How are you all dealing with coronavirus and the restrictions... #2

Well, crap. There was a lot of talk about Congress not renewing the state of constitutional exception. They did it anyways. We will continue to have no rights for the next three months.

People are a bit suspicious that they announced the arrival of the Delta variant right when the extension was under debate. It turns out the woman that has it arrived on June 4th.


They freed up lockdown for 24 other municipalities in my region but not here. Again, many did not have improvements in cases. It was due to "pandemic fatigue".

Here, we are putting all the weight on the vaccination.
Other than that we know for sure Delta variant is here and spreading. No tracking of the carriers. No keeping the safety measures among many people. There have been crowds for a political demonstrations (on the part of one side of politicians) nothing said in the press about this meeting in the middle of a pandemia, lots of meetings from youngers and other not so young celebrating. There last ones have been criticised by the press. The former haven’t. As always everything very coherent. (ironical)

I feel embarrassment when someone from the press asks one of these people who are celebrating in a crowd and without keeping security measures is asked. You don’t want to know what they say.
They say things such as that they are there because as they don’t have anyone at home to pass the virus on, they don’t care.
This is the future of the world. This is what we are leaving here lol!
I mention this because it’s not only an isolated case. It’s not an anecdote. You can’t guess how many times I heard the same and even worst cases, such as, they don’t care. They are young and they have to enjoy and drink.

@AzulOscuro. We have those people too. Stupidity exists everywhere. There are people that when being stopped by police for not respecting the curfew that say they didn't know there was a curfew. The curfew has existed for over a year by now.


Well, it came out that this woman with the Delta variant has been in the country since July 4th. There is conflicting information about whether there were other positive tests on the plane. They are trying to do a lot of tests in her city to see if other people are infected. The requirement to only have to spend 5 days in an isolation hotel upon arrival here is coming under a lot of criticism from doctors who say it should be a minimum of 11 days.

It's interesting that they only announced the Delta variant arrival yesterday, right when the Congress was discussing renewing the state of constitutional exception. Not suspicious at all!

After all the bad news yesterday, I am hitting another brick wall mentally. My work is suffering. I am sitting here at my desk crying and I can't concentrate. I worry I could lose my job for not turning in work on time. And, I don't really care if I do.

@rechu gentle hugs to you. It is such a long time to have to live with this situation, it is very wearing. I hope you can take some time for yourself, to nurture yourself and take care, sometimes we need to just stop and regroup.

fffff to the state of constitutional exception


These PCR tests at the airport feel like taking your shoes off, security theater. Vietnam increased their international traveler quarantine to 21 days after a handful of cases escaped despite a two week quarantine. Three weeks in a hostel is a good deterrent for frivolous travel.

Well, and this is the latest on the woman that brought the Delta variant here. Looks like she slipped through the protocols. This account does not match the initial story the Health Ministry gave us:

Google Translate

A complex complaint was made by the Municipality of San Javier about the woman detected as the first case of covid-19 with delta variant in Chile, ensuring that she did not quarantine after arriving in Chile and that she went directly from the Santiago airport to San Javier, without complying with the protocol established by the Ministry of Health.


During a press point, the mayor of San Javier, Jorge Silva, and the health director of the commune, Carlos Estrada, indicated that the woman did not quarantine, was not tested at the airport, participated in her father's funeral and only A PCR test was carried out after having been in the country for 7 days.


According to an investigation carried out by the Municipality, the woman arrived in Chile on June 4 and that day went directly from the airport to San Javier in a private car with a relative, which refutes the information given by the Ministry of Health.
"We have a record that the person entered the airport at 06:00 and was transferred by a relative in a private car on the same day 4 (...) in the Epivigila system there is no quarantine in the Santiago commune," said Estrada.

In the same vein, they argued that the woman only registers a PCR test in Chile, which was done on June 12, which was positive and later became the first case with the delta variant.

There are some very entertaining anti-government trending Twitter topics circulating right now!

I mean..... the Netherlands are allowing it all again. No more masks. Everything open. They say they're keeping the 1,5 m distance but that was probably the least followed rule to begin with. Even bars and night clubs get to open again without any restrictions apart from needing a negative test result.

And honestly I think it it absolutely insane and so incredibly stupid and yet if I were over there and I had a friend to go out with I would totally go. It's just been too freaking long we've been cooped up inside and I've been feeling so isolated. And I don't even like clubs. Just want to forget about everything and LIVE.

Here, the same in relation to relaxing measures. As if they were kept ever along the pandemia by everyone. lol!


Break, if you can go to the Netherlands to visit your parents and friends go. You do and take the measures you see. I know you have common sense. The rest does what ever f@cking they please.
We can’t fight against stupidity and people that don’t consider others.
But, at least, there are people who have common sense.

You take your mask with you while you can’t avoid crowds and try to be far from
crowds as much as possible.

I have examples near me who never gave a f@ack about security measures. And I can’t tell you how much it revolved my stomach. My mother, huh! my best friend...but, you, your head up. We are better in this.

No much more that when you had to show all your bottles and sprays and intimate things when terrorists attacks period.

It's so weird seeing huge crowds of people at the European Cup. So close together and no masks. Even if it is outside.... so was the match in Italy that turned to a super spreader event way back at the beginning of the pandemic.

But oh well. I won't be watching anymore after tonight anyway

Yes, I’m astonished about the amount of people in some soccer fields. For example, in Hungary. I’m not sure but I guess they were asked a test or something. I can’t either understand it.

Btw, it was a pity what happened today. Your team had a very bad day but they are very good.
You do as I’m gonna do. Choose another team to go with.
For example, tomorrow when we get kicked out, I already chose a second team, Italy. lol!

Test is not a 100% guarantee though. Infections still happened after test events where everyone also had to have a negative test result. At least more people have been vaccinated now.

Go red devils! my second team. Looking good so far, I kind of expected them to lose tonight.

Nice surprise from Czech Republic! It amazes me to see so many people, often without masks, in the stadiums too.

Well the plot thickens as far as the Delta variant woman. The Health Ministry finally admitted that the woman had spent only one day in an isolation hotel and then she was allowed to leave after a negative test due to "Christian humanitarian" reasons since she came to the country because her father died. Seriously? It's not like she was any less contagious because her dad passed away. They then lied and said she didn't go to the funeral. A family member came forward to refute that and indicated that she had also attended a wake at a restaurant. and gone to several stores. It seems that no one can find proof of the existence of a humanitarian exemption from quarantines.

As you can imagine, this is a huge scandal. If the Health Ministry lied about this, what else have they lied about. Can we trust the case numbers? Have other people coming into the country been allowed to avoid isolating and it wasn't found out? Maybe this will finally be the last nail in the coffin of this criminal government. How can the Health Ministry leadership act with any authority after blatantly lying?


If we can trust the numbers, active cases are at a comparatively low point. However, that is not going to last. 24 more municipalities in my region are leaving lockdown on Tuesday. Add that to the Delta variant, which that woman has been spreading around in the Maule region, and I am sure cases are going to ramp right up again.

Yes, it’s truth what you say about the tests. As long as people who travel aren’t vaccinated and even in this case, at least until we get herd immunity, it will always be a danger to break safety measures.

I didn’t discard red devils at all. Not with this goalkeeper. lol!

Don’t be bad and don’t put the finger in the wound! I recall you that Chile is so far only third in the Soccer American cup. lol!

@rechu, the thing happening with this woman is pretty incompetent. How many people couldn’t see their deceased relatives to avoid contagions along the pandemia? Countless.
If this kind of incompetence wouldn’t have happened also at the beginning of the pandemia, I had thought the virus already effected our heads but, nah, we are made like that by default. lol!

I also wanna rant a little. The mask alone is not a guarantee to avoid contagions. They reduce the possibilities of you transmitting the virus. Am I right?
If I’m wrong, I undo what I’m gonna say.
I have been all kinds of politicians in a crowd celebrating different things that has to do with Politics here and that is not relevant for what I’m gonna say. I have just seen them hugging among them, hugging with the public.
But, the problem is the youth. It’s being putting all the blame on them now. Isn’t it a paradox?
Am I right? Or am I taking it to an extreme? I mean, am I wrong?

@AzulOscuro - That has been one of the main reactions to the news about this woman. Many people who could not visit dying loved ones in the hospital or who could not attend funerals are saying on social media and comments to news articles, "why was this woman exempted from the restrictions that the rest of us have to follow?"

I am wondering if someone is going to figure out who she is, maybe an investigative journalist. San Javier is a small town. Her dad died of Covid. By looking at obituaries, it could probably narrowed down quite a lot.

Haha, the Chilean national team is pathetic to be honest. A lot of guys have been around since before the 2010 World Cup and think they run the show. Many good coaches don't want to work with them because they know they are problematic. Word gets around. A coach quits and then we have to accept anyone who will take them.


They were free from the last date of the group stage of the Copa America. because there are five teams so each one gets one off date. The team came back here yesterday to prepare for the next round. Supposedly there is a list of requirements they have to meet due to COVID. How long is it until one of them is busted for not following the protocols? You just know it's going to happen. My money is on Arturo Vidal.

And just for a laugh:
https://twitter.com/Prof_Chadwick/st...23539305238532

The Chinese Ambassador here issued a press release in favor of the Chinese vaccines. One of his points was that 65% of the vaccines used in Latin America are Sinovac. I guess his point is that at least they are shipping more vaccines than the US or Europe. But, as far as promoting their vaccines, saying that when Latin America is the epicenter of the pandemic right now is probably not too bright.

I'm feeling worried about the rise in cases, it's over 22,000 today and seems to be rising exponentially again.

The experts aren't sure why. It could be Delta variant (much more transmissible) or relaxation of guidelines and people dropping their guard. Also waning immunity from previous infection and vaccination was mentioned but not in detail.

I'm trying to stop my worries bounding out of control, the death rate is not high so far although hospitalizations are up.

We also have a new health minister (last one resigned for breaking social distancing while having an affair with a colleague, you couldn't make it up) and he's adamant all restrictions will be removed on the 19th July.

I'm actually very distrustful of this government and very worried about what will happen next. I don't want any more full miserable lockdowns but I don't want this virus to rage unbounded either. I can't see there's going to be a happy ending.

I read about your Health Minister @Discombobulated. Here our President went to the funeral of his uncle, who died of COVID. There were more people than allowed and they opened the coffin, which is also not permitted. He also took maskless selfies with the 3 people that still support him. I think he had to pay a fine for that one. As always, with the powerful, it's do as I say, not as I do.


If you believe the numbers, we are seeing some progress. However, there was another long weekend with people traveling. That always leads to a later spike. And, they announced the easing of restrictions in another 8 municipalities (not mine) as of Thursday. Again, "pandemic fatigue" was cited for most of them. The quarantine restrictions are never very useful, but numbers do tend to go up once they are released.

Between all that and Delta, I am feeling like you. Really concerned about what is to come. Who knows how many woman the first Delta woman infected and now they have detected a second case in a recent arrival. They say he and others from the flight that tested positive are in isolation. I guess the other samples have yet to be sequenced to see if they are Delta too. But, that was the original story the last time and it was a lie.


At least they are talking about better vaccines and a third dose for Sinovac recipients, but those new contracts need to be finalized and the vaccines need to arrive. It probably will be a few months until it becomes reality and we are in winter. I just read that the Dominican Republic is also analyzing another dose for Sinovac recipients. That is the main vaccine being used there too.

@AzulOscuro - In the end it was an exciting game and your team won! Neither France nor Germany won, so I guess I will keep supporting Czech Republic.

Chile plays Brazil on Friday, so we are pretty much eliminated. Brazil is playing like the team you want to see. Not, for example, like that train wreck they were in the 2014 World Cup. They haven't lost a game and have just one tie with Ecuador.

Well, lockdown here continues. We are only one of 10 out of 52 municipalities in our region that will still be locked down as of Thurdsay. At least I tried this app that became recently available here, where someone goes and shops for you and brings you your order in a few hours. It's for the best supermarket here and we don't like going there in person these days. There is a constant line to get in due to capacity restrictions. They have better product variety than other places in town. Anyways, it worked perfectly. I am glad to have another option for online grocery delivery during this time.

Oh gosh it's getting to me these days. I just feel so tired and worn down - I haven't had anything reassembling a holiday in almost 2 years.

I have time off in a few weeks but my h doesn't want to go anywhere. We used to do a few city breaks a year, nothing fancy but we'd get a nice hotel and treat ourselves to meals out, museum visits etc.

I thought we might go away now we're both double vaccinated but he doesn't want to, doesn't feel safe. So another summer is going to pass by with no change of scene. I feel so depressed and while I want to hope this will get better I'm not sure about that.

L.M.A.O! El pibe (the buddy) doesn’t seem to feel very well after receiving Sinovac.
Sometimes, it’s needed and sane to take what happens and what it’s out of our hands with humor. It’s a quite healthy way to take things. Latin American countries’ populations usually do this very well.
And it doesn’t mean they don’t care, it means they had enough and they show a big capacity of resilience.

@rechu, did your husband received Sinovac or Pfizer?

At least, in the UK, people in charge take responsibility of their acts and resign. This is something unknown here. lol!
@Discombobulated, anyway, this is coming to an end. You will see.
Here, the numbers of contagions are rising the last three days. I guess it’s something to expect until the younger people get their vaccines.
Still, there’s a way to walk because this is a world crisis but you will see, we are gonna overcome this. And I hope, we have learnt.

Yes, the match was exciting,. Indeed, too much! lol!
So, Break goes with the Red Devils, you with the Czech Republic, Discombobulated, guess. she goes with England and I go with Spain ( wave red). Let’s see what happens.

What you described about Chilean team is something that happens. A good coach with personality and the choice to choose players without a big Ego is the key in these cases.

Ego is so dangerous for everything.
Look at the examples, all the bull$hit that has been said in relation to the Pandemia by Presidents if nations and their @ss kisses. This is our first problem.

I’m sorry a lot. I guess your husband is worried about the Delta variant, isn’t he?