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Old Jul 24, 2009, 09:53 AM
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I don't know what is going on. I am so irritable, anxious, nervous. I am yelling at my kids, I am yelling at my hudband. He handles my moods by taking it personally and getting mad. I can't do anything, but I want to do everything. I feel guilty for not doing anything. I am too nervous to get anything done. I don't make sense. I took Klonopin to calm down but it didn't work. I am going to cry, and scream. I want to take a nap but run a marathon.

When does it end? How does it end?

Too afraid to call T-doc or P-doc. Why am I so afraid? Can't do laundry because I might lose my mind. Same with dishes. Maybe I am high on Klonopin, maybe just on the adrenaline rush. I can't deal but I have to deal.

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Old Jul 24, 2009, 11:06 AM
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I don't know what is going on. I am so irritable, anxious, nervous. I am yelling at my kids, I am yelling at my hudband. He handles my moods by taking it personally and getting mad. I can't do anything, but I want to do everything. I feel guilty for not doing anything. I am too nervous to get anything done. I don't make sense. I took Klonopin to calm down but it didn't work. I am going to cry, and scream. I want to take a nap but run a marathon.

When does it end? How does it end?

Too afraid to call T-doc or P-doc. Why am I so afraid? Can't do laundry because I might lose my mind. Same with dishes. Maybe I am high on Klonopin, maybe just on the adrenaline rush. I can't deal but I have to deal.
I don't know how knowledgable you are with your bipolar but - everything you've said is what you and I've have been 'blessed' with.

It does sound like the medication needs to be adjusted. Also are you eating things that may be stimulating the manic part. Stay around from sugars and caffiene.... even some other foods can trigger mania

It is very difficult for your family and those around you to deal with our every mood swing...... I know I'm there too!

Please NEVER EVER fear calling your doctor.....EVER, really sounds like medication, AND you've got a lot to handle so your brain is running like a dial clock all the wheels turning at once.

Call doctor please... and remember, cuz I do too - people around us can only take so much - cuz they've got their issues too.
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Old Jul 24, 2009, 12:30 PM
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But I don't feel manic...I don't know what I feel, but I am definitely nervous in the pit of my stomach. I am upset that I can't get anything done and I feel overwhelmed by my feelings. I'll try to work up the nerve to call p-doc. Worst case scenario, I see T-doc on Monday and p-doc on Tuesday.

When I was in partial I kept saying that my meds weren't working and they kept increasing the dose and telling me to wait for it to work, that it could take 8 weeks. That means 4 more weeks of this?

I was better off on my own without all this intervention.

Sorry, I am just venting my heart out.

This sounds silly, but what do you say when you call?

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Old Jul 24, 2009, 01:44 PM
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Sounds like your're having a mixed episode. Call your pdoc. Tell them, "Something is wrong. I'm afraid of my dishes in the laundry. I can't calm down, but I'm so tired. I feel like I'm going to explode. Please help me." If you think you might miss something write it down so that when you do get them on the phone you don't just sit there upset and confused. I'm certain your doctor will take this very seriously. Remember that your doc is here to care for you.
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Old Jul 24, 2009, 02:26 PM
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I left a message. Hopefully they will call back.
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Old Jul 24, 2009, 03:25 PM
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Of course they will. They will call you. And you will tell them. And then they will try to help.
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Old Jul 24, 2009, 03:59 PM
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He had me pop two more Klonopin and we'll speak on Tuesday at my appointment.
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Old Jul 24, 2009, 04:08 PM
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I've had them and I know many people IRL and on forums who have had them and it sounds like a panic attack or possible onset of bi-polar issues.

I am lucky enough to be in U.S. where an M.D. will prescribe xanax (lorazapam) or valium (diazapam). These work for me and I know people that have gotten help from Klonipin. If the increased dose of that does not work please ask if you can try one of the others.

I know many people in the U.K. that have told me there M.D. or pdoc will not prescirbe these because they are addictive. I have taken one or the other for 20 years and if I were to stop suddenly I would have horrible panic attacks, but other than that I have had no problem with these drugs.
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Old Jul 24, 2009, 04:15 PM
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My old doc gave that crap too, BNL. Don't let it bring you down. They can't just sedate you and call that treatment. If you wake up tomorrow and still feel unwell, call the oncall doctor and repeat the process.
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Old Jul 24, 2009, 04:36 PM
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Maybe I am not asking the right questions...

If it was a panic attack it was the second this week and they are lasting all day. Is that possible for a panic attack? COuld my mood stabilizer be stabilizing my moods and now apossible hidden anxiety disorder is coming out?

I don't want to be all drugged out.

If I don't feel well tonorrow, I will call my T-doc instead. He is much more understanding and supportive.
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Old Jul 24, 2009, 09:48 PM
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Yikes. I wish my p-nurse would give me something to help my extreme mood swings/anger/depression in the past few weeks. She wouldn't change my meds at all today. She would only consider adding Lithium to my other meds (and lithium totally scares me). I just need something until the Lamictal starts working! I said that to her, then she wants to drop my anti-depressant, which I need for energy at all. I wanted to drop my sleep aid for a new one. No such luck. I'm stuck for a month it looks like and I'll just have to grit my teeth on extreme days and go to sleep after my emotions and brain have worn me out.

Some Klonopin sounds good about now. Not trying to diminish anything of what you're going through. Definitely keep in touch with your docs if you're finding things unbearable.

I just saw a movie where the guy took a Klonopin for the first time and he couldn't hear anything for a while, only the pounding of his own heart and a little later he was fantasizing about attacking the guy who was seeing his ex-wife, but in the end he was calm and rational. Not sure if that has anything to do with anything, just saying that's all I know about it. I used to be on lorazepam (another in the benz-whatever class), but p-nurse took me off of it b/c she said it was addictive long term. Don't remember any bad side effects.

So I'm rambling, but when I first started a lot of my antidepressants, they caused anxiety, heart racing, aggressiveness etc. So maybe it's one of those that's causing the panic or all day long anxiety. The sleep aid/anti-anxiety/anti-psychotics will tend to counter those effects. It's like you don't want to have no energy, but you don't want to have a nervous brain either. And if your depression isn't being treated (i.e. you're on the wrong anti-dep for you personally) it will only cause anxiety and nervous energy.

Consider having your antidepressant meds reevaluated when you see your doc next. Or, as they always say, after a couple of weeks on the anti, such side effects may wear off. Sorry, I know every hour and day feels like an eternity right now. And relief is all we want!

Hold on. We'll be here.
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Old Jul 25, 2009, 08:30 AM
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I haven't been put on an anti depressant yet. They want to stabilize my mood swings first and get the mood stabilizer up to a therapeutic level first. This stinks, but it's good to have found people who understand. I feel better today. Just a little bit of the nervous feeling today. I can handle that, but if it gets worse, I'll take the Klonopin again. I don't suppose I'll be addicted by Tuesday when I see p-doc.

Oh, wait, unless you count Ativan for sleep...but I was told yesterday to take either Klonopin or Ativan but not both...

I need a med lesson on Tuesday.
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Old Jul 25, 2009, 11:43 AM
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That's good that you're feeling a bit better. Don't hesitate to let us know if things change at all.

No anti-dep, huh? I guess that makes sense. When I started getting treatment, it was for unipolar depression, so they first gave me antis. Then the anxiety and restlessness had them giving me things like Trazodone and Lorazepam (Ativan) to counter them. Now they've added in a mood stabilizer, but it's still not working. Sigh.

Yeah, you can be on the benzos for months I think w/out addiction, but years is another story. No worries. Especially at a low dose.

Hope you continue to have a less anxious day. And med lessons help, yeah. I got one yesterday and I was wrong on the dosing in the future, slightly.

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I got like that on Zoloft, when i was going hypomanic. Anxiety is a huge part of bipolar II, or so I have read in a few places.

When it was really bad, all I could manage to do was take care of my baby. The other stuff just fell by the wayside. Then I was able to do one chore a day. Then two. It was a long, slow process.

My PNP and most of the psych people in my area subscribe to the idea that antidepressants end up increasing the frequency of the cycles in bipolar. Along with the episodes getting more frequent, the episodes get worse. Mood stabilizers are all they really like to use unless the depression hasn't responded to multiple stabilizers. Lithium has finally kicked in...and it feels good. So don't give up hope...which is hard to do I know.
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Old Jul 25, 2009, 01:03 PM
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I got like that on Zoloft, when i was going hypomanic. Anxiety is a huge part of bipolar II, or so I have read in a few places.

When it was really bad, all I could manage to do was take care of my baby. The other stuff just fell by the wayside. Then I was able to do one chore a day. Then two. It was a long, slow process.

My PNP and most of the psych people in my area subscribe to the idea that antidepressants end up increasing the frequency of the cycles in bipolar. Along with the episodes getting more frequent, the episodes get worse. Mood stabilizers are all they really like to use unless the depression hasn't responded to multiple stabilizers. Lithium has finally kicked in...and it feels good. So don't give up hope...which is hard to do I know.
Hmm...then maybe the p-nurse is right and I should get rid of the Wellbutrin. Some of the mood swings are hell and some days I am rapid cycling, but I couldn't even get out of bed before the WB...not sure.
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