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Old Feb 27, 2016, 04:51 PM
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Recently I've been under a lot of stress in the midst of a mixed episode.

But this is a symptom I haven't had in a few years and it's scaring me. The voices are more complex this time, instead of just hearing my name being called; the voice sounds like a male and I can't pinpoint whose voice it is, but it's being demeaning. I can't remember what it says all the time, but the first one I heard scared the living **** out of me. It said "Wattsherfayce you're a huge disappointment (or dipshit- I can't recall I just remember it starting with 'D')".

Luckily I see my therapist on Monday but I'm scared of going inpatient. My therapist has been pushing me to go to a crisis center, but I'm too scared to hear that they have no beds (so lucky to have one in my city- I know many of you don't have access to such a safe place). They work with the local hospital and I'm scared if I go there that they will also make me go inpatient.

I'm scared of going inpatient because I know they will want to put me on antipsychotics- I am very much against using them. I tried Risperidone- a low dose of .5mg - and now I'm dealing with tardive dysphonia. I don't know if it's going away. They are looking to do a surgery to do a biopsy on my voice box.

Does anyone else hear voices outside their head? How do you deal with it without taking medication? I've been using all the tools I know from DBT but they aren't working much.
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Old Feb 27, 2016, 05:13 PM
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I had a very similar experience during a dysphoric hypomania. I also heard an unidentifiable voice, it was saying I was stupid. I heard it with my ears. One of the weirdest experiences I've had.

I just remember sitting there quietly knowing I had just had a clear auditory hallucination without drugs for the first time ever. I put myself to bed to lay & rest as I figure it has something to do with sleep deprivation. So perhaps take a prn sedative & try to get some sleep?

I think it's important to maintain in your mind that it is just a hallucination, it is not real, it is not true, it exists only in your mind & a mind in distress doesn't perceive things like it normally would.

I wasn't made inpatient when I told my Dr these things as I was aware, as you currently are, that it was a hallucination. You need IP if you are losing the ability to tell what's real & what's not or your feeling unsafe, barring that they can't keep you unwillingly. I hope this helps ((hugs))
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Old Feb 27, 2016, 05:38 PM
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Recently I've been under a lot of stress in the midst of a mixed episode.

But this is a symptom I haven't had in a few years and it's scaring me. The voices are more complex this time, instead of just hearing my name being called; the voice sounds like a male and I can't pinpoint whose voice it is, but it's being demeaning. I can't remember what it says all the time, but the first one I heard scared the living **** out of me. It said "Wattsherfayce you're a huge disappointment (or dipshit- I can't recall I just remember it starting with 'D')".

Luckily I see my therapist on Monday but I'm scared of going inpatient. My therapist has been pushing me to go to a crisis center, but I'm too scared to hear that they have no beds (so lucky to have one in my city- I know many of you don't have access to such a safe place). They work with the local hospital and I'm scared if I go there that they will also make me go inpatient.

I'm scared of going inpatient because I know they will want to put me on antipsychotics- I am very much against using them. I tried Risperidone- a low dose of .5mg - and now I'm dealing with tardive dysphonia. I don't know if it's going away. They are looking to do a surgery to do a biopsy on my voice box.

Does anyone else hear voices outside their head? How do you deal with it without taking medication? I've been using all the tools I know from DBT but they aren't working much.
It sounds easier than it is, but just try to register the voices, register the experience but try to think absolutely nothing of it other than thinking of it as a phenomenon, something that just happened, no questions asked. Strange. Not to worry. Move on.

It doesn't mean anything, it just happens. It can happen to the best of us.

I would only go inpatient if it really interferes with your functioning (other than making you anxious at the moment). For example, if it becomes impossible to distinguish between these voices and other real voices, again to the extent that it impacts your functioning.

If it happens continuously, or for long times repeatedly, have you tried listening to (loud) music. You could use earphones, much of the day if you have to.

Maybe it passes and it was a one-time thing (it may return, but years later, it happens).

If antipsychotics really aren't an option, I would suggest using anything to lower your anxiety. Use meds if you have to, for that. If it is dependent on your mood, a change of mood stabiliser may be in order.

Hope it just goes away again or you can just leave it for what it is: a strange, but itself innocent phenomenon.
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Old Feb 27, 2016, 06:01 PM
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I've been struggling with suicidal ideations for weeks now. and online bully who I know in real life- they know where I live and he's gone to jail for physoicaly assaulting women. This be sound stupid but I'm scared- I haven't left my apartment in a week.

When I hear things I ask my SO "did you say....?" and he says he hasn't said anything. I havent been eating or sleeping. I can't tell if they are real, and whn they happen I try my best to brush it off especially when my SO isnt around. But I get so confused. I tri to think and it's jumbled up. I cant focus, my head hurts sooooo much. I tri to distract myself with Netflix- its always on. Im trying to watch UFC now but I cant focus.

I just want to take a whole bottle of benzos and go to sleep (and hopefully never wake up) but I dont want to end up in the hospital. I'm so scared all the time, I cant sleep when I do it's bad dreams or night terrors.

I'm on 500mg divalproex 150mg Lyrica .5mg xanax
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Old Feb 27, 2016, 06:15 PM
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I've been struggling with suicidal ideations for weeks now. and online bully who I know in real life- they know where I live and he's gone to jail for physoicaly assaulting women. This be sound stupid but I'm scared- I haven't left my apartment in a week.

When I hear things I ask my SO "did you say....?" and he says he hasn't said anything. I havent been eating or sleeping. I can't tell if they are real, and whn they happen I try my best to brush it off especially when my SO isnt around. But I get so confused. I tri to think and it's jumbled up. I cant focus, my head hurts sooooo much. I tri to distract myself with Netflix- its always on. Im trying to watch UFC now but I cant focus.

I just want to take a whole bottle of benzos and go to sleep (and hopefully never wake up) but I dont want to end up in the hospital. I'm so scared all the time, I cant sleep when I do it's bad dreams or night terrors.

I'm on 500mg divalproex 150mg Lyrica .5mg xanax
It seems to me delusions may be your biggest problem and the voices just add up to that. You may not realise it, but could that be true be? In my experience, persecutory or other delusions with a immediate negative impact are usually by far the more potent adversary. Hallucinations can just come on at the same time because you are far too anxious.

Who can you contact to discuss whether and under which conditions you'd agree to go inpatient (maybe talk about the details later if you are worried about involuntary admission)?

Maybe antipsychotics are still your best bet, but just to "kill" possible delusional thinking for now and only now. Antipsychotics don't have to be used for maintenance therapy.
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Old Feb 27, 2016, 06:26 PM
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I just got out if ip for psychosis with hallucinations and delusions and paranoia. aP helped me get through it then dr let me stop iy
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Old Feb 27, 2016, 06:49 PM
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It seems to me delusions may be your biggest problem and the voices just add up to that. You may not realise it, but could that be true be? In my experience, persecutory or other delusions with a immediate negative impact are usually by far the more potent adversary. Hallucinations can just come on at the same time because you are far too anxious.

Who can you contact to discuss whether and under which conditions you'd agree to go inpatient (maybe talk about the details later if you are worried about involuntary admission)?

Maybe antipsychotics are still your best bet, but just to "kill" possible delusional thinking for now and only now. Antipsychotics don't have to be used for maintenance therapy.
Delusions? I don't get what is making me seem so?

I can call the crisis line if anything, Monday I see my therapist. I can't take antipsychotics without getting severe movement disorders. I can't talk because of trying one damn dose- over 5 months ago I haven't been able to recover my voice so I refuse to take one. The closest to an antipsychotic I'm ok with is Lithium.
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Old Feb 27, 2016, 09:33 PM
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I agree with the other posters, try to remember the voices are hallucinations and just that and focus on reality. "This is not really happening." I can keep that mindset these days as long as the voices don't interact with me. Then it is time for a prn. While my prn is an antipsychotic, you could always ask for a benzo. That may help to some degree.
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Old Feb 28, 2016, 04:30 AM
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Delusions? I don't get what is making me seem so?

I can call the crisis line if anything, Monday I see my therapist. I can't take antipsychotics without getting severe movement disorders. I can't talk because of trying one damn dose- over 5 months ago I haven't been able to recover my voice so I refuse to take one. The closest to an antipsychotic I'm ok with is Lithium.
If you haven't left your apartment purely because of fear, it could be delusional. It doesn't have to be, but it could be. There's no requirement that what you believe is totally unfounded, just somewhat unfounded: you assuming or concluding just a bit too much, but with possibly severe consequences.

I would suggest talking to someone (preferably a psychiatrist or NP) about it other than your SO. Love and admiration or trust in someone, can make people vulnerable to share a delusion, even if they wouldn't have one spontaneously themselves.
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Old Feb 28, 2016, 07:14 AM
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Hi What- I only hear things in dreams.
It does seem to me from what you've said that you've got a lot more going on than the voices.
I'm glad you see someone next week. Fear creates more fear so it needs to be nipped in the bud.
Can you drive? I go over to the beauty college and have my bangs trimmed. Then to savers to look for a silk scarf or a nice dress that's not polyester.

Are you with someone? Can a friend go with you?
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Old Feb 28, 2016, 08:04 AM
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Hi What- I only hear things in dreams.
It does seem to me from what you've said that you've got a lot more going on than the voices.
I'm glad you see someone next week. Fear creates more fear so it needs to be nipped in the bud.
Can you drive? I go over to the beauty college and have my bangs trimmed. Then to savers to look for a silk scarf or a nice dress that's not polyester.

Are you with someone? Can a friend go with you?

I don't drive anymore. My cognitive functions go out the window. I know the city like the back of my hand on my best days, but on days like lately I don't even know how to get home let alone how I ended up on the other side of town without remembering how I got there. Too dangerous.
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I don't have to survive this week,
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But if I can get through this moment,
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Old Feb 28, 2016, 08:56 AM
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Oh honey. I feel for you.
I lose my way easy now too, since my brain was fried with ECT.
What is your favorite activity?
Do you like to cook?
Have a pet?
Are you a writer or artist?
If it's too stressful , you need not answer questions. I'm wanting to help you. Sending much love.
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