[~Christina]

Originally Posted by Miguel'smom

Why do you say she’s frustrated with you? I highly doubt it, I think it’s more your “ thinking” she is. She thinks I enable to much. I'm not raising my son right. (which with the thing she says I doubt she has kids).

Maybe she is spot on, now that she mentioned it pay attention to how you interact she might be on to something you just have never thought of.

[Victoria'smom]

I'll keep an eye out but her view on age "appropiate" is off. I don't feel he needs to get up on his own, cook breakfast and dinner for himself, have time management down. He's 16 he'd sleep all day if he could, have raman for breakfast and dinner, and have no motivation to do anything but games. I mean other kids are forced to be in school for 6+ hour not managing their time. Why would my son be any different?

[~Christina]

Maybe just pick a couple things he will be responsible for ? Maybe washing his own clothes? Certain chores around the house , take out garbage ? Just small obtainable “ things he can be responsible for. Just a thought

[Victoria'smom]

He cleans his bathroom, does his laundry, dishes, takes out trash, gets the mail, pick ups feeds the dog, takes her out and pick ups after her. He needs to clean his bedroom and bathroom more often.

[~Christina]

Then see if he can get up and do his homework on his own schedule. These are all skills he will need when he heads to college

[Victoria'smom]

Miguel and I had a conversation with him. He’s depression and feeling overwhelmed by starting school again. We went through his options and why school is important. That maybe his life won't look like others work. He may work as a short time contractor, part time work or freelance. What he could do with his extra money. He doesn't have to work in a stressful environment. He can get a degree with a concentration of a hobby. He was almost in tears if he can’t do dual enrollment at home then he can’t handle university and certainty he won't succeed at work. If he doesn’t get into university he won’t go I don’t think. We have 1.5 years before that time.

He is so relieved to have options. I’ve been telling him he has options and he has more options if he takes out more loans but last night it hit him. That he wasn’t failing us. That it is truly is his choice. He felt we were just saying it. That he was destin to get a job that sucks in his chosen field and work just to pay bills. Now he’s making a schedule/budget of things he wants to do (driving distance) and we made his resume. I’m so proud of him. He even made an alarm with him talking to his future self about not giving up.

[~Christina]

Great news !!!

[Victoria'smom]

So pdoc thinks homeschooling was/is the problem but gave Miguel 10mg of prozac to try and wants to see him in a month. He wasn't honest with pdoc because he didn't want to seem "over dramatic." I didn't say anything because it was his appointment. He then saw his T and told her the truth and there were talks of hospitalization, and med compliance. He's going to group 2x a month and seeing T between that.

We talked about how he need to tell the truth because they can't help you if they don't know. He later asked me why he's never been hospitalized. I explained that you usually go to the hospital when your scared that you are going to commit suicide but we mostly have the "**** it's Tuesday and I woke up" kinda depression. If he has thoughts that go beyond that he has to tell us or tell T. He wanted to know what happened when we took prozac. I told him "psychosis, that's why you have to tell us if anything at all is weird."

[Victoria'smom]

Can you knowable have psychosis? It feels like I'm always barely on the cusp. Feeling one way knowing it's wrong.

[Victoria'smom]

So I saw Pdoc and she lowered my Zyprexa and put me on prozac. Didn't realize it until I got home that was the exact combination I was on when I was first hospital. Hopefully this time is better.

[BeyondtheRainbow]

Is your husband doing well enough to monitor you for adverse effects from the prozac?

[Victoria'smom]

That's our plan. He watches me if things go bad for me I take my sleeping medication while he get a hold of pdoc.

[~Christina]

Prozac is activating for many people maybe it will help you being more involved

[Victoria'smom]

I hope so. I'm so damn isolated.

[Victoria'smom]

If you see me becoming odd please tell me. I may not believe you but I type things out here long before I my mask slips IRL.

[~Christina]

Originally Posted by Miguel'smom

If you see me becoming odd please tell me. I may not believe you but I type things out here long before I my mask slips IRL.

I sure will

[Victoria'smom]

So they filled and was like your insurance wouldn't pay for it so you owe us $60. Um... did you notify my dr?.... We can do it if you want but it wont be approved because you over 11... YEAH, please contact her.... So you owe us $60... umm can I just get a week?... She huffs and was like give us 20 min... So I screwed up our budget because I'm a ***** who refuses to take pills.

So instead of taking 2.5 milliliters. I'm taking 1 and skipping every 4th day to give me about a months worth of meds until I see pdoc again. So I'll be taking the equivalence of 8 mg a day. I HATE asking my husband to measure things and crush things. It makes me feel just that much worse. I'm almost in tears writing this.

I know I should be okay with it but I guess today was to much for me.

[Wander]

Originally Posted by Miguel'smom

So they filled and was like your insurance wouldn't pay for it so you owe us $60. Um... did you notify my dr?.... We can do it if you want but it wont be approved because you over 11... YEAH, please contact her.... So you owe us $60... umm can I just get a week?... She huffs and was like give us 20 min... So I screwed up our budget because I'm a ***** who refuses to take pills.

So instead of taking 2.5 milliliters. I'm taking 1 and skipping every 4th day to give me about a months worth of meds until I see pdoc again. So I'll be taking the equivalence of 8 mg a day. I HATE asking my husband to measure things and crush things. It makes me feel just that much worse. I'm almost in tears writing this.

I know I should be okay with it but I guess today was to much for me.

This would make me cry. What an unbelievable hassle. I don't understand the US system but this makes no sense.

[Victoria'smom]

The pharmacy didn't even do a prior authorization because the pharmacist decided that no matter what insurance won't pay for it.... Not True..

My doctor can petition the insurance with documentation that the liquid formula is needed... which we all agree it is.

The idea of choking down pills for them to come right back up scares me I hardly took my meds because of that and my new insurance won't pay and my pdoc wants me to just crush pills and take it like that and take them all with food before bed.

[Victoria'smom]

So I realize I was on this EXACT combo when I was first hospitalized. I'm only going to take what I can the 8 mg and talk to my therapist on Wednesday but how can you say I was on this exact combo when

Possible trigger:

I thought angels wanted me to cut at my eyes.

Some times it's easier when you think your T's a moron. I just don't know how to say anything important to this T. I haven't figured it out.

[~Christina]

Okay , back up .......

Just because you were on the exact combo and it was a train wreck in the past doesn’t mean you will react the same.

Your always in a fight to get liquid forms of medications , but why not try swallowing Tic tacs ??! Your always screwing up your already difficult budget. I know about ED , I deal too but i think you should at least WORK on trying to get past the fear.

Or try Shaphis , it’s a dissolvable pill under your tongue? Just a thought.

In the end if your husband has to crush your meds stop getting so damn upset about him helping you. Whats it take 1-8 seconds ...Wouldn’t you do it for him ?

Slap yourself a bit mentally and get back on track of following your meds and keep writing so you will know what to talk to your T about.

[Victoria'smom]

Just because you were on the exact combo and it was a train wreck in the past doesn’t mean you will react the same. What would make that change?

I go after the ODT and liquid versions because I actually take them. I don't think about it/worry about it all day and take them.

Your always screwing up your already difficult budget Unfortunately it's because it's so tight. I honestly wish there was someway we would just get a weekly amount after bills were out.

Saphis My pdoc didn't mention that one. I'm fine with going back on the higher dose ODT of zyprexa. we'll see.

I would certainly crush pills for him especially if it helps him stay stable. I'm thinking of asking my parents to barrow the money for the meds until I see my pdoc again.

[BeyondtheRainbow]

They used to sell generic prozac capsules. Might be worth asking about as you could just dump the capsule on applesauce (assuming your pdoc or pharmacist approves).

[~Christina]

Originally Posted by Miguel'smom

Just because you were on the exact combo and it was a train wreck in the past doesn’t mean you will react the same. What would make that change?


I go after the ODT and liquid versions because I actually take them. I don't think about it/worry about it all day and take them.


Your always screwing up your already difficult budget Unfortunately it's because it's so tight. I honestly wish there was someway we would just get a weekly amount after bills were out.


Saphis My pdoc didn't mention that one. I'm fine with going back on the higher dose ODT of zyprexa. we'll see.


I would certainly crush pills for him especially if it helps him stay stable. I'm thinking of asking my parents to barrow the money for the meds until I see my pdoc again.

Many times old combos can work again it’s just how your brain reacts, and how current drugs have changed your brain chemicals.

As for your budget omg I hear you. Simple way to help is buy a gift card for yourself at a place you may shop , Walmart perhaps? Load a weeks of food money on it.

Savealot doesnt offer them. But take each weeks food budget amount in actual cash and put in 4 different envelopes and seriously only take that amount with you so you just can’t overspend if you get EBT it won’t work but you can still seriously limit food cost weekly.

Make a list and stick to it , period. I know certain food I will use all the time , stock up on those item, canned veggies, pasta, rice ,etc

As for other stuff toilet paper etc plan for that also .. you know you will use TP, shampoo etc each month buy it at the beginning of the month, then you will have it on hand.

It’s hard to stick to a budget , but I had to learn that I just can’t overspend.

I might not like having rice and beans 5 times a month or more but it’s a cheap hearty meal.

I freak out if I can’t put 25-30 bucks away a month for an emergency, but I’d rather have a few dollars than freak out because we have nothing.

I had to learn how to live off what we get. Totally sucks not having money for things. I do not go online even to just browse amazon for instance, too easy to buy something.

I have lots of I “ wants “ but when I take care of the “ needs” I just feel less stress.

Life shouldn’t be so hard but it is.

Glad your ok with your husband taking care of you meds.

You can manage your finances if you just make a budget and not overspend. I have faith in you

Sorry if the above skips around I already took my nite meds lol

[Victoria'smom]

I don't want to go to T tomorrow. I know it's only an hour but it's the most uncomfortable hour ever.