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Old Jan 12, 2010, 10:03 PM
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Thank you for your kind words.

Life can indeed be good without him!

There is some basic information about psychotherapy here:

http://psychcentral.com/psychotherapy/

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he did something to my mind, like he got in there and took control of my thinking. Now my job is to undo all that stuff.
A good psychotherapist perhaps could help with this.

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Old Jan 14, 2010, 03:05 PM
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I feel I can hang on to my fantasy of him being the charming, articulate, and handsome prince of my dreams

I don't really love him but I love what I would like him to be.
This is good info. What keeps you from really finding a man of your dreams? Why do you have to settle for trying to make this one into something that he is definitely not?
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Old Jan 14, 2010, 11:28 PM
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Okay, can anyone believe this? The same ex who just recently told me if I don't go back to him, I might find him dead in his apartment, and told me how he has had fantasies of he and I dying together today said he is perfect, he's not like other "sniffling and humble human beings," and that he's not going to bow down to any kind of god or higher power because he is equal to god. He said he has reached spiritual perfection. The problem is he believes this stuff. He's on medication for bipolar disorder. Why is he still talking this way? It doesn't make sense.
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Old Jan 15, 2010, 01:06 AM
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Sorry I could not help you peacequest...I Thought Dr. Hare's website would help. Since there is no cure and there is treatment for psychopathy, drugs are not effective. Maybe you were misinformed. I reread your post...it is virtually impossible to be a Psychopath and have bipolar disorder. In order to have bipolar, you have to have feelings. Psychopaths have no coscience, no heart, and no empathy. You know that if you hook him up to a lie detecter test, his brain waves would not even register as human?
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Old Jan 15, 2010, 01:14 AM
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It doesn't make sense.
No it doesn't make sense.

I spent a long, long time trying to make sense of a boyfriend that was at times wonderful and loving and at times abusive and scary.

The relationship is over. He is dead. I have been in therapy for years and you know what? It still doesn't make sense to me.

Try to do what your logical brain tells you. You are posting an awareness of what is unacceptable behavior. But feelings get intertwined and creates doubt.

Are you currently in therapy?
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Old Jan 15, 2010, 01:17 AM
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I believe Bill's comment is right on the button - sometimes you need to just walk away - even if it hurts and you feel conflicted about it -
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Old Jan 15, 2010, 03:21 AM
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A person cannot both be bipolar and a psychopath. Psychopaths do not respond to medication...there is no treatment and there is no cure. Might I suggest you goggle psychopaths? Do the research and read everything you can for your own sake. This is all the support I have to offer you. Good luck to you.
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Old Jan 15, 2010, 08:52 AM
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Why is he still talking this way? It doesn't make sense.
And why should you spend your life trying to figure this out??? You are really stuck here PQ. This man is a path to pain, madness, mental illness, chaos, trouble, problems, and on and on and you are sitting here waiting for you next serving?????
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Old Jan 15, 2010, 09:37 AM
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You must not believe/feel that you deserve anything better than him? And having him is better than being alone?
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Old Jan 31, 2010, 09:21 PM
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Okay, I've posted before about my ex husband from whom I've been divorced three years. He has three domestic violence felonies, has been in jail three times and now after his last stint in jail two years ago, he wants to reconcile with me. This is the problem: I feel guilty that he's lost everything, our marriage, his job, and his social standing. His own family won't have anything to do with him.

When he was indicted for domestic violence this last time around, he tried getting aquitted by pleading mental illness. He's extensively researched PTSD, bipolar illness, and anxiety disorder as well as some other conditions and then proceeded to demonstrate the symptoms of these disorders. I believe he has fooled the mental health care professionals, but not the court. He still had to do go to jail for his violence toward me.

But now that he's free, he went to social security with his newly documented mental illness and has successfully gotten himself on social security disability. He hasn't worked in three years, lives in a free apartment provided for him by community mental health while working under the table for an auto shop. So I know he is able to work. Meanwhile, I am working my butt off as a substitute teacher trying to make ends meet. At sixty-five, I am ten years older than he and have the sole responsibility of taking care of myself financially. While most people my age are retiring, I have to continue working to keep a roof over my head. I believe he wants to come back to me primarily, not because he loves me, because he doesn't want to work and he could slip right back into a comfortable life with me taking care of him.

It seems he's turned the table by making himself out to be the victim who only beat up on me because he had PTSD and bipolar illness. He doesn't want to even address how he's hurt me, and how to this day I still have flashbacks to his violence against me as well as my family. Yet, I can't seem to say goodbye to him. I still have a strong attachment to him and feel as though I should make his life all right again--despite him being the one who violated me with his physical abuse.

If I tell him, I may not want to reconcile with him because of everything that happened, he begins to cry or get angry and tells me I'm mean and cold like everyone else who turned their back on him.

Am I wrong in thinking that he may really not be mentally ill and just using the symptoms of mental illness to avoid being financially responsible? Is it reasonable for me to expect him to at least look for a job if he wants to reconcile with me, or am I not sympathetic to a man who really has mental problems, and if so, should I stand by my man because he is sick?

It just seems to me he's manipulating me to get sympathy so I will make his life easier? He probably does have some kind of love for me, but the sixteen years we were married he did nothing but physically and emotional abuse me as well as my children.

Why can't I break away from the man who hurt my family and me so badly? The guilt and loneliness I feel is killing me.
I think you do know what to do but you still have a co-dependant attachment to him or have not yet recovered your self-esteem and self-worth from the abusive relationship.

Whether or not he is mentally ill is not the issue. The issue is that he seems to be unwilling or unable to take responsibility for himself, his illness and his abuse. He appears to be narcissistic as well as abusive and dangerous.

Do not allow this man to manipulate you into taking him back. You deserve to have a life free of fear, abuse and aggression.

He has not shown any signs that he is sorry for the way he treated you and your family, and has not tried to help you financially or emotionally.

You must read about BiPolar Disorder in Men as well as Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Once you understand these illnesses, you will see how taking him back would be self-destructive for you.

You come first. Move on with your life and get some counseling or support through a self-help group like Al-Anon or a Bi-Polar Family support group.
Good luck.
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Old Feb 01, 2010, 12:22 AM
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How are you doing, peacequest?
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Old Feb 05, 2010, 07:12 PM
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My dear. I am so sorry for the way you feel, what you suffered and the state of mind which keeps you away from the happiness you deserve.

I know only too well how it feels. I dressed things up, I hung onto the dream. I also gave excuses while all the time knowing and saying that this behaviour is unacceptable.

I decided to leave. Break all conact. Its the only way for me.

I take one day at a time. Its hard but I reward myself for each day I spend without him.

I very much think that this kind of relationship is an addiction on many levels. The habit becomes and addiction. And like a reabilitation programme you need to build a programme to recover. Its hard to do this alone. Find a good support group. You will also learn, hopefully, to trust again. And to break the co-dependency.

You deserve so much more. You deserve happiness and love and respect. Someone who will be kind and gentle with you. And you know, sometimes walking away is first best thing you can do for yourself.

Like others said, you are not responsible for him. He is a mess and as long as he is in your life you are too. Please be safe.

You know, maybe a lot of therapists would not agree with me but, I believe that sometimes you just have to do. Not think. Not feel. Just do. Then after you have taken the step - you can handle the emotions. One step at a time.

I am thinking of you xx
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Old Feb 06, 2010, 03:38 PM
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PQ,
If you truly value your own life and your children's you will RUN not walk away from this man, he is very very disturbed and you WILL end up DEAD, or in intensive care if you continue to entertain the idea of going back to him. He is stalking and overpowering you with the guilt trip. He will NEVER change, and you are taking your own life in your hands by being around this terribly sick man. Take it from someone who has been there. I left my country for fear of my abuser. He will NOT stop until he has you. You are worthy of being loved by someone kind and caring and love. This is NOT love with this man. I hope you can get some help to wipe your hands of him. It's not your place to feel sorry for him.
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Old Feb 08, 2010, 06:15 PM
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Also - remember that he is responsible for himself. Not you. His actions made him loose everything. Its not your role to save / look after or take care of him. Hope you are ok today xx
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Old Feb 09, 2010, 08:07 PM
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Peacequest,

Have you had the strength to not talk to him. Has he stayed away from you? are you keeping busy.
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Old Feb 25, 2010, 05:28 PM
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