[pat86]

does anyone else have bad or angry memories replay in their head ?

[*Beth*]

Yes, many times every hour. Medication doesn't seem to help much (if at all). I'm working on CBT skills with my therapist. CBT and breath work is as helpful as anything I've tried. Reading is also helpful.

[pat86]

I have found that only focusing on lots of work or being really engaged in conversations helps.

[Fuzzybear]

All the time. And meds do not like me. Yay me

Good conversations can help.

[pat86]

wish I could find something to make it go away

[HALLIEBETH87]

Yes I ruminate every day on the past. I se the DBT skill of mindfulness to focus on the present instead of constantly venturing into my past.

[pat86]

feel like I don't have much control over this replaying in my head.

[MickeyCheeky]

Sorry to hear you're struggling. Do your Pdoc and/or therapist know abotu this? If they don't perhaps this is something worth discussing with them. Sending many safe, warm hugs to BOTH you, @pat86, your Family, your Friends and ALL of your Loved Ones! Keep fighting and keep rocking NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS, OK?! :Grouphug:

[RoxanneToto]

I ruminate a lot, too, it’s horrible. I’ve read about a method of dealing with bad thoughts where you acknowledge it but then let it go. Maybe it works for some, but I think your mileage may vary.

[pat86]

Originally Posted by MickeyCheeky

Sorry to hear you're struggling. Do your Pdoc and/or therapist know abotu this? If they don't perhaps this is something worth discussing with them. Sending many safe, warm hugs to BOTH you, @pat86, your Family, your Friends and ALL of your Loved Ones! Keep fighting and keep rocking NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS, OK?! :Grouphug:

Yes I will discuss it with my doctor thx

[pat86]

Originally Posted by RoxanneToto

I ruminate a lot, too, it’s horrible. I’ve read about a method of dealing with bad thoughts where you acknowledge it but then let it go. Maybe it works for some, but I think your mileage may vary.

Yeah I feel it requires something more strong and powerful then basic therapy or other similar methods

[Fuzzybear]

Originally Posted by RoxanneToto

I ruminate a lot, too, it’s horrible. I’ve read about a method of dealing with bad thoughts where you acknowledge it but then let it go. Maybe it works for some, but I think your mileage may vary.

This helps me a bit sometimes too, I have a guided meditation which I used to listen to which uses this method.

[Fuzzybear]

Sometimes this method might help

GIGO

It stands for

GARBAGE in

GARBAGE out

It can be quite powerful if the thoughts are untrue, and if some of them were programmed into someone by abusive individuals. What these individuals spout is simply garbage and venom (all abusers spout garbage and venom).. it can be hard at times for the ''emotional self'' (or whatever it is called) to feel this. The logical brain knows it... but to feel it inside is not always so easy.

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[scatterbrained04]

I ruminate on past BP episodes. It's tough not to. But I do feel better if I can try to stay in the present.

[pat86]

does everyone think that these thoughts are being caused by mania?

[pat86]

Originally Posted by BethRags

Yes, many times every hour. Medication doesn't seem to help much (if at all). I'm working on CBT skills with my therapist. CBT and breath work is as helpful as anything I've tried. Reading is also helpful.

are your symptoms being caused by mania ?

[pat86]

Originally Posted by Fuzzybear

All the time. And meds do not like me. Yay me

Good conversations can help.

have you found your symptoms being caused by mania?

[pat86]

Originally Posted by HALLIEBETH87

Yes I ruminate every day on the past. I se the DBT skill of mindfulness to focus on the present instead of constantly venturing into my past.

do you find these symptoms are being caused by mania?

[pat86]

Originally Posted by RoxanneToto

I ruminate a lot, too, it’s horrible. I’ve read about a method of dealing with bad thoughts where you acknowledge it but then let it go. Maybe it works for some, but I think your mileage may vary.

do you think mania is causing it?

[MuddyBoots]

I don't think just rumination is mania as plenty of people have this problem without being manic, but if you have other symptoms (like lack of need for sleep and racing thoughts) the "speediness" of mania/mixed episodes might be contributing.

[pat86]

Originally Posted by Sapien

I don't think just rumination is mania as plenty of people have this problem without being manic, but if you have other symptoms (like lack of need for sleep and racing thoughts) the "speediness" of mania/mixed episodes might be contributing.

sometimes I do have racing thoughts. Oh what I would do to just have stillness in my mind.

[TishaBuv]

Originally Posted by pat86

does everyone think that these thoughts are being caused by mania?

I ruminate over bad things that happened that are deeply disturbing. I was not diagnosed BP. Much of the issues have run their course, and I no longer ruminate about them. Either I worked it out with the other person, or I reframed my thinking in order to cope and move on from the unfixable situation. It feels so incredibly freeing to me to have been able to stop the rumination!

My only triggers were interpersonal events that were really upsetting. I do not feel deeply and ruminate, in general, about things that did not directly involve me and that I have no control to repair or cope with.

I put in a lot of effort and deeply cared about the discord with the issues I’ve had with my relationships that went into the ditch. My efforts either helped us get closer, or were to no avail and I accepted the outcomes, knowing I did what I could. That makes me feel good about myself, how I gave it the effort because I cared. I was proactive. Good or bad outcome, I still feel empowered because I stepped up (even though in my case the other person did not).

Feeling like you love yourself and have done your best is great for accepting whatever someone else tries to do to hurt you or simply doesn’t care. That’s on them.

Also, in moving on from someone who was hurtful and didn’t care to repair, if you can find a way to see their personal weakness and feel sorry for them, it helps stops the hurt, anger, and causes for rumination.

The ruminating is due to something unresolved. Closure is the solution for it.

[pat86]

Originally Posted by TishaBuv

I ruminate over bad things that happened that are deeply disturbing. I was not diagnosed BP. Much of the issues have run their course, and I no longer ruminate about them. Either I worked it out with the other person, or I reframed my thinking in order to cope and move on from the unfixable situation. It feels so incredibly freeing to me to have been able to stop the rumination!

My only triggers were interpersonal events that were really upsetting. I do not feel deeply and ruminate, in general, about things that did not directly involve me and that I have no control to repair or cope with.

I put in a lot of effort and deeply cared about the discord with the issues I’ve had with my relationships that went into the ditch. My efforts either helped us get closer, or were to no avail and I accepted the outcomes, knowing I did what I could. That makes me feel good about myself, how I gave it the effort because I cared. I was proactive. Good or bad outcome, I still feel empowered because I stepped up (even though in my case the other person did not).

Feeling like you love yourself and have done your best is great for accepting whatever someone else tries to do to hurt you or simply doesn’t care. That’s on them.

Also, in moving on from someone who was hurtful and didn’t care to repair, if you can find a way to see their personal weakness and feel sorry for them, it helps stops the hurt, anger, and causes for rumination.

The ruminating is due to something unresolved. Closure is the solution for it.

I think mine might be related to mental illness and a chemical imbalance in my mind.

[TishaBuv]

Yet you are thinking about bad memories of things that really happened. Have you had some bad memories that you have moved on from and others that have not healed which drives the ruminating?