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Old Oct 22, 2012, 10:06 PM
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I've been in a downward spiral for just over a month. I take geodon for my mania and such and it has been great for that. But it does nothing for the depression. I can't take effexor, abilify, buspar, amytriptline, zoloft that I know for sure. I have seen that others here are taking ad's. Just wondering what you're taking, how it works and does it affect your mania. I have an appt with my pdoc in a couple of days so any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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Old Oct 22, 2012, 10:11 PM
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I take Lamictal and Seroquel for Bipolar 1. I just started taking Effexor to see if it would lift my depression. I used to take it before I developed this disorder and it was worked great. I know there is a risk of AD's kicking me back into mania but it's a risk my pdoc and I are willing to take.
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Old Oct 22, 2012, 10:20 PM
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I'm at that point of trying again. I'm so sad today I didn't even want to veg out in front of the tv. I haven't volunteered in weeks, and I was going almost everyday till i fell into this funk. It's not the worst depression I've ever been in, but it sure is making itself known. I get up out of bed just to go lay down on my couch. That's another clue for me that it's got it's claws in me.
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Old Oct 22, 2012, 10:34 PM
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I take Prozac (a low dose) and the combo of Geodon and Lithium protects me from mania effectively.
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Old Oct 22, 2012, 11:12 PM
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I tried celexa again and both time I had hypo mania/mania.
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Old Oct 22, 2012, 11:36 PM
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I've been in a downward spiral for just over a month. I take geodon for my mania and such and it has been great for that. But it does nothing for the depression. I can't take effexor, abilify, buspar, amytriptline, zoloft that I know for sure. I have seen that others here are taking ad's. Just wondering what you're taking, how it works and does it affect your mania. I have an appt with my pdoc in a couple of days so any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Kinda new here - what are "ADs?"

Glad to hear Geodon works for you. I was prescribed it once, and it threw me into a major psychotic episode. Never again.
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Old Oct 22, 2012, 11:39 PM
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I take Prozac (a low dose) and the combo of Geodon and Lithium protects me from mania effectively.
How low of a dose if you don't mind my asking?
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Old Oct 22, 2012, 11:40 PM
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Antidepressants.
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Old Oct 22, 2012, 11:42 PM
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Kinda new here - what are "ADs?"

Glad to hear Geodon works for you. I was prescribed it once, and it threw me into a major psychotic episode. Never again.
Antidepressants = AD
Antipsychotics = AP

Sorry about that. I should have had it spelt out, cause I see abbreviations I don't get and wonder too.
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Next, get a hammer.....


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Old Oct 22, 2012, 11:50 PM
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I tried celexa again and both time I had hypo mania/mania.
Yeah, I've tried effexor twice and am now 100% sure that will never happen again. Different docs wanted to try their way. I tried and we learned I needed to not be on them. serious manic obsessions for me. I just want some thing to give me a little umph, not cure me. i already do the fish oil, vit d, nacytl-cystiene. most of the nautraopatic (sp) options readily available. Even have a full spectrim light.
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 11:30 AM
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How low of a dose if you don't mind my asking?
10 mg. The effect kicked in within days.
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 12:00 PM
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I take a high dose of Lexapro (20mg) along w/Seroquel, and it's worked out great.
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 01:29 PM
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I am dx with bipolar I. Every time I tried an AD I would become very manic with psychosis present, or mixed even with mood stabilizers in place. I tried so many diff ones, finally my dr said no more AD's, which was fine by me, that got old pretty fast. Prozac was the absolute most damaging, and effexor next... goes to show how different we all are.

I learned a lot of coping skills and techniques to pull myself out of depressions. And that has worked very well for me over the years. You might be able to find one that works, but sometimes the AD's just don't work for some people. Probably see this more with Bipolar I than II I would think. Sorry that's not real helpful. But I get it, I asked the same question many times.
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 01:59 PM
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I am dx with bipolar I. Every time I tried an AD I would become very manic with psychosis present, or mixed even with mood stabilizers in place. I tried so many diff ones, finally my dr said no more AD's, which was fine by me, that got old pretty fast. Prozac was the absolute most damaging, and effexor next... goes to show how different we all are.

I learned a lot of coping skills and techniques to pull myself out of depressions. And that has worked very well for me over the years. You might be able to find one that works, but sometimes the AD's just don't work for some people. Probably see this more with Bipolar I than II I would think. Sorry that's not real helpful. But I get it, I asked the same question many times.
I'm type 1 as well. At one point they had me on the max dose of effexor, wellbutrin and buspar that just sent me over the edge. Nice trip to the hospital after that, but I was finally diagnosed with Bipolar. Talk about a rapid decrease in meds. They gave me seroquel and abilify while inpt and I couldn't stay awake for nothing. I'm afraid there will be nothing to do for the depression. I already know a lot of the coping skills, but when it grabs hold just taking a shower is a miracle, let alone getting out and trying to be active and social.

Thank you for your insight, you are always informative with other options and I appreciate it.
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 02:00 PM
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I take a high dose of Lexapro (20mg) along w/Seroquel, and it's worked out great.
Thanks. I'm not familiar with lexapro. I'll research it. So no mania/hypo with it?
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 02:38 PM
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Thanks. I'm not familiar with lexapro. I'll research it. So no mania/hypo with it?
Lexapro is similar to Celexa. It's pretty much the newer, more refined version of it.

I did go hypo at one point, but raising my dose of Seroquel fixed that quickly. (I had been on a low dose, only 200mg...now I'm at 300mg and since raising my dose there have been no signs of hypomania).
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 02:45 PM
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Was the buspar for teeth grinding? I never tried lexapro, but celexa, made me grind my teeth really bad in my sleep, suprized nothing broke, it was pretty violent tooth grinding and would wake my bf. I tried a mouth gaurd but I would end up spitting it out in my sleep, real attractive. I knew that buspar was an option, but I didn't try it.

Aw thanks, I hope I can help a bit. This topic, well not so much. I hope you do find something that works tho, depression just isn't any way to have to live .
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 03:50 PM
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Was the buspar for teeth grinding? I never tried lexapro, but celexa, made me grind my teeth really bad in my sleep, suprized nothing broke, it was pretty violent tooth grinding and would wake my bf. I tried a mouth gaurd but I would end up spitting it out in my sleep, real attractive. I knew that buspar was an option, but I didn't try it.

Aw thanks, I hope I can help a bit. This topic, well not so much. I hope you do find something that works tho, depression just isn't any way to have to live .
No, the buspar was an adjunct for the antidepressants, was at 375mg of the effexor, 200 mg wellbutrin and nothing was working. But I just kept getting more and more depressed. Needless to say it actually ended up being dysphoric mania. Who knew you could be so miserable and hyper at the same time?

That bites about the celexa. Pun intended. I have tmj, so that may not work out. I was off effexor for over a month before my jaw started to relax from it. sigh.
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 05:39 PM
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Have you tried Lithium? Although it is a MS, it has powerful antidepressant effects. It is even given to non-bipolar folks who are very depressed. It is particularly good for decreasing suicidal thoughts. I found it helpful in the past.

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Old Oct 23, 2012, 05:53 PM
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Lamictal 300 mg
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Paxil made the biggest difference in lifting me out of the depression. On Lamictal and effexor alone, I remained depressed.
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 06:32 PM
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I was on Lamictal and Seroquel instead of ADs because my former shrink was pretty sure the ADs had been making me hypomanic (I was diagnosed with depression for a decade before the bipolar diagnosis).
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 06:59 PM
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Like bunnifoo, I'm on Lamictal and Seroquel. While I'm not sure if the Seroquel (anti-psychotic) is effective against depression, I'm convinced that Lamictal is very effective to combat depression...most of the time, at least. When I was on Celexa (anti-depressant) it sent me into manic orbit. As a result, my psychiatrist will no longer prescribe anti-depressants.
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 10:49 PM
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Have you tried Lithium? Although it is a MS, it has powerful antidepressant effects. It is even given to non-bipolar folks who are very depressed. It is particularly good for decreasing suicidal thoughts. I found it helpful in the past.

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No, haven't tried lithium. I have a messed up thyroid, so they are reluctant to try me on it. But thanks for the suggestion. I will discuss it with my pdoc tomorrow. I've been doing great with the geodon and what it's been doing for me is miraculous, so haven't looked at mood stabilizers like lithium and lamictal. Guess I need to widen my search and begrudgingly changing my meds. I'm just so sensitive to meds and usually have a running list of side effects. Thanks for the suggestion. Just difficult because I've found something that works so well for the mania and the psychosis without the weight gain. I gained 80 lbs on effexor and trileptal, not wanting to go that route again.
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 11:02 PM
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No, haven't tried lithium. I have a messed up thyroid, so they are reluctant to try me on it. But thanks for the suggestion. I will discuss it with my pdoc tomorrow. I've been doing great with the geodon and what it's been doing for me is miraculous, so haven't looked at mood stabilizers like lithium and lamictal. Guess I need to widen my search and begrudgingly changing my meds. I'm just so sensitive to meds and usually have a running list of side effects. Thanks for the suggestion. Just difficult because I've found something that works so well for the mania and the psychosis without the weight gain. I gained 80 lbs on effexor and trileptal, not wanting to go that route again.
I take Lithium together with Levoxyl, which takes care of the thyroid issue 100%. Levoxyl itself causes no side effects. I am a big believer in Lithium and regret not having started on it earlier. The combo of Lithium and Geodon is nothing short of fantastic for me and I hope that the p-doc will allow me to try Wellbutrin for weight loss even though Wellbutrin can cause mania, but Geodon+Lithium is a highly protective combo.
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 11:03 PM
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So this is what I'm thinking of asking. Lexapro, wellbutrin, lamictal. Kinda iffy on the mood stabilizer since one side is stable. sigh. so not looking forward to this. Thanks everyone for your help. I really appreciate it.
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