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Old Apr 24, 2024, 05:16 PM
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I too do better on less medication. Now in the twilight years I’m on mono therapy for the bipolar, just latuda. But several for sleep issues. A combination of otc and prescription.

I slept great last night. I took an extra ambian but maybe I didn’t need it? The night was cold. Only 63 F when I went to bed. It was glorious. Maybe not square peg guys 40’s but cool enough for me. I loved it. I slept so well I had to rush to get ready for my hour drive to Rochester for my dental appointment. I’ve also quit the pain meds. Didn’t take any yesterday and I think it helped me sleep better too. But in my rushing about I didn’t get to reflect on my dreams so they were forgotten.
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Old Apr 24, 2024, 11:58 PM
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But in my rushing about I didn’t get to reflect on my dreams so they were forgotten.
Isn't it weird how when you wake up, the dream you have just had seems so vivid, unique, and memorable, and then several hours later it is completely gone if you do not record it?!
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Old Apr 25, 2024, 12:51 AM
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going to bed at 11PM tonight. tomorrow, the first meeting is at 8AM and I need to prep before it. So, must be up at 7.
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Old Apr 25, 2024, 08:26 AM
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Isn't it weird how when you wake up, the dream you have just had seems so vivid, unique, and memorable, and then several hours later it is completely gone if you do not record it?!
Yes. They are so vivid and of such a wondrous quality it’s disappointing when they disappear.
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Old Apr 25, 2024, 04:40 PM
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I had the weirdest experience.

I slept well, waking up twice to pee which is typical and going back to bed. Woke up, thinking it was for the whole day ahead, at about 6:45 AM. Was hungry so ate instead of doing dental hygiene. Then realized I still was sleepy so took a short nap, setting the alarm to 7:45AM to make it to my 8AM meeting virtually. TWoke up with the alarm but was tired, even though Oura registered a high score of 80 for sleep and even 88 for readiness, out of 100. I took Ritalin.

Was falling asleep during that meeting, and since I was only an optional invitee, excused myself and dropped off about after about 20 minutes. Took another nap and at 8:50 AM realized that the inside of my head was spinning, a side effect of Ritalin that I had experienced before once after taking a double dose. It was spinning so bad that attempts to get up from the bed were fruitless. It was getting to the point of my being a fall risk. I then sent a message saying that I would not be able to make it to my 9AM meeting and asked to record it for me. Also said that I would later share my updates planned for that meeting in messaging. And, fell asleep.

Woke up at 11:30 AM. Still dizzy. Waited until I was able to get up from the bed. Still somewhat dizzy but not a fall risk anymore.

Since then, I have been gradually getting back to normal and from now till the evening I will work to catch up with everything I missed at work.

This is very disappointing: Ritalin did not produce the desired effect and instead produced an adverse effect.

Somehow it is difficult to win this game.
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Old Apr 25, 2024, 09:01 PM
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I've been getting at least 7 hours of CPAP time since my previous check in, usually 8 or more hours.

I have an appointment to pick up a new machine next week.

Some dreams stay with me all day or longer; they fade very gradually. I'm sure I don't remember most of them.

I'll be in bed by 10:15 tonight. We're expecting below freezing temps, and some windows are still open even now. (But I'll close them soon.) I'm looking forward to a nice deep sleep, although the waning gibbous moon might interfere.

I'm glad all of you are still posting, and I hope you have the RItalin figured out, TCJ!
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Old Apr 25, 2024, 09:15 PM
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gibbous moon, another new term I have just learned! I look up how to pronounce it, too.
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Old Apr 25, 2024, 09:33 PM
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Slept pretty good last night and had a good workout at the gym, so I should be getting sleepy soon. Stopping my morning meds has turned out to be the best thing so far - the daytime drowsiness has mostly disappeared. Glad to see everyone posting and keeping up with this thread. My dreams disappear as soon as I wake up, sometimes even as vivid as they are.

Tonight going to be at 11pm - the CPAP recorded 7 hours and 30 minutes of sleep last night.
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Old Apr 26, 2024, 03:56 PM
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Today I am doing just fine on Ritalin. I took it in the morning on an empty stomach, waited for a long time (more than 45 mins) afterwards before having a latte, and am having a good day.
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Old Apr 27, 2024, 01:08 AM
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Going to bed now, shortly after 11PM.

I had a good day after taking Ritalin on an empty stomach this morning. I worked productively and then I had two workouts.
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Old Apr 27, 2024, 09:57 AM
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The night before last I was forced to shut my windows because it was raining. It got much too hot. And I couldn’t sleep. So last night despite the theat of more rain I cracked them open hoping that if it did rain the wind wouldn’t come in. I slept pretty well. Woke too early. Was dreaming of potatoes! Making hash browns.but curiously I’m not at all hungry.
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Old Apr 27, 2024, 12:27 PM
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When I was a child, sleeping in my grandparents' country house when it was raining outside was a distinct pleasure. I thought that that was the best sleep.
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Old Apr 27, 2024, 12:28 PM
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I had enough sleep, finally getting up a 9:30AM (but I had a period of time around 5AM when I had to eat because I was hungry and then I was messaging my friend in Germany for awhile). I won't need Ritalin today.
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Old Apr 27, 2024, 09:11 PM
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Been sleeping around 6 hours per night - wonder if I am getting manic, a little worried, but I think I will be alright.

Hope to get a full 8 hours tonight - going to bed at 11pm.
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Old Apr 27, 2024, 09:47 PM
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Yesterday (Friday) was a WFH (Work From Home) day for me, and I was so exhausted that I needed a nap afterward. Then I went to bed at about 7:30pm. I got up at 4:30am to pee and start the dishwasher. But then the cats started to prowl (thinking it was time for breakfast) so I spent about a half hour feeding them. Then I peed again and went back to bed and got up for good at 7:15am.

I could've done the same today (although it's not a work day), but I'm still awake. I'll try to be in bed by 11.
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Old Apr 28, 2024, 08:18 PM
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Slept really horribly last night. Even with my CPAP machine, I kept seeing the little Zuni doll from Trilogy of Terror from Svengoolie last night. Even though he was cracking a lot of jokes about it, it still bothered me a lot. Slept maybe 4 hours and missed church and going to see my parents - felt awful.

Managed to salvage the day though and going to try to go to bed at 11pm.
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Old May 01, 2024, 11:21 PM
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Two nights ago, horrible sleep. Just horrible.

Then yesterday I realized that my window in the bedroom was closed. Normally it is open round the clock, but I was WFH due to hurt foot, needed to do a Zoom meeting and closed all windows to block the noise from leafblowers outside. And then forgot to open the windows again.

Once I caught myself, I opened the window and last night almost slept through the night. It was amazing.
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Old May 04, 2024, 02:58 PM
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I got my new CPAP machine yesterday and was fitted with a smaller mask.

This was the best mask fit I've ever had. When I started it up there were absolutely no leaks that I could feel. Yet this morning's report indicated leaks, and I felt just as tired as usual.

Anyway I've been getting to bed before 11pm (usually from 10:15 to 10:45) and getting up at around 6 to 6:30am. When I get home, I feel that I could collapse into bed and sleep for several hours. But I stay up to do cores and keep my wife some company.
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Had a really good day today. Going to bed at 11:30 PM having flossed, scraped my tongue and brushed. For me this is hopefully the beginning of a new good habit.
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Old May 06, 2024, 08:57 PM
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I'm aiming for a 10:15 bedtime tonight.

I woke up at 3:30am today, and was very alert. But eventually I fell back asleep and finally got up at about 6.

If I awaken after 6 hours again tomorrow, I might get up -- maybe I need only 6 hours sleep if the apnea is well-controlled.
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Old May 07, 2024, 12:11 AM
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A streak of good nights for me when I actually wind down before bedtime. Will do the same tonight. It is so rewarding. And yes, floss/scrape tongue/brush before bedtime feels very pleasant.

What happens then to me is that I wake up at 5AM hungry. I no longer fight it. I get up, have breakfast and either work until I am sleepy and then go to bed or go back to bed right away.

My pdoc agrees that this is far better than waking up at 3AM hungry. At 5AM, it is like having a very early breakfast. At 3AM, it is completely abnormal.
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Old May 15, 2024, 08:38 PM
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I'm glad that you're improving, @Tart Cherry Jam!

I've been pushing through the tiredness I feel in the early evening, getting a "second wind" and then going to bed later than usual, like at 11pm. Then, I might wake up alert at about 5am and either get up, or get another 90 minutes of sleep and get up at 6:30am. I seem to do well either way. Six or 7.5 hours of sleep seem right.

CPAP-wise, the new mask fits better, too, and the new machine has upgraded algorithms that seem to make exhaling a little easier. It also has an auto-start mode -- it starts up whenever I put the mask on and start breathing. This is helpful on the days when I sleep on the other side of the bed.

Hope all of you folks are practicing good sleep hygiene!
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Old May 15, 2024, 08:47 PM
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I had a bad night last night. I went to bed on time but ended up reading past my usual shut off time and thus stayed awake past the effectiveness of the meds and couldn’t get to sleep.

I felt subpar all day and opted out of the poker night and instead took a shower and relaxed with mind numbing tv. Plan to hit the hay early tonight.
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Old May 16, 2024, 01:02 AM
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I am going to be away until the end of the month. Looking forward to catching up then!
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Old Jun 29, 2024, 09:23 PM
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Just wanted to resurrect this thread and see how everyone has been doing. My sleep has been rough. Only been averaging about 4-5 hours even with the CPAP machine. I think reducing my morning meds and just taking night meds has affected that. Been worried about mania, but I think I am in good shape so far. Hope everyone has been well!!
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