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Old Mar 25, 2015, 06:39 PM
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I talked to T. He wants me to get back on the meds asap. He wanted me to call the nurses line and talk to the pharmacist. He's very concerned that I wont be able to catch myself when I spin out and I'll end up sectioned. So my idea. Get the meds to restart if needed. I have about a week left in this horrible withdraw then I'll decide when I'll re-start. I need to talk to my pdoc.
Didn't this happen once before where you went on a trip and left your meds (might be thinking of someone else). Wondering if perhaps this is your way of passively/aggressively meddling with your meds again, particularly based on this post saying you'll get the meds (you said earlier you couldn't get them) but only restart them when you decide to do so.
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Old Mar 25, 2015, 08:02 PM
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"If needed "? Aren't they needed? Why do you want to wait until you withdraw first, especially when your doctor says get back on them now?

I'm worried for you and your family, please be safe!
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Old Mar 25, 2015, 08:04 PM
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Getting any and restarting can be dangerous to at this point . I have less then $5 and no way to drive there and back. So far I feel dizzy, zappy brain, and tingly but I have no way to get extras because I rely on insurance. If I hold out until Wednesday maybe t can help.
Why are you out of your meds?
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Old Mar 25, 2015, 08:32 PM
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You are asking for trouble. It can be avoided. Let me tell you it was very bad. Very bad. I know I have said it before. It took me 1 or 2 weeks until I went to full blown mania. I wouldn't risk it if you get psychotic. I don't get psychotic, and it was very bad.

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Sorry I can't think except disjointed sentences with silents in between.

I have the full doses now but with both the lamictal and effexor need to be built back up to those levels. My T wants me to call the nurses line or pharmacist to figure out how to build back up. So the only one I can take is the Abilify normally. With this withdraw I'm finally free to finish the stupid withdraw and try unmedicated with therapy. Which I have never tried and want to. while clutching my abilify closely just in case. I'm withdrawn currently and just there so waiting is not a bad thing.

I don't think this was a passive aggressive thing but it may have worked out to be a good thing.
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Old Mar 25, 2015, 08:51 PM
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Why are you out of your meds? I left it and all my other important things 4 hrs away for an extended weekend.
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Sorry I can't think except disjointed sentences with silents in between.

I have the full doses now but with both the lamictal and effexor need to be built back up to those levels. My T wants me to call the nurses line or pharmacist to figure out how to build back up. So the only one I can take is the Abilify normally. With this withdraw I'm finally free to finish the stupid withdraw and try unmedicated with therapy. Which I have never tried and want to. while clutching my abilify closely just in case. I'm withdrawn currently and just there so waiting is not a bad thing.

I don't think this was a passive aggressive thing but it may have worked out to be a good thing.

I don't want to be mean at all , but I have this horrible affliction of being blunt, so take this or leave it.

In all the years that I have known you ..... you have never been stable on or off meds and in or outta therapy. You never give medications enough of a try to even know if they will in fact help you long term or not., Your T stuff.. It's hard to make any kind of headway in a Therapy setting if your always up or down and playing chemist.

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Old Mar 25, 2015, 09:53 PM
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Just please be safe, okay? I've only done lamotrigine and the withdrawal from just a step down had me feeling sick.
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I have only been posting for a few months, but look at your signature. "i shouldn't be so broken". How are you gonna fix that without complying to a regime to make yourself healthy?
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Did you call the nurse line or the pharmaceutical place? What did they say? I find it hard to believe they recommend that you finish withdrawl before starting again.
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Old Mar 26, 2015, 12:21 AM
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I didn't talk to the nurses line. Last time they were less than helpful I don't feel right asking a pharmacist something that should be going through pdoc. I see pdoc next week. I have to decide what my family is willing to handle. I haven't been completely off medication in 4 years.
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Old Mar 26, 2015, 12:37 AM
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Do you believe the people here on PC are less that helpful? Most of us are urging you not to self destruct again and work with your mental health team.

Ask yourself if it is possible that in your current state your thinking could be hampered by the withdrawl and what seems perfectly reasonable to you(not restarting your meds until you've compleated a involuntary withdrawal) is a result distorted thinking. Do you want to possibly end up in the hospital or again put your child though a crisis based on this distorted thinking.

Your T and several people here have pointed out the harm this can do to you. I wonder if you like being in a crisis and like the attention you get when you need to be rescued again and again from your impulses?
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Old Mar 26, 2015, 05:50 AM
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Why are you out of your meds? I left it and all my other important things 4 hrs away for an extended weekend.
So you or someone else needs to go get them. That is the simplest and safest option. This on/off meds thing you do so frequently is dangerous for you and your son.
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Can you call your pdoc and see what he wants you to do? And then do that. People just care and don't want to see you crash hard.
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Old Mar 27, 2015, 01:17 PM
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Let me get this straight...


You've never managed to stay safe and cope in healthy ways on your meds, but you're attempting to try and and cope off them?


I'm sorry but this makes absolutely no sense to me.


I mean I know what it is to go sans meds, and even for me it gets pretty bloody hard, and I'm not the one who forgets English, suffers from severe paranoia, and has to deal with wanting to kill my husband / family.


I would strongly rethink this plan of yours.


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Old Mar 27, 2015, 08:55 PM
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You've never managed to stay safe and cope in healthy ways on your meds I have managed it safely a number of times. I plan to continue managing with the help of my therapist and family.

Everyone is well aware of my worst symptoms ( which doesn't sound bp related) I am doing the best for myself and miguel.

Pdoc has yet to called me back yet and I will continue to work with him and t. I wasn't asking to be rescued or make others feel I'm in crisis because I'm not. I posted to know what to expect when meds weren't available. Crisis look a lot different.

I will be as safe as possible.
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I really wish the best for you. I personally will take my meds and stay on them until I have a year of stability. My son still lives with me (he's 19) I'm not gonna put him through MY INSANITY. It's not fair.

How long in the past, off meds, were you stable?
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Old Mar 27, 2015, 09:57 PM
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I have not been off meds in 4 years. I got on them because of paranoia before that I was off meds 3 years. All accounts of before that a horrible pdoc had me much worse than my natural cycle. Stable is relative. I'm in a much better position then previously.
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Have you ever discussed why you don't take steps to be healthier? That there might be something internally stopping you? It's almost like you want to push the button sooooo far until all decisions are made for you.

I do wish you the best. You don't deserve to live in pain.

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Old Mar 28, 2015, 08:38 PM
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I'm relatively healthy, quite, but healthy. I'm a control freak so I don't push until it's to far. I'm as healthy as I get. I'm through withdrawal things are finally looking up for me. Now it's time to build on skills.
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I feel for you I really do. But you have messed with your Meds so much no wonder it's been a terrible experience for you. You need to take them as prescribed and give them a good go, I have never seen you take meds consistently and as prescribed on my time on this forum. Some need up to 3 months to work especially when you've been so unstable for so long. Stability will be foreign to you. It may feel flattening at first but working with your skills you can find a happy baseline on meds. It doesn't help that you move all the time either, that is hard for mentally well people and hard on your son although you may not see that. I wish I could help you but that is up to you and your docs. My recommendation is to stay med complient at least a few months then reassess your life. All the best.
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