Disclosure

Victims of any type of abuse should think long and hard before posting about it in any type of forum or online communication (i.e. exchanging emails or private message) exposing such painful events.

Pedophiles and the like read these posts and feed off of these types of forums and they will reap their reward soon.

One last time, Pedophiles and other perpetrators of foul vileness toward humanity are reading online in these types of spaces. They read everything we share with each other. They receive a twisted pleasure from watching us cry out in pain. They can follow us to other places online and off to finish the job of killing a human soul that they started in the beginning. Don't give them the satifaction.

Your days are numbered, vileness.

Isn't there anyplace safe.

Not in these types of spaces. They feed off of watching the result of the same vileness they placed upon their own victims.

I found private journalling to be the very best place to document my thoughts and experiences though one should keep those records safe.

Once you share your story with the world it is online forever somewhere like a photograph given away to the world with good intention while others with foul intention will use it for pure evil.

I hate that vile inhuman filth with a passion. If I could take the burn of passion in my heart and light the flames of hell with it for every last one of them I would.

Keep your pain close to you. It is part of who you are.

I wish you peace.

I feel that is silencing those that do not need to be silenced! Psych Central is a safe place, there are no peadophiles here. Please don't scare monger.

Silence no more!

What they want is to shut us up, MickG. Try to be courageous. What they read can't hurt us.

We don't cry out in pain to them but for support from loving, caring people here and elsewhere, who they kept us from telling in the first place. My Pain is a part and is grateful for my telling as it was too much to carry alone.

Here, we are not alone and the help here is greater than the fear of them reading and getting more of their sick needs met. If you want to you can send a personal message to people so it needn't be public. I find some peace know that more than one responder can support me here. I don't like to burden just one person and I know that I will have a few and sometimes many supporters who I never was allowed to have growing up. People here on PC do 'get it', MickG. I hope you will be able to reach out for your needs and not be stifled by them anymore. There are many ways to receive support, maybe in chat too.

By the way the inferno is a sealed fate for them in their darkness. It is only if they seek and find the light, without getting tons of help, that we have to worry about them being half-healed, in my opinion.

Declare it MickG! It will be frightening and can be freeing after a while!

Hunny

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Well if there ARE any abusers reading this: I'm telling yall where you can stick it...

Mike makes a good point and is just concerned for the victims here at PC and he has a passionate dislike for these criminals. I also agree we don't want to scare people. I can understand both sides.

I wrote a thread about William Dinkel(you can google his name), who for years surfed less secure sites(not PC) for people seeking info on how to kill themselves. I know it's hard to believe but there are sites that allow people to talk about this. Anyways he pretended to be a vulnerable depressed woman and befriended these people. When I wrote the thread he hadn't be officially charged, but recently they arrested him - yay!! They charged him with 2 counts of aiding a suicide. He befriended this one Canadian woman - coached and manipulated her for months - he even tried to get people to do it in front of a web cam. He would tell them that he was also going to do it too and this Canadian woman believed him(her). The sad thing is he was a nurse and was suspected years ago of attending and seemingly liking to watch patients pass - he also physically abused a patient, although never charged. Thanks to a woman in the UK who never gave up, getting the U.S. police to listen to her - he would never have been caught if it wasn't for her determination.

Yes I am aware that anyone can read here but does that mean we should shut up? The abusers would love us to shut up wouldn't they!

I just want every member here to know that Psych Central is a very safe place. Abusers are not allowed here and any sign of trouble the admin team are pretty quick to sort things out. I remember a few years ago now when there was someone that clearly didn't belong here, they stirred up the membership, frightened them to death but they were banned the very same day!

We need to use our voices loud and clear!

"We need to use our voices loud and clear!"

Absolutely. The problem is (as I have personally experienced) there are groups of people who will approach a victim in PC or such forum to "share their experience" with you and then invite you to a "private" space where the coven is waiting to chat about it more. Once again you would be a victim.

Think about it. Does anyone in this space or via email truly need to know the vile details of one's abuse. We have a system for that and it is one-to-one therapy. Sure people here have every right to said they were or were not SA and they carry that pain today but the fact is a human being was abused and harmed sometimes beyond repair and I would walk away from any place that rings the dinner bell for any foul peice of nothingness.

I'm going to use my voice here loud and clear...FU...I lived.

My sentiments, entirely, Evening.

Loud and clear Peg and perhaps bumping up that story every-now-and-then Lynn_P.

And be aware that the vulnerable are still vulnerable even into the 80's. I need to exercise caution, not vigilence as I get older, too. The sickos don't seem to have discretion.

But, sending people who are safe here at PC into fear is not okay but I don't, for instance, give out my personal information (well, one time maybe, but learned a good lesson).

MickG are you in some therapy now? I hope we haven't dicouraged you from getting suppor here. I hope you can find some safe people to talk to here and to be with. I find it hard sometimes to talk about stuff, even though it is safe, but that is about me.

I pray for protection on all of us in this thread who are standing firm against the darkness and praying for stronger voices in the days to come, on the things that count and that is us!

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I definitely understand what you are saying Mick, you just NEVER know who is really watching, unless you are that person. At the same time I think a lot of people have nowhere else to go. I for one, I have lived alone since I was 17 years old and have very limited means. My therapist, it takes an hour on 2 buses and then a 30 minute walk, just to GET to her, then I have to go all the way back again. And on top of that, appointments with her are once a month average. I cannot see anyone else, she bulk bills me because she knows I can't afford to pay. I have also seen her since I was 11 years old and she knows EVERYTHING, she even met my main abuser first hand. She's met people in my family, she was there from the start of it all. I have seen a million therapists, doctors, counselors, even hypnotherapists, but my therapist is the only person that I feel comfortable talking to face to face. I can't go through everything with someone else. But that also means I don't get therapy that often, so sometimes I have to talk to SOMEONE.
So I talk a lot on here, I've always got something to complain about. Maybe there are abusers lurking somewhere, who knows? Nobody but them. There's perverts everywhere. But if one of them DID try to comment on here, there would be hell breaking lose with all the people who'd jump in to sort them out.
I do think there are a lot people who share your view in one way or another though Mick, a lot of people wouldn't trust anything on the net. A lot of people on here won't even share what COUNTRY they are from for privacy. I guess you could trust each member on here about the same, for all we know there are members who are completely full of it and are not really suffering the way they say they are. I think people have to make the choice, either put your trust in, or don't.

You have a good point Evening, I think basically what I am trying to say is there is a difference between sharing general details and the intensely personal things we should save for therapy elsewhere because we simply do not know what sort of creep is lurking about taking pleasure in the pain he had caused in someone else.

I agree with you Mick- there's nothing wrong with sharing the abuse to a certain point but not go into extreme graphic detail. About 2 months ago I read a post in this forum(a new member) - the detail of the assault was very graphic. I usually can handle details like this, but I was very concerned about this triggering another member. I also was concerned this could be a person posing as a victim, so I reported it, at least so the details could be edited. So I understand you don't want want complete censorship - just for members to be careful about graphic extreme details which could end up feeding a potential perpetrator.

I agree (though I have not thought it through) that it is probably a good idea to be careful how much detail one goes into. It occurs to me, though, that anyone taking pleasure in pain he or she causes is their problem, not necessarily ours -- unless they take some kind of action, and that is something that the legal system is designed to deal with (which it does sometimes and not, sometimes).

When those are the same b-stards walking in our community it becomes our problem.

How is it your problem if they are just walking? Can you spot them with a certainty? Even if you could, what would be a useful thing to do, other than keep a watch on them?

don't they...deseve forgiveness too? what if it was someone you love?

I'm talking about people purposely coming online to mess with abuse victims. It becomes the victim's problem once again because these useless wipes won't let up. So...we send security.

They'd better never touch anyone I know. I'll send the whole damn force.

I think this is off topic to this discussion. We're not talking about forgiveness here at all. If a person I love turned out to be a pedophile, I would expect them to go to jail and it wouldn't be up to me to forgive them unless the victim were a member of my family.

If this discussion were about forgiveness, your post would be a point well taken.

i guess it is easy to judge. i hope you never have to know what it is like to deal with the real life complications of familiy abuse

Very good points have been made here.

First and foremost, one must do self care, especially online. While we do have a wonderfully safe environment here at PC, each member is responsible for themselves and their safety as well.

We cannot stop people from reading the forums. We also have no control over what people think or what they "get off on". Censoring ourselves because there is a risk that a pervert might be reading is like censoring all the books/magazines in a public library, or the nightly news, or the newspapers who print graphic details......it just wouldn't work. At the same time, we victims have the right to find support in a safe environment and share what we need to share in order to connect with others who understand and can support us.

I believe that PC is the safest on the net for all of us. Of course, if anytime you think there is a problem here with safety, please, by all means let a mod or admin know of your concerns. We welcome hearing from all our members and assisting you to get the best experience you can from being here.

With much love and respect,
_sabby_

As always most people I think understand that not sharing personal info ie name, address, phone number etc.. is the safest one can be on line.

In addition to that there are creeps everywhere. As many who are reading this some creeps are family members and some are potentially neighbors that are yet to be discovered. Many, many, many, many perpetrators are never reported.

When it comes to CSA the info the pedophiles read can be anything on line in addition to books etc...

To censor ones descriptions is to let the perpetrator still have control (I do believe in a little bit of discretion but not everyone may feel that way). From my experiences on PC so far I've witnessed the majority of people on here to be supportive.

In the end these are only words and that's my two cents worth.

Yes, this is "action", not just "walking in the neighborhood". Has this happened to you?