an easy professor too? anyway i goto ratemyprofessor.com to check out my professors before i get in their class. not alwyas to check if their easy but other factors too like if they email back and stuff
You can get some knowledge of course but it's not the same as having someone who expects more from you and pushes you to do your best. That often gets perceived as hard by people with less interest in the field. But you should do what's best for you...
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Old Apr 25, 2015, 05:21 AM
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So I think my mom is really going to enjoy her Mother's day gift. She got two things early, the purse and the candle warmer. She really likes them. We're Italian so I bought her this really nice gift basket with Italian treats and stuff. She'll get that on Mothers Day, plus I'll be cooking something nice, whatever she wants for dinner that day
I got my mom some dragonfly earrings and two dozen mixed roses...she really likes both things and she is so easy to buy for unlike my dad.....
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Old Apr 25, 2015, 05:34 AM
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I don't know if anybody else is up right now, but I'm just sitting here listening to Within Temptation. The singer's voice is so beautiful

I'm listening to molly sandens freak.....it's about your inner voice....I don't feel that way anymore about myself but I've been there and I still think it's a Beautiful song although it could be triggering though for some...but I see it as rising up against that voice that can still crop up from time to time.

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I'm listening to molly sandens freak.....it's about your inner voice....I don't feel that way anymore about myself but I've been there and I still think it's a Beautiful song although it could be triggering though for some...but I see it as rising up against that voice that can still crop up from time to time.

Thanks for sharing, it's really good!
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It was 20C two days ago now it's snowing a lot. I woke up at noon but it was actually 7:30am. I thought that I already had my breakfast at "7:30am" but I didn't.

Huddled up in a cold bus stop box with people coughing.

Idek I'll try not to participate in this world wide slow suicide.
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Old Apr 25, 2015, 10:51 AM
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I don't know if anybody else is up right now, but I'm just sitting here listening to Within Temptation. The singer's voice is so beautiful
I adore Within Temptation, I like singing their songs... Her voice is right in my range.
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thanks ody and sp.

thats good opinions. haha but cant i get knowledge from an easy professor too? anyway i goto ratemyprofessor.com to check out my professors before i get in their class. not alwyas to check if their easy but other factors too like if they email back and stuff

my current professor hasnr emailed me back about my philosophy paper and i asked her for help on it.

the book doesnt say much about the materialist view on the mind/body relation and i can only use this book as reference so? idk what to. im just doing my best.
I'm biting my lip because philosophy of mind is my domain, and I am one of the few philosophers that and an inclination towards the minds existence. However, I remain ontologically (what has real existence) agnostic.

Does your book go to the history of the mind body problem? What main arguments does your book have for this topic? Maybe I can help you flesh them out with a wider perspective.

AI is ruthlessly materialistic.

I remember when I was at a conference and it was my time to speak, god I can word things so well. I was going against a materialistic peer. He has a solid argumenet. However, he was intimidated by my notes that I gave to him before the conference. That was fair game, it was a polite gesture on my behalf. I opened up my speech with" dualism is the belief, that amongst the flotsam and Jetsam of the vast material world, that there is something left over, namely mind." It was humble and elegant. God, I was sharp back then.

Does your it go into epiphenomenalism?

The mind is a mystery. It has a very long beard. I'm of the belief that it's uncrackable. Even if we create machines that a conscious we will step back, scratch our heads and wonder just how we did it.
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I'm biting my lip because philosophy of mind is my domain, and I am one of the few philosophers that and an inclination towards the minds existence. However, I remain ontologically (what has real existence) agnostic.

Does your book go to the history of the mind body problem? What main arguments does your book have for this topic? Maybe I can help you flesh them out with a wider perspective.

AI is ruthlessly materialistic.

I remember when I was at a conference and it was my time to speak, god I can word things so well. I was going against a materialistic peer. He has a solid argumenet. However, he was intimidated by my notes that I gave to him before the conference. That was fair game, it was a polite gesture on my behalf. I opened up my speech with" dualism is the belief, that amongst the flotsam and Jetsam of the vast material world, that there is something left over, namely mind." It was humble and elegant. God, I was sharp back then.

Does your it go into epiphenomenalism?

The mind is a mystery. It has a very long beard. I'm of the belief that it's uncrackable. Even if we create machines that a conscious we will step back, scratch our heads and wonder just how we did it.
i hope to be like you with words one day. i really do.

but no my book does go into "epiphenomenalism".
idk what that is. so no.

my book goes a few paragraphs very very very briefly into the materialist view. the dualist view. the mind/body identity theory. behaviorist view. the functionalist view. eliminative materialism. new dualism. and then it goes into the self and thats it. its very very very brief. with a few paragraphs for each theory. it only adds up to maybe 5 pages total for all those theories really.

it sucks but this is philosophy 101. so maybe thats why?
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Old Apr 25, 2015, 11:29 AM
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I took a peak at my weight on the scale this morning and it looks like I've lost a pound, official weekly weigh in date Monday
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Old Apr 25, 2015, 11:49 AM
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Don't worry you can trust Tweaky.

But ya it sucks.. Schizotypal disorder emphasized on that more than schizophrenia but I got a few people to trust me before I eventually break the communication due to paranoia and delusional thinking by "evidence". It doesn't matter how long you "trust" either. But people are different.

I talked to the therapists and told them that blind trust is the only trust and they gave me their perspective I forget what it was.
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i hope to be like you with words one day. i really do.

but no my book does go into "epiphenomenalism".
idk what that is. so no.

my book goes a few paragraphs very very very briefly into the materialist view. the dualist view. the mind/body identity theory. behaviorist view. the functionalist view. eliminative materialism. new dualism. and then it goes into the self and thats it. its very very very brief. with a few paragraphs for each theory. it only adds up to maybe 5 pages total for all those theories really.

it sucks but this is philosophy 101. so maybe thats why?
You're book is thick though. So it can be good to get an over all feel for the problems in philosophy.

Epiphenomalism is the view that we, machines, are made of material matter that moves much like a train, and consciousness is the steam that is created by that train. Epi means "to rise above" and many materialsts believe that consciousness arises from material things. It's a weird belief because it's dualism in disguise, because what is this steam made out of, what is this mind made of? Essentially it's saying, look we have material matter that we're composed up, and this immaterial stuff arises from matter, therefore it's matter bottom up. Weird!

Behaviorism is all about objectivity, and objectivity can be viewed with the eyes, therefore if it's viewable it matter. It only objectively studies what physical behavior occurs. It doesn't account for a mental reason why one has behaved in this or that way-- only that it occurred in such a matter. Psychology is moving away from behaviorism into a more complete umbrella, including cognitive science and also taking in to account social and psycho environments and thoughts or feelings.

For all behaviorism knows or cares to know is that your head is empty. It takes into account nothing that is mental. You are a materialist thing that behaves in such ways when it encounters this obstacle in front of you.

Eliminative materialism is cray cray. It wan'ts to take away all mental vocabulary like "ouch" or "I'm at awe". All subjective feelings are a result of chemicals in the brain and these words, such as "ouch" should be eliminated because they aren't objective science terms, and if it doesn't fit into this materialistic, scientific, objective, viewpoint then it doesn't exist. Consciousness is an illusion and we should say ouch in scientific terms, such as"C-Fibers are firing to my brain releasing such and such chemicals". This is Paul Churchland's view. Our vocabulary works just fine, and we do have subjective mental states because... I can say I subjectively feel them! Let's not throw a vaccularly that works.

He is essentially saying that science can supply all phenomenon, including delusional mental states. It's trying to box our humanity into science. It's science taken to it's final insane conclusion.

I'm at the library. The self is actually part of the book i'm suppose to be writing right now. I can ggloss over Thesues' ship that John Locke argues. The argument Hume gives. Daniel Robinson, one of my mentors talks about five the five different selves. William James, One of the most prolific psychologists and philsophers believes there are 3 kinds of selves. There is an pure ego, a material self and a spiritual self. The spiritual self being the most intimate of them all. Ill talk later. on the self. Sorry, I gab a lot when it comes to philosophy...
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Normal for me though not on coke or something.

Lol I look like a cartoon. The reactions when people see though xd

Idk if I can go through airport security like this.
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i got a 50 on my social/political philosophy test. i just could not do it. i took the whole time to do it. 20 questions in 30 minutes.
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Despite your absence it was still able to trot on. There was about ten of us and we discussed figuring out or triggers, first warning signs, reaching out, how important it is to having a therapist and a psychiatrist, suicide hotline or text line, and finally hospitalization. We also discussed other topics. You're always invited, Door!
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Despite your absence it was still able to trot on. There was about ten of us and we discussed figuring out or triggers, first warning signs, reaching out, how important it is to having a therapist and a psychiatrist, suicide hotline or text line, and finally hospitalization. We also discussed other topics. You're always invited, Door!
I have been skipping the chats because the quickly rolling texts get me dizzy on my phone. Sorry.
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