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I'm having a really bad paranoia/anxiety attack right now that I'm trying to ignore, but it's hard because it feels like there's something cold on my back, just resting on it. It feels heavy. It won't go away.

What if demons do exist?

What if I'm becoming possessed?

I looked at myself in the mirror before and I didn't recognize the person staring back at me through my own eyes. It was something evil.

I don't know why I'm being assaulted by all of this negative energy. I try not to be negative in my everyday life. I try to exert positive energy. I guess I need to do more. I need to make more positive energy.

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That was me last night. I'm doing okay tonight though, for now.

But do you believe that demons exist?

Or could some negative energy just ball and condense itself into a massive entity of some sort?
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Sweetheart...I think you need to go to the ER. When I believed I was demon possessed, I was extremely psychotic. I believe you need serious help.
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Old May 29, 2015, 11:56 PM
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But I'm not psychotic. I can't be. I'm not in an episode, other than feeling a little down. I only feel that way when I'm having those paranoia feelings, which admittedly I'm having right now. I feel physically sick. I don't even believe in demons really, just negative energy, and I don't know how to fight it.
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Old May 30, 2015, 01:20 AM
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I hope you feel better

My boyfriend and I both have bipolar 1 and I showed your post to him. He said, well that means unicorns aren't off the map. (Just a bit of humor and trying to put a smile on your face.)

I'm thinking about you.
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Old May 30, 2015, 02:09 AM
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Your right, you don't need to be psychotic to wonder this. After all many "normal" people believe in demons too. I think it's a valid point and not delusional unless you really believe your possessed and or they are talking to you. To simply wonder about it is ok. I wonder too! Because every night I am awaken by what feels like some one shaking me or kicking me. I've also often wondered if all mental illness is caused by demons.

I think it gets worse with the paranoia and anxiety. I think we create our own demons.

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When I was a child, my mother used to say demons are the result of our own sins

Not the most sensitive thing to say, but in her own way, she was trying to say, if you know you're a good person, you have nothing to fear.

I don't think you sound ER'ish at all to me.

As mentioned above, many MANY neurotypicals believe in demons and nobody chases them to hospital.

I personally believe I've had demonic experiences, and yes these were outside of episodes, although one very disturbing one was in the midst of an episode.

FTR, my cousin swears he witnessed a possessed person (I won't go into it) and I have no reason to disbelieve him.

Me, personally I think that there's so much more to this reality than what we can see, taste and smell on a daily basis. And its not all in our head all of the time.

Besides, all rumours have to start somewhere.
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Old May 30, 2015, 09:51 AM
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Sometimes I get the heebie jeebies because I feel/sense a presence in the room or someone's looking in through the window, or from the closet. It's just a touch of paranoia, but nothing serious like.
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there is so much in this world that we cant see

im not christian any longer but if you believe in the bible,
it says we have dominion over these creatures, if we show know fear and stand strong we can conquer any evil force
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But I'm not psychotic. I can't be. I'm not in an episode, other than feeling a little down. I only feel that way when I'm having those paranoia feelings, which admittedly I'm having right now. I feel physically sick. I don't even believe in demons really, just negative energy, and I don't know how to fight it.
I believe in the idea of "breakthrough symptoms". BP **** that clobbers you during a well period

When I was pretty well but maybe a tad depressed I had a night where I woke up in a panic and couldn't get back to sleep. I tired everything but was experiencing a terror of sorts. I went into the bathroom and a fly was buzzing around and I thought it was evil and my head started going there is evil in here etc etc. ya know the Bipolar freak show in my brain. So I took a bunch of klonopin and melatonin and somehow got to sleep.

The next day I was fine again.

Some of the wisest words I ever heard on this board...

Bipolar is ridiculous.

There aren't rules for it. We always want to believe there are rules and boundaries and measures etc. the mental health people want there to be too. But there aren't. Bipolar has been around longer than the mental health profession, or the DSM, or psychiatric wards, or anything else.

Don't discount things just because they don't fit the "rules".
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Old May 30, 2015, 10:24 AM
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When I was a child, my mother used to say demons are the result of our own sins

Not the most sensitive thing to say, but in her own way, she was trying to say, if you know you're a good person, you have nothing to fear.

I don't think you sound ER'ish at all to me.

As mentioned above, many MANY neurotypicals believe in demons and nobody chases them to hospital.

I personally believe I've had demonic experiences, and yes these were outside of episodes, although one very disturbing one was in the midst of an episode.

FTR, my cousin swears he witnessed a possessed person (I won't go into it) and I have no reason to disbelieve him.

Me, personally I think that there's so much more to this reality than what we can see, taste and smell on a daily basis. And its not all in our head all of the time.

Besides, all rumours have to start somewhere.
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I'm kind of amazed that you posted this because this is something that I think about on a daily basis. I had a Christian person tell me I was possessed a few years ago based on the fact that I have BP and I've never really let it go. I almost always feel a presence with me or feel like there's someone watching me. It's the kind of thing where if I close my eyes...I am terrified to open them because I don't know what I might see. It's also scary having had big hallucinations in the past, I literally never know what I will see. I think forces of evil do exist (along with good ones) and that people with BP are extra sensitive to these things. I often feel like I am being chased by a negative energy...well almost all the time really. But I don't know why. It sucks feeling afraid during the daytime in your own house. Does anyone else experience that in particular?
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The last time anyone saw a demon round here was 1619, so I am pretty sure they have moved on.
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and that people with BP are extra sensitive to these things. I often feel like I am being chased by a negative energy...well almost all the time really. But I don't know why. It sucks feeling afraid during the daytime in your own house. Does anyone else experience that in particular?
my struggle was paranoia,, a t helped me understand it was JUST paranoia and the fear completely dropped away... I used to be so afraid i would care a gun in my own house... looking back now it seems so over the top but living it is was as real as the nose on my face.... I pray you find peace.....
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Superstitious people with limited knowledge and understanding believe in evil spirits.
They are deluded. They will insist that evil spirits (demons) are real because they suffer from DELUSIONS.
What makes matters worse is that it is a mass delusion; hence those who suffer from it reinforce each others belief.
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I think evil exists. There is good and bad in the world. I have felt the brush of evil before, its frightening.

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There is evil in the world.... there is good in the world..... I have seen both, and survived.... but Evil does exist.... in the form of Demons?? I don't know.... But look at the world, look what is being done to others in other countries for who knows why.... that is evil......
There is always an opposite, so if there is good, then evil must exist
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Evil is evil, good is good.

My demons is that MI has ruined my life, and life goes on.
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I'm kind of amazed that you posted this because this is something that I think about on a daily basis. I had a Christian person tell me I was possessed a few years ago based on the fact that I have BP and I've never really let it go. I almost always feel a presence with me or feel like there's someone watching me. It's the kind of thing where if I close my eyes...I am terrified to open them because I don't know what I might see. It's also scary having had big hallucinations in the past, I literally never know what I will see. I think forces of evil do exist (along with good ones) and that people with BP are extra sensitive to these things. I often feel like I am being chased by a negative energy...well almost all the time really. But I don't know why. It sucks feeling afraid during the daytime in your own house. Does anyone else experience that in particular?
Someone told you that you're possessed because you have bp? Wow. I guess we're all possessed on this board. Lol!

When I get really depressed, I have these hallucinations where I see what I call shadow people (like they're just black human forms), usually out of the corners of my vision, or on the side of the street while I'm driving, etc. Except for one time when I was at the store and I looked up and one of them was standing right in front of me. They don't really scare me, but that startled me because it was right in front of me, and I had to close my eyes. Luckily when I reopened them it was gone.

I only see them though when I'm depressed.

Amazingly enough during my last episode, when I was all psychotic, I didn't see them.

They're different than the things staring at me when I'm having a paranoia situation though, or the dark things I see in the trees, etc. (All paranoia)

I don't know. I don't know what the point of this really is.

I just really related to your response.
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I hope you feel better

My boyfriend and I both have bipolar 1 and I showed your post to him. He said, well that means unicorns aren't off the map. (Just a bit of humor and trying to put a smile on your face.)

I'm thinking about you.
This made me chuckle. Thanks.

For some reason it made me think of this meme that I saw on facebook one time that had a picture of a mermaid, with the text, when I grow up I want to become a mermaid.

It pertained to people who want to be writers when they grow up, and how impossible it is to make it as one.

Just made me think of that for some reason. Lol.
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Evil is evil, good is good.

My demons is that MI has ruined my life, and life goes on.
I am sorry you feel DID has ruined your life.... it is what saved mine.

I refuse to accept it is an MI..... and I refuse to accept that I cannot cope or survive.... it just sucks at times....

and yes, my mother use to accuse me of being possessed, and called a preacher from the church to try and cast them out... didn't work out too well....

My life is much better that I live 2000 miles from home and control the situation when I visit. There is a reason I have DID.... like I said, evil is evil.... I refuse to let it ruin my life.... Always Changing, I hope some day you will find peace and comfort..... Life is hard and a DX like DID sucks.....

My question to my therapist is always... when does a "creative coping skill of a child" turn into a MI... I refuse to admit that something that saved me and helped me cope and live is an MI. Do I want to be whole and one yes, am I haunted by my past YES.... but the ones who caused me to be creative enough to acquire the skill to dissociate are Evil...... not me.... Wow! I can't believe I just said that..... hmmmm maybe therapy is working this time...
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I am sorry you feel DID has ruined your life.... it is what saved mine.

I refuse to accept it is an MI..... and I refuse to accept that I cannot cope or survive.... it just sucks at times....

and yes, my mother use to accuse me of being possessed, and called a preacher from the church to try and cast them out... didn't work out too well....

My life is much better that I live 2000 miles from home and control the situation when I visit. There is a reason I have DID.... like I said, evil is evil.... I refuse to let it ruin my life.... Always Changing, I hope some day you will find peace and comfort..... Life is hard and a DX like DID sucks.....

My question to my therapist is always... when does a "creative coping skill of a child" turn into a MI... I refuse to admit that something that saved me and helped me cope and live is an MI. Do I want to be whole and one yes, am I haunted by my past YES.... but the ones who caused me to be creative enough to acquire the skill to dissociate are Evil...... not me.... Wow! I can't believe I just said that..... hmmmm maybe therapy is working this time...
Thank you Lindsey, I better rephrase this as 18 years of abuse ruined my life, DID is the end result. Being fragmented and untreated bipolar though, I was lost and confused for many years to come, to live the life of a roaming addict/alcoholic with a useless 3.6 GPA and a death wish.

This is exactly how I see it. Even today I still experience the multiplicity of reality, but at least we're aware and have something that kinda resembles direction.

Talking about possession, most of the time when an other takes over, it feels like possession. Imagine that.

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Thank you Lindsey, I better rephrase this as 18 years of abuse ruined my life, DID is the end result. Being fragmented and untreated bipolar though, I was lost and confused for many years to come, to live the life of a roaming addict/alcoholic with a useless 3.6 GPA and a death wish.

This is exactly how I see it. Even today I still experience the multiplicity of reality, but at least we're aware and have something that kinda resembles direction.

Talking about possession, most of the time when an other takes over, it feels like possession. Imagine that.
Always Changing, I truly understand..... When I first saw this thread, it kind of triggered me, but I was intrigued to see what the conversation was, so I ventured to open and read it.

I hope that you are able to find peace.. even if they are brief moments, savor them... try not to focus on the other thoughts and "craziness" that is.... we are not possessed and we are not evil.... we have had evil done to us... but we are survivors and someday we will look back and be grateful that we had the coping skills to survive, so later in life we could thrive and live, hoping for peace to come your way soon

To the OP, No I don't think that Demons exist. I think there is Evil, no doubt about it. My spouse (of 20 years) at times feels that he see's shadows and demons, he has been dx'd with BPD and Paranoia, (we make quite the pair).... Have you talked with your therapist about these fears?
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I'm having a really bad paranoia/anxiety attack right now that I'm trying to ignore, but it's hard because it feels like there's something cold on my back, just resting on it. It feels heavy. It won't go away.

What if demons do exist?

What if I'm becoming possessed?

I looked at myself in the mirror before and I didn't recognize the person staring back at me through my own eyes. It was something evil.

I don't know why I'm being assaulted by all of this negative energy. I try not to be negative in my everyday life. I try to exert positive energy. I guess I need to do more. I need to make more positive energy.

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That was me last night. I'm doing okay tonight though, for now.

But do you believe that demons exist?

Or could some negative energy just ball and condense itself into a massive entity of some sort?
I don't think you are becoming ...possessed.. quite honestly, I have felt the same thing, but I find it is deep depression or I am dissociating... possibly this is what Is happening to you?

If you have chosen, for whatever reason not to have a therapist, have you asked your primary care doctor about medicine to help depression? It won't help the dissociation, but does help with depression. I take Viibryd and Welbutrin along with Klonopin when I have a serious anxiety attack (I don't take it as often as I use to)... I hate being on meds, but for now, as I come to terms with why I dissociate and feel the darkness at times, it helps me to cope and deal with what has haunted me my whole life so I can face the future with hope and no longer look back with dread.

Please know I don't think you are possessed, nor do I think there are demons, but I do believe at times the darkness and dissociation can make you feel that way. Sometimes we put off our own negative energy, when we try and suppress and hide from our past.. many times we don't even know we are doing it.

I do know that my horses have such a powerful positive energy that when I am around them, even for a short time, I feel so much more positive.. it is one of the few times I actually feel free and at total peace when I am with them. Animals are loving and very therapeutic. Do you have any animals that help you to feel safe and calm?

Hang in there... life is good and worth living.....
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Respectfully speaking to everyone, demons do not exist. I think it is Mental illness.
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