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On the days that I feel more robust, I actually search the threads, not by title but by number of responses, as I assume that everyone that makes any effort to post on here has a need for contact as I know I do. I value the more challenging posts on here too and I have received some great insights from you, but I think there are times when I may find such tough challenges more difficult - for example on a low day reading your thread, I may go into a whole negative thing of how awful my threads are, that I am not wanted / liked etc.. of course on good days I can rationalise this and be interested in your views. Many thanks - Soup
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Perhaps there is a rather simple solution. If the title does not get you saying, "Oh boy! Oh boy! Oh boy, Oh boy, Oh boy!!", do not click on it.
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"Most members of PC are not only willing, but anxious, to help all those who present themselves here as desperately in pain and sorely in need of intelligent, sympathetic advice. At the same time, some members of PC appear to want to use their desire to be of service not only to bolster their own feelings about themselves but to declare themselves superior to those not as seriously devoted (they think) as themselves to the welfare of others.
I suppose that having a certain percentage of such self-satisfied, puffed-up members is expectable in any human activity with philanthropic aims. Which doesn't mean to say that their self-attributed airs and graces need be taken seriously by their less inflated co-members who, while doing exactly the same things, don't insistently demand recognition of the absolute purity of their motives or the superiority of their devotion." ~quote Ygre23 Ugh, you mean to say there are politicians here too? LOL Wow, that is pretty judgemental of you. Yes, I suppose there are some narcissits around and yes, I have seen some highly opinionated posts. But I have to say some of what these posts say have some good advice and a different way to view things. I have even seen some posts made by those that claim to be psychopaths and I found their views informative as well. And I have even asked questions and received amazingly candid and honest answers. And to be honest I want to meet them all, I am pretty sure I have outside PC so I might as well be triggered and tested here. And I can assure you I have. And to be honest, for the short time I have been here and the distance I have come so far I can thank both the positive as well as the negetive. And unfortunately no one here can see how things effect me and how sometimes I can get triggered and suffer through a whole day of unbelievable anxiety and stress. But, in order for me to understand the things that truely bother or even frighten me, I have to actually address it. And I would rather find that out in the comfort of my own home than outside PC where I am taken by surprise and had no practice on how to deal with that type of scenario. Anyone and everyone is bound to have a mixed review in respect to their input. But there is also a way to click on that name and possibly see a disorder of somekind that my lay out the reason for that person's statements as well as those that react to those statements. And in that, there is much to learn and ponder. Too bad it isn't like that outside PC. But this experience "Can" lend to a better understanding of those that we encounter outside PC. I "HAVE" seen some members start threads that are very informative and extremely helpful in many different situations (and they have had catchy titles). And I am very thankful for those threads and they have been a good source of debate as well as sometimes a place where opinions may clash a little. But it is interesting even then to see the different views. Overall from what I have seen, though members make mistakes and may even be very verbal or not, the site is very friendly, supportive, and helpful to many. It is interesting to consider a catchy title, but most people that come here are not writers, they bravely take steps to ask a question and hope to be enlightened. Open Eyes Last edited by Open Eyes; Sep 08, 2011 at 06:20 PM. |
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I know I have joked here. And this morning I posted to a thread and it suddenly dawned on me what motivates me to click on a thread. And to be honest, up until this suggestion I had not really thought about how to present a thread and maybe using a catchy title to draw in comments. And Ygre23, it was interesting to see how your mere suggestion was contemplated and there were a lot of different reactions to that suggestion, including my own.
And I didn't think it was a paticularly offensive suggestion that you presented. But your thread took a turn and "YOU" were the one that turned it. And I did cite that turn. And I sited that because I felt your comment was uncalled for and a simple suggestion became a statment of judgement about how people respond to threads and how they post. And because it is your thread and you did add that to "YOUR" thread I want to really comment on it, give you my opinion of your statment. And after thinking about it more this morning, I realized a few things. Personally, when I came to PC I was in such a personal emotional battle that the only thing I wanted was a place to find support. I was very lonely, very scared and very confused. And, in no way did any kind of catchy thread title enter my mind in any way, I was not in any condition to think about that. And I have to say that a lot of people that are new here are often desperate, lonely, frightened and very lost. And in almost every attempt at asking for help and guidance there is some form of an appology. And in my first days here I was really moved and I saw a lot of sadness and cries for help. And I didn't really know what to think, and yet I was one of those cries. And one of the things that I wanted to see was why I was so misunderstood and why was I in the place or state of mind I was in. And the only thing I could think of was to just put myself out there and see what kind of response I got. That was really my personal way using PC. So I made attempts to just be me as much as I could, given my intense condition of battling and trying to understand the severe case of PTSD that I had. And I was struggling to even understand PTSD and what it was, what it meant, why do I have it. And little by little I slowly learned. But what did I look for in a thread title? It didn't really hit me until this morning. I was looking for "CORE" questions. Because, what I was dealing with and saw other people struggling with as well, were questions and concerns revolving around "PERSONAL CORE ISSUES AND STRUGGLES". And all this time I was looking for these titles that touched on my own "PERSONAL CORE STRUGGLES" but I wasn't "CONSCIOUSLY" "AWARE OF THAT". And, whenever I post, in case you haven't noticed, I do have a lot to say, BUT, that is because of my "PERSONAL CORE HISTORY". And for every post that I make in reply to another's question, "PART OF THEIR QUESTION IS A QUESTION THAT I HAVE TOO IN SOME WAY". And, my personal history, my personal "CORE" has had a lot to do with addressing the "ISSUES OF OTHERS" on many different levels, including a level where I had to learn a lot "JUST TO SURVIVE". I do not know you Ygre23 on a personal level. But I have come to know others on a personal level here and I have also taken the time to pay attention to not only "THEIR CORE ISSUES", but, "THE MANY DIFFERNENT LITTLE THINGS THEY SAY THAT TELL ME THEIR PERSONAL STRUGGLE". And because of my own "LIFE STRUGGLES" I can often feel where that person is, and understand where that person is. And I can also see how others are often "MISUNDERSTOOD" because of the way they struggle. And one thing I DO know is that I TOO have been misunderstood many times in my life. Other people have often "ASSUMED I WAS SOMETHING THAT I WAS NOT". And to be honest? When you wrote that criticism about some people thinking they are superior in their posts, I did wonder if you were talking about me. And I did not wonder that because I feel superior in any way, I wondered that because I have been accused of that in my past and I do know that it was not "MY ISSUE" BUT "SOMEONE ELSES ISSUE" that presented that opinion. And I had to learn that in very "UNPLEASANT WAYS". I do not wish to stand in judgement of you Ygre23, and I do not know you nor have I been following your "PERSONAL JOURNEY" here at PC. But the statement you made in your thread was pretty "HARSH". And, I think you really have to consider "WHERE YOU ARE WHILE MAKING THIS STATEMENT". Do you really follow the little statements that are made here and there that represent significant clues about the members here? Well, you may not know how to do that, it may be something you need to think about, something you overlook and are not really consciously aware of it. I have had to do just that for as long as I can remember, not in a very nice way, so maybe I am more astute than you are. But, when anyone comes forward and states a condition, disorder, issue, personal struggle, I have to consider and "RESPECT" the admissions of what that person is becoming aware of that is their own "PERSONAL FAULTS or BAD HABITS or ANYTHING THEY KNOW THEY ARE DOING WRONG SOMEHOW". Because, to me, that is a "BIG DEAL" and it tells me that someone is "TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO OVERCOME THEIR OWN FAULTS OR MISPERCEPTIONS OR LACK OF ABILITY ON ANY SOCIAL LEVEL". And I "HAVE" and "WILL CONTINUE TO STATE THAT I TOO AM A PERSON IN REPAIR AND I ALREADY KNOW I AM STRUGGLING TOO AND THAT I AM NOT PERFECT IN ANY WAY OR WISH TO CONSIDER THAT I AM ABOVE ANY OTHER PERSON WHO ALSO IS STRUGGLING". I will make efforts to defend my personal core, but I do consider as much as possible the core issues of the other member here at PC. And if I am somehow presented with a statement that I have offended another person in some way, I do try to find out what I said or did that caused that to happen. And I do try to make an effort to come to an understanding with that other person. Does it always come out well? No, but I at least try to make that effort for both me and that other person. And the only other thing I will do is defend someone who is trying to address their issue and somehow they are picked on, because I don't like that, everyone deserves to "TRY". So, perhaps you can reread your statement that I did point out earlier and really think about what that statement means in a place where it is well known that everyone here is addressing "PERSONAL CORE ISSUES". Again, I do not know you, nor am I standing in judgement of you as a person Ygre23, and I am sure that you struggle with your own personal issues as well, but I am questioning your statement and it's harshness. Open Eyes Last edited by Open Eyes; Sep 09, 2011 at 07:15 PM. |
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![]() I agree though. I look through the new posts. There are often forums I don't venture into because I feel I would be sticking my nose where it doesn't belong. We do however discourage cross posting and I have read very few posts that fit only into one forum. Sometimes a title can tell me that this need could also be in a place where I have more to offer and so I try. No, PC is not a popularity contest or a marketing class... BUT it is helpful for people to at least be aware of how titles are received here. IMO
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You are always offering your help Omers, your a good poster and always very supportive, I like reading your posts and thinking about what you have to say.
And I guess controversay will always take place and can even be a draw. And I don't always think it is bad because there is always an opportunity to learn in every interaction. Open Eyes |
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You can't judge a book by its cover.
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I apologize to all of you folks. In starting this thread I didn't approach it correctly. I didn't approach it correctly in the sense that what I said in the first post didn't really correspond to what I was thinking very well. I overemphasized what is in reality a very minor point, though I still think that very minor point would have value to several PC members. And the words I used were just inappropriate for the PC community. So because of my choice of words and my overemphasis, my post was read to say things I really didn't intend to say.
What I should have said was simply: "Some thread titles don't give a clue to what the OP is saying in their post. OP's may want to write more informative thread titles to make it easier for people to find posts to which they'd like to respond." And that's it. That's all I really wanted to say. Take care! ![]()
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And you're right, thread titles aren't a terribly important aspect of what goes on here on PC. They're quite a minor matter. I overemphasized their importance in my postings here and am sorry I did so. I was shouting when conversational tones would have been the only appropriate manner in which to refer to this issue. I do think that people should spend an extra ten seconds on the title when they're opening a thread, but it's by no means a big deal. As far as underlining in red, I do love to use the colors available here and would really enjoy reading other people's colorful posts. Take care! ![]()
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If anything Ygre23 what you did do is see that you made an error. And you provided an example in that you didn't just feel hurt and abandoned by others and yourself and "RUN". And many people do just that, they make a statement, it is misunderstood depending on the struggle of another and sometimes both just "RUN" and opt out of PC. And that is not working through a personal struggle and trying to learn and improve. And in the struggle with any diagnoses that conveys a disorder,
there is often many ways a person can be misunderstood not only by others but themselves. If anything what your thread did unintentionally is provide an example of how one can be misunderstood and how others can be very offended. And one thing about having any kind of disorder or issue is that people who struggle are often very misunderstood by others and even themselves. I can definitely raise my hand on that one. When I came here, I was misunderstood and hurt by that, because I was also being misunderstood outside PC, even confused myself about my issue. And JD helped me a lot with that and she has pointed it out in your other thread. Some are 8 years old and some are 5 and at different stages on the road and some are further ahead on that road than others, and it doesn't make one better than the other, they are just at different points on the road. Now it is understood that your intention was more about how a person might receive better help or more attention by thinking about what that person can put up as the heading of a thread. And you did receive a mixed reaction to that suggestion. But what really happened is that everyone revisited that road and where each person is on that road and what it means to be on that road. And there can be many times that someone may get hurt and misunderstood and think about "running" and that they don't deserve to be on any road. Well here we see that is just not true, everyone deserves to be on that road and take steps in whatever way they can or even have to stop and think about the steps they have taken and what it means. I would say that not all threads are going to be answered, no matter what the heading is. Many times people are so busy on their own road they might not see the sign of another. And it doesn't mean the sign wasn't important or catchy enough, all it means is that we are in a place where people are struggling to understand what their personal struggle means and it is always very challenging. If anything both of your threads have given members a reminder that we are in a place where many people truely struggle and it is very important to try to respect that and truely keep it in mind. This is a road that many are traveling and all are struggling and it is all around the world. You have admitted some things yourself Ygre23. Are some overly judgemental, maybe so, but we do have to consider that it may just be a part of their personal struggle. And it may be something that person has yet to recognise and learn. But we also have to consider the source and that can be very challenging indeed. I can see that you are an intelligent person, someone who did not have the ability to socialize for whatever reason, but you were misunderstood by others and yourself, you have learned something and are open to learning more. That is a good example of how to "DO THE WORK" that many often say has to be done to heal and improve one's self. One of the messages I look for is when someone is conveying their faults. That is a very important part of each persons journey to bettering themselves. And as I have said, sometimes it is almost a whisper from that person. And because I have had a lot of my own whispers ever since I can remember, I do hear the whispers, I do understand the struggle. And I have worked with a lot of children that are beginning their whispers, I have even worked with horses and other animals that have their whispers. And I DO know that if those whispers are addressed properly, there is room for a tremendous amount of growth. For me, it is something I have actually seen take place, it is not just and invisible thing that can be a blind faith. Especially with horses that have come to me abused in some way, often I don't even get to hear a history, I am only presented with the way the horse reacts to different situations. And because that horse cannot talk I have to really think about what their body language is saying, very difficult. And each horse, like each human is very unique. And I can say with real experience that in each case it takes a lot of time and patience but these animals can learn to overcome. Well, if an animal whose brain is the size of a walnut can do it, surely a human can learn to do the same. I may have repeated some thoughts here, I can do that, but it can be re-enforcing for both me and another member to ponder and find reason to hang in there and let themselves progress and be at ease with the process as you have stated this is something new. When something is in writing it is there to revisit and think about something we have said and if makes sense and is fair and respectful of others. Open Eyes Last edited by Open Eyes; Sep 13, 2011 at 12:03 PM. |
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I've found this to be a "pattern" in online communities in general. No matter what I call it, sometimes I get little or no responses. And since new ones are always being started (including by myself of course), that bumps the thread further down in the forums...making it less noticeable.
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Unanswered Threads
Click the search tab and then click Unanswered Threads. Doesn't matter what the thread title is, just leave a supportive reply.
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I recently started two threads about the same time. One got a lot of responses that are still coming in, and the other got none at all. The one that had none was the one I thought people would more likely respond to than the other one.
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A very wise man told me that often people may read something and have to digest it for a while before they can even begin to have an opinion and sometimes that process can take a long time. So it isn't you, people are often stuck in a ponder without a real response to certain thoughts. Open Eyes |
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More thoughts.....maybe people are like "sheep" in this sense.
![]() ![]() ![]() My initial reply to that thread that had no responses seemed to generate a ton of more responses, but then that doesn't always happen of course. ![]() Hard though....I mean with the thousands of members on this site, I'd think that each thread would get at LEAST one reply, so no one feels left out or ignored. ![]() A friend who has a lot of experience with online communities also said not to take them too seriously, esp. when people don't reply or reply and piss you off. ![]() |
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I rarely put a lot of thought into titles and often have threads and posts with no responses. Even so, I found what I was talking about to be interesting. That is enough for me.
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Bumping thread for the convenient link to all the unanswered threads on here.
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