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Old Oct 04, 2018, 10:21 AM
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I felt very hurt yesterday....my wife said some things about me
that were not true...she is there judging me...I got very angry...
As you may have guessed.. it makes me very grrrrrr when people, especially “family” are there judging us, and saying things that are not true.

It’s ok to be angry about cruel bs

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Old Oct 04, 2018, 10:22 AM
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there is a beautiful podcast on the MAD IN AMERICA website...
it is titled COMPASSIONATE PSYCHOTHERAPY..
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This is very important.

And it also validates the FACT that not all therapists are compassionate (or even competent)
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Old Oct 04, 2018, 10:25 AM
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there is HOPE and HELP out there....but it is very hard to find...
we need to be able to talk with someone about everything
without being drugged or locked up for what we are THINKING and FEELING...
I now know that there is HOPE for us...but we have to find it for ourselves...
you have to be very careful now about who is going to be helpful...
but there is HELP...

I am hurting right now and hope that my friend tomorrow will be helpful..
my friend tends not to judge me...better than a therapist or psychiatrist..
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Old Oct 04, 2018, 10:25 AM
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I am staying away from my wife....she can be very hurtful...
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Old Oct 04, 2018, 01:23 PM
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I am staying away from my wife....she can be very hurtful...
Little Turtle, has your wife always been hurtful, or did she become hurtful over time or after an event?
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Old Oct 04, 2018, 03:01 PM
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Little Turtle, has your wife always been hurtful, or did she become hurtful over time or after an event?

she came that way...she is very smart....but very critical of me...she is a good talker...I am not a good talker...but I am learning...even now after 63 years of marriage...
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Old Oct 04, 2018, 03:16 PM
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I’d probably have learnt the same thing.. with someone else. To be a good talker. How the **** do I teach myself that and all those other skills.

And there is at least one N in papa bears family. I do not “like” them ......

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Old Oct 04, 2018, 03:30 PM
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she came that way...she is very smart....but very critical of me...she is a good talker...I am not a good talker...but I am learning...even now after 63 years of marriage...
I am usually very calm and quiet. Years ago, I could see that I could easily out talk my husband though. This only made me be more cautious about giving him enough time to express himself, encouraging him to be fully honest with me, etc. We are more apt to overcome life challenges as a team.

I bite my tongue and take a few deep breaths while I make sure I am giving him the floor and also make sure I am listening and I validate him/his concerns.

I am very sorry your wife has chosen to be critical of you. Have you been able to tell her you feel this way?


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Old Oct 04, 2018, 04:39 PM
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I am very unhappy in my marriage...I just feel she takes me down..
I do not trust her with my heart...that is very sad...but that is reality for me..
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Old Oct 04, 2018, 05:41 PM
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Confessions of little turtle with love #2
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Old Oct 04, 2018, 06:56 PM
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I am very unhappy in my marriage...I just feel she takes me down..
I do not trust her with my heart...that is very sad...but that is reality for me..
I am very sorry you feel this way.
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Old Oct 05, 2018, 07:29 AM
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I can no longer trust my wife with my problems...I am sad...
I am now becoming aware of how damaged she is and how she
remains secret about her problems...she is damaged goods also...
I am damaged goods and have a harder time hiding it...but I no longer
want to hide my problems....I am a human being with problems...
I no longer believe that I have some mental disease....I am no longer
in the DSM....and I hope that I can sh--can my celexa...I am scared...
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Old Oct 05, 2018, 07:30 AM
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thank you all my friends here on this forum for helping me...
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Old Oct 05, 2018, 07:32 AM
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I feel so sad for all the friends and family and patients who have died by suicide...
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Old Oct 05, 2018, 07:47 AM
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I am glad about something...
since my breakdown#3 I have seen myslf as a piece of crap..
well that is changing just a little...I am now talking more about
me being a human being with problems...

not a defective weak mentally ill slacker...
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Old Oct 05, 2018, 02:40 PM
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I can no longer trust my wife with my problems...I am sad...
I am now becoming aware of how damaged she is and how she
remains secret about her problems...she is damaged goods also...
I am damaged goods and have a harder time hiding it...but I no longer
want to hide my problems....I am a human being with problems...
I no longer believe that I have some mental disease....I am no longer
in the DSM....and I hope that I can sh--can my celexa...I am scared...
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Old Oct 06, 2018, 07:01 AM
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I am very disturbed about young kids being given psych drugs...
when I first broke down at age 19 there were no psych drugs...
it was a terrible breakdown but I recovered and had a life until
my next break at age 34....
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Old Oct 06, 2018, 09:16 AM
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the words that are said by a therapist...
may be more damaging than these psych drugs...
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Old Oct 06, 2018, 09:17 AM
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my wife and I had a constructive talk today..
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Old Oct 06, 2018, 09:26 AM
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the words that are said by a therapist...
may be more damaging than these psych drugs...
I agree, words said by a sub optimal therapist with a liking for power and control can be very damaging
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And these sub optimal therapists.. when people consult them..some of the people learn or “perfect” their own skills ... of .. invalidation.

Instead of the therapeutic space being safe.. it can be far from safe.
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Old Oct 06, 2018, 09:31 AM
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I am very disturbed about young kids being given psych drugs...
when I first broke down at age 19 there were no psych drugs...
it was a terrible breakdown but I recovered and had a life until
my next break at age 34....
I agree, this is disturbing.

Do you want to share more about what happened when you were 34?

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my wife and I had a constructive talk today..
Do you want to share more?
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Old Oct 06, 2018, 11:03 AM
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I tried to have a private practice without using drugs
for me or my patients...after 6 years I had a very bad breakdown...
one of the main reasons was the development of a severe panic disorder
while I was in training to be a psychiatrist....I lost my confidence then...



I believe that the taking of psych drugs was damaging to my life...
but I survived and here I am...there is hope and help
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Old Oct 06, 2018, 11:14 AM
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I tried to have a private practice without using drugs
for me or my patients...after 6 years I had a very bad breakdown...
one of the main reasons was the development of a severe panic disorder
while I was in training to be a psychiatrist....I lost my confidence then...



I believe that the taking of psych drugs was damaging to my life...
but I survived and here I am...there is hope and help
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Thanks for sharing. You’re an inspiration to many here
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