confessions of little turtle with love

It’s crap. And I don’t like having to keep ducking to avoid it. Grrrrr

Thank you little turtle for the Hope and Truth you share here

I just want to cry....
I am listening to a podcast on the MAD IN AMERICA website...
it is james moore interviewing laura Delano....
it is about the use of psychiatric drugs and what they did to laura..
it is a profound podcast...

today I am reading the book---------ANATOMY OF AN EPIDEMIC--- by Robert whitaker...this is the second time reading this book ....
it has to do with psych meds and outcomes..it is controversial...I want to know everything that is going on...I want to help me and my friends...

this psych med thing is a real big problem...
does it work for you or does it hurt,,,
or aren't you sure.....I am not sure at all about my anti-depressant...

Today I'll be reading DBT Skills Training Manual by Marsha Linehan. Looking forward to it.

that could be very helpful...

two of my biggest problems right now--

I am not eating as healthy as I should..
I am not moving around and walking as much as I should...

my brain and mind are having trouble with stress...

Little turtle, and Fuzzy Bear, both of you give us a lot of support, and a lot to think about!!!!!!! (((((((HUGS)))))))

thanks katydid....we are on the bus together...we are EQUAL..

I must thank Fuzzy. She got me interested in DBT.

I am very unhappy....
but I feel better about myself..
I am trying to help others...
who are suffering more than I am..

and I am not talking about medicines..
they can be helpful..but there are other
problems that medicine cant fix...

there are certain problems that medicine cant fix

There is A LOT of talk about meds..

As I can’t take them this affects me deeply and sometimes it takes a LOT of “strength” not to feed on the stupid doctors .. (not anyone here)

Hugs can affect a person’s immune system in a positive way

I listened to the extreme symptoms someone in my former support group was going through to try to get off of Zyprexa (an AP). He has never had psychosis or mania and can’t understand why it was given to him. He has depression and anxiety.

I feel so bad for him. He can’t seem to get off of it no matter how slowly he tapers. He reduced the dose by a lot over the past year, but he hit a wall. His weight, cholesterol, and blood pressure are up since he started. He can’t sleep if he reduces his dose any further. He is afraid for his heart but he can’t sleep when he tries to reduce. He even has a pill slicer...He is angry about this. He now knows he never needed this drug, but he didn’t know.

I decided to quit Seroquel (an AP) before I can’t. I don’t really need it. I was only on a low dose for sleep, but now that I’ve seen how bad an AP can be to stop after years, it’s just too big of a sledgehammer for what it does.

I’ll keep it as PRN only, which is more appropriate in my case. I have no psychosis and lithium works well for me at a low dose. I don’t know why it was prescribed daily for me. I’ve been off of it a few months with no problems.

It caused me to gain weight and my blood sugar went up even at a low dose. It was given to me by 2 previous psychiatrists and the current one kept it on. Losing weight is like busting out concrete with a hand pick at my age. I am not happy...

If I needed it, I would take it, and I know it helps people. But in my case the risk and harm outweighed the benefit. I take other meds because I need them.

Back to the man I mentioned—I just can’t understand why the Zyprexa in his case. That is quite a cannon...his doc told him to stay on it even when it didn’t resolve his depression and anxiety.

This is so true...you made me think of the man I just posted about.

He went to the doctor for help because someone slipped his son a drug at a party, which nearly killed his son of an overdose. Sadly, his son will never recover and is bedridden with mental and physical disabilities.

Drugs cannot solve his father’s grief! Why....

The pdoc diagnosed his grief as depression and anxiety and the onslaught of prescriptions began.

this book is so well written....but it is so disturbing...
I was taught that my depression was chronic and needed
antidepressant therapy for life....I don't think that was good
for me...now my 5mg of celexa is very hard to get rid of..

I am trying to follow the golden rule....with my wife...
it is tough....if I want love from her I have to give love..
I didn't learn that very well...struggling

I am learning....I am paying close attention to DO NO HARM..
I cant believe that at 86 yo I have a lot to learn...
about relationships....

Hi little turtle . I was thinking about you and wondered where you were. I was a bit concerned

Somebody accused me of being “needy” once so I try to give people “space”

I didn’t like being called “needy” and “weak” That person was wrong

I have a lot to learn about relationships too...

How are you doing?

sweet fuzzy----i am ok...thanks..
i am needy...
i am weak...
sometimes i am strong...
when i had my big breakdown i was soooo needy and weak...
i just couldn't help it...but i don't like somebody else saying
those things about me...i don't like somebody else putting me down...
about anything...and i have to try like hell not to do that to anyone..
like to myself..dear fuzzy thanks for your help..

Yeah I guess in times of desperation and misery we all feel very needy and weak like I m feeling right now. But I guess its ok

I have the same problem Fuzzy. I can't take SSRI's. I have a bad reaction to them, so I have to try to handle my issues without things like that, and it can be extreemly hard to get through just one day, let alone a lifetime. I try to handle days a little at a time...

((((((((( little turtle )))))))))

I’m glad you’re back . I think people who say those sorts of things to others may have a “problem” with “anger”

I don’t like somebody else putting me down. Grrrrrrrr.

I don’t say those things to anyone

i continue reading the book ---ANATOMY OF AN EPIDEMIC by Robert whitaker...
it is very disturbing to me because I may have harmed some of my patients..
I was just following what I was taught to do...but now maybe things have changed..
at least I didn't treat any children... thank goodness....it is hard not feeling guilty...
actually I wish I was back in there...I know better now...these drugs can be very dangerous if not used with caution and continued learning about alternative care...
and when to stop the drugs...

actually I was treating my depression the same way I was treating my patients...so that was good...I was taking the same antidepressants and benzos...I was right there with my patients..

((((((((( little turtle ))))))))

I agree about the drugs . Too many are put on the drugs with little or no follow up and no therapy . And aren’t even “told” by the doctor to try to learn about alternative care . At least this is what happened to me ..

I’m grateful to have “met” you, as I didn’t feel, and still don’t, feel “cared about” in the slightest by any of the doctors in this forest. A couple I think did care or tried to care were completely constrained by the “system” etc and didn’t help either