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Old Oct 04, 2008, 03:24 PM
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I've been to vbulletin websites and can't find my answers.

What are the differences in functions (with regard to creator?) between "invite only", "moderated", and "public" social groups?

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Old Oct 04, 2008, 04:32 PM
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Sky, i think that private only socvila groups are devisive. We allready have private rooms for chat, what need would there be for a private social group? Additionally, is it going to be the person who createws the group that will decide who can join? How many secret foprums do we actually need here?
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there do not seem to be many differences - anyone from PC can see into all the social groups, near as I can tell. Just can't post unless one is a member...
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Old Oct 04, 2008, 05:34 PM
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Well, it wasn't me who created the different formats, and perhaps they just come with vbulletin. I rather like what I see.

What I'm wondering (since I didn't phrase it well) is the capabilities of each of the different categories. What exactly does "moderated" mean? Since all of the groups appear to gain at least one community team member after 3 social group members they are being moderated via the community team. Does that format give the organizer of the social group another option than that?
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Does a "public" social group always stay visible, even if moved into a forum?

Yes, the social groups are visible to all. However, I think it is still quite okay to have invite only groups to help keep the discussions on topic. I'm sure if someone reads in the group something they wish to respond to, they will create a post in the public forums. Plus, I hope that anyone who wishes to join an "invite only" group, and meets the basic intents of the group, that they will ask to join through a PM.

I have no doubt that DocJohn knows what he's doing with the site. Anyone who has been here or who understands mental health issues does realize that anything "secret" or "private" or "exclusionary" will not feel good to some members. But IMO, there are many members here who are ready for a different experience, an additional experience.
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Sky, i think that private only socvila groups are devisive. We allready have private rooms for chat, what need would there be for a private social group? Additionally, is it going to be the person who createws the group that will decide who can join? How many secret foprums do we actually need here?
allthegirls, there are 12 social groups already. You can check these out by clicking on 'social groups' in your profile or in the quick links tab.

From my understanding, groups are either invitation only(creator chooses) or are public groups(anyone can join.) I'm presuming 'moderated' just means you can choose to have it moderated if you wished.
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Sky,

DocJohn said in a different thread that the social groups are NOT moderated.
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Sky, i think that private only socvila groups are devisive. We allready have private rooms for chat, what need would there be for a private social group? Additionally, is it going to be the person who createws the group that will decide who can join? How many secret foprums do we actually need here?
I agree....Maybe it just comes with the software, but still it reminds me of elementary school when you want to go play with some kids but they don't want you. Apparently the person who creates an "invitation only" groups invites the members he/she wants.

You can read the posts in any group it seems, but you cannot post yourself unless you're a member....

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Im going to opt out of this thread as i think my responses are a result of feeling triggered and I dont want to be causing any problems. Im having knee jerk reactions and thats never good

People should be able to do what they feel best and i accept that. Good luck with your group, i hope its all you want, and i really do mean that.

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Well, the options when forming a social group are Private, Invite Only, Moderated.
I know I read that from DocJohn too, so I'm wondering if the creator of the social group has some ability to edit or flag or what??? the posts in the group. IDK.

The social groups, once they have enough members, can be taken private, just like this forum is, only for those who are members of it.
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Being the organizer of one of the groups I know that mine says it's moderated, but the moderator that is a member wasn't asked to moderate it. *I* moderate it.

I have invited members and members have asked to become members through basically the same form as when you wish to be added to someones "Friend List."

The only option I have is to report a post that I feel doesn't belong on our particular board. I don't know who the report goes to, though, or what the consequences would be. God willing, I won't have to find out.

I know that anyone can read the posts in each individual social group so that by no means defines any of the groups as "secret."

I made my group a private group because I knew there could be a lot of dissention if it had been made public. It's for my safety as well as for the rest of the members' safety. It's not meant to be exlusionary in any way, but it stands to reason that the group would be more peaceful and able to accomplish more if it is made up of like minded people. I wish to keep it that way. Just so you know, I don't make any decissions concerning our group by myself. There are two others besides me that help in the decission making. With God's help, we keep each other honest.
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but still it reminds me of elementary school when you want to go play with some kids but they don't want you. Apparently the person who creates an "invitation only" groups invites the members he/she wants.
And i do hope, like in school, if there's ppl you want to hang with (because usually kids join up with others they have things in common with) that you will ask to join and not just assume that because there's already a group that it is automatically closed to you. It is an opportunity to step up and reach out and know that nothing personal is being judged against you (or anyone).
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Old Oct 13, 2008, 12:54 AM
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there do not seem to be many differences - anyone from PC can see into all the social groups, near as I can tell. Just can't post unless one is a member...
i think there are some solid reasons for things the way they are. As an example, I don't think Kiya would continue her group if it were spammed by fundamentalists or anybody else.
The purpose of a moderator is to remove lewd or abusive postings especially if they are hurtful. (this is my opinion, i am not a moderator here.
As far as equating privacy with secrecy, there are no restrictions on your persons from private messaging each other and secretly chatting here or using some gmail dropbox if you think you need that. It shouldn't or needn't involve docJohn especially if something happens on those threads that could cause a legal problem that might endanger the future of psychcentral for the rest of us. of course i can give examples but wouldn't because i am not going to play the game of putting those ideas in somebody's head. suffice to say some horrible things happened on the internet in japan a few years ago and those who are well read will know what i mean.
docjohn is doing a great job here. he doesn't own the internet. if you have a need he doesn't provide that's perfectly ok cause he's not your daddy. I get a lot out of this site and i am willing to accept its limitations just as i am capable of recognizing the humanity and failings of the many kind people who also help me stay well in real life.
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Old Oct 13, 2008, 04:32 AM
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I'm sure you dont have to be a member to post in the public groups?Or why would they be public .... I hope anyone can post in the public ones if they want .... Jinny xoxoxo
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I think in the public groups, there is a little thing at the bottom that you can click to join the group & you just make the choice yourself....yes, no.

The more private groups, you just have to ask if you would like to join, or you are asked if you would like to join the group.....either way, all social groups are there for people who have like interests or beliefs. It is an awsome place to be able to share thoughts & ideas with others thinking in a similar mind set. What a wonderful tool to give us to join us closer together. It is a beautiful thing this new site has provided us with.

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And i do hope, like in school, if there's ppl you want to hang with (because usually kids join up with others they have things in common with) that you will ask to join and not just assume that because there's already a group that it is automatically closed to you. It is an opportunity to step up and reach out and know that nothing personal is being judged against you (or anyone).
Well to me, "invitation only" means just that...invitation only. You need to be invited. Otherwise, I think it's like crashing a party. LOL No worries, I have plenty to keep me busy on this site.
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Well to me, "invitation only" means just that...invitation only. You need to be invited. Otherwise, I think it's like crashing a party. LOL No worries, I have plenty to keep me busy on this site.
owl if there's a party you want to attend here, feel free to ask for an invite. there are no secrets and you are at least as good as any one else.
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