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Old Feb 03, 2018, 02:50 PM
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we are getting screwed by the people that are supposed to help us....they are not listening to the trauma and abuse that we have suffered...

they are just throwing pills at us...
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Old Feb 04, 2018, 07:21 AM
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I didn't trust my father or mother....my father was punitive and my mother was controlling...
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Old Feb 04, 2018, 02:51 PM
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we are getting screwed by the people that are supposed to help us....they are not listening to the trauma and abuse that we have suffered...

they are just throwing pills at us...
To therapist and friends/family:

While many are not listening, some are listening, thankfully.
More need to listen if they hope to assist in healing.
Pretending to listen is harmful. Either truly and honestly listen or go on your way, honestly admitting you won't be truly listening.

There is often major healing in just allowing people to tell their stories in a setting where they feel heard, truly heard, understood.

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Old Feb 04, 2018, 03:58 PM
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I believe you are right on re: trauma and abuse.

I believe my brain -- and my life -- would be different if I had the proper intervention at the time of the trauma and abuse. Instead, there was no intervention, which was par for the course back then. (I am in my 50's.)

We know better now!
Let's encourage more research. Maybe share our stories. I want to have more hope for today's children... or are they also falling between the cracks?

I think some of us, if not all of us, need to be courageous and tell our stories in order to incite more attention ( and funding) toward issues of mental health (outside of the pharmaceutical companies)?

I could go on and on, but won't. Not in this moment anyway.

Do we have the courage to show and tell, shedding light upon what needs more/better attention?


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Old Feb 04, 2018, 10:57 PM
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In the US, mentally unstable children are getting lost in the system, especially if parents are unable to advocate for them.
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Old Feb 05, 2018, 07:25 AM
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In the US, mentally unstable children are getting lost in the system, especially if parents are unable to advocate for them.
And many times traumatizing parental practices have been passed down from one generation to the next or the parents need mental illness treatment and are not getting it. I have a libertarian POV but when it comes to health care--I am becoming a socialist! People cannot reach their potential if they are not mentally and physically well.
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Old Feb 06, 2018, 08:12 AM
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And many times traumatizing parental practices have been passed down from one generation to the next or the parents need mental illness treatment and are not getting it. I have a libertarian POV but when it comes to health care--I am becoming a socialist! People cannot reach their potential if they are not mentally and physically well.

very important...good health care...I am learning that maybe our current health care has problems....they just pass out pills
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Old Feb 07, 2018, 08:37 AM
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i am really upset today...I cannot get off my celexa...I am down to 5 mg and I cant get rid of that pill...many have told me that it may be impossible unless I want to put up with permanent side effects...I am not happy about this...
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Old Feb 07, 2018, 11:06 AM
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i have started talking with my friends about marriage....I have a lot of problems with my marriage...and I have been married 63 years...we still live in the same house but I am frequently very frustrated and angry....so I have been looking at the 7 deadly habits and the 7 caring habits that are recommended for married people...I am finding that this is very hard to do...it takes me time and work to not get so angry about my wife..i bring it up here because my marriage causes me a lot of stress and causes me grief and depression and fear...

the 7 deadly habits are not recommended...

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Old Feb 07, 2018, 11:12 AM
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...I have been married 63 years...
--WOW!

I struggle with my marriage sometimes too!
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Old Feb 08, 2018, 09:14 AM
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major depression....I was diagnosed that way....

but a long time ago depression was in 2 categories--------
endogenous depression or reactive depression...
that makes more sense to me....I thought I was endogenous....
but it is not that simple...I wish i knew more about the causes...
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Old Feb 08, 2018, 09:43 AM
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major depression....I was diagnosed that way....

but a long time ago depression was in 2 categories--------
endogenous depression or reactive depression...
that makes more sense to me....I thought I was endogenous....
but it is not that simple...I wish i knew more about the causes...
As ou already know i have a lot of problems with my marrage. My H can be very verbaly abusive. We are complete diffrent. One day we can be having a perfact day, then i may say somthing that hits him the wrong way, and the whole day is ruened. But i have been abused in one way or another all of my life, so i try to handle myH's verbal abuse. We will be having our 25th anniversery in June, so itry to look at it as, if he can put up with my MI, then i can walk on egg shells when it is needed.
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Old Feb 08, 2018, 09:45 AM
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depression is awful no matter what causes it....awful
I hope more help is on the way...I hope
the world is very stressful now and things are changing so fast..

I tend to blame myself...and shame myself..i have taken on what I saw when I was a child and some of my relatives were made fun of for being mentally ill..

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Old Feb 09, 2018, 10:55 AM
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depression is awful no matter what causes it....awful
I hope more help is on the way...I hope
the world is very stressful now and things are changing so fast..

I tend to blame myself...and shame myself..i have taken on what I saw when I was a child and some of my relatives were made fun of for being mentally ill..
My family would not talk about the mental illness. I'd ask grandparents, aunts/uncles, etc., "Is there any history of depression in the family?" The answer was always "no." Yet, I now know there was and nobody would talk about it. It was on both the maternal and paternal sides.

My father took his own life when I was 12 y.o. We weren't allowed to discuss it then and nobody mentions him now -- erased from history, but still in my broken heart.


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Old Feb 09, 2018, 11:18 AM
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My family would not talk about the mental illness. I'd ask grandparents, aunts/uncles, etc., "Is there any history of depression in the family?" The answer was always "no." Yet, I now know there was and nobody would talk about it. It was on both the maternal and paternal sides.

My father took his own life when I was 12 y.o. We weren't allowed to discuss it then and nobody mentions him now -- erased from history, but still in my broken heart.


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My family would not talk about the mental illness. I'd ask grandparents, aunts/uncles, etc., "Is there any history of depression in the family?" The answer was always "no." Yet, I now know there was and nobody would talk about it. It was on both the maternal and paternal sides.

My father took his own life when I was 12 y.o. We weren't allowed to discuss it then and nobody mentions him now -- erased from history, but still in my broken heart.


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Old Feb 10, 2018, 12:34 AM
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i have started talking with my friends about marriage....I have a lot of problems with my marriage...and I have been married 63 years...we still live in the same house but I am frequently very frustrated and angry....so I have been looking at the 7 deadly habits and the 7 caring habits that are recommended for married people...I am finding that this is very hard to do...it takes me time and work to not get so angry about my wife..i bring it up here because my marriage causes me a lot of stress and causes me grief and depression and fear...

the 7 deadly habits are not recommended...
63 years! Congrats!

Marriage, like any long-term relationship, is work.
I'll have to review the 7 caring habits. I am not having any major problems in my marriage (20+ yrs.); yet, I don't want to develop any problems, either!
Thanks for mentioning this.


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Old Feb 10, 2018, 09:38 AM
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wild coyote---I am still thinking about your father...very sad
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Old Feb 10, 2018, 09:46 AM
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I need to keep talking about my last big disabling breakdown in 1973...I couldn't do much...I tried to work in a lab and all I could do is wash glassware...I was so embarrassed....I couldn't believe that was happening to me ...the great wonderful little turtle...what a terrible thing...people just don't understand what we go thru..i was in private practice...I just wanted the hell out of all that...I didn't want that private practice one more minute..i didn't take street drugs but I liked what valium did..

please share your stories with me...
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Old Feb 10, 2018, 11:16 AM
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what is this thing called depression...what does it mean to have a mental illness...
I don't really like using the words mental illness...
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Old Feb 11, 2018, 09:51 PM
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what is this thing called depression...what does it mean to have a mental illness...
I don't really like using the words mental illness...
I am still dealing with depression and anxiety. The meds helped with irritability and sleeplessness.

I take lamotrigine DT 100mg twice a day, buspar 10mg and amisulphride 50mg at night.

I would be calling my pdoc tomorrow to check if he can prescribe me an anti-depressant. The sinking feeling in depression is quite terrible.
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Old Feb 12, 2018, 09:27 AM
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I am still dealing with depression and anxiety. The meds helped with irritability and sleeplessness.

I take lamotrigine DT 100mg twice a day, buspar 10mg and amisulphride 50mg at night.

I would be calling my pdoc tomorrow to check if he can prescribe me an anti-depressant. The sinking feeling in depression is quite terrible.

how are you coming with your friend...
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Old Feb 12, 2018, 11:29 AM
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how are you coming with your friend...
Oh great. I m going to come over to USA in July on tourist visa. Come back to India in Dec as he applies for the fiancee visa. Once that is approved I come to USA permanently and we get married.

Thanks for asking.
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Old Feb 13, 2018, 07:24 AM
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Oh great. I m going to come over to USA in July on tourist visa. Come back to India in Dec as he applies for the fiancee visa. Once that is approved I come to USA permanently and we get married.

Thanks for asking.

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Old Feb 13, 2018, 07:25 AM
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I am very angry...I want to be on the fuzzy bus...
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