Any point to life?

Ok, so I don't want to scare anybody with this. But I really don't see the point to life. If I didn't have my dad... I would have nothing to live for.

oh silver,

all i can say is: ME TOO

germ

In my case, it's my son..........so, I understand too.

People have pondered that very question for many centuries. Why not read up on some theories and philosophies? Some people make it their life's journey to find out. I've read and heard stories of people searching for the meaning of life. Some live with nothing - no possessions and eat very little and search and read and ponder, just to find out what life really means.

What about your puppies? I've seen your pictures, one with a trophy even!
There was time when all that kept me coming home was my dog. And that's ok.
I've seen some of your posts. You are a caring person who likes to help people. We need you here too.
There's always a point... i'ts just obscured by cloud sometimes.
So your father is very important to you. Care to share?
Are you afraid of losing him right now?

Hmmm. I dont think so. Im not all that interested in it philosophically, I was more wondering if there was anything to live for if I didnt have my dad.

That dog is not my dog, he is my aunt's dog.

Of course my dad is important to me. My mother died when I was young, so he was the one who raised me, who loves me, who wants me to succeed in life. In a way I am afraid of losing him. He works in the auto trade and Im afraid he could be badly injured when he is at work. Also he cycles to work and back and I get worried he will get run over and be hurt or killed, especially since he cycles on a busy main road with lorries and buses. If he died there would be no reason for me to continue living.

People on this site do not need me. Only a few would miss me if I stopped coming here.

Hi silver queen,

Depression sucks the life out of us, it makes us see things in such a negative way. I'm sure lots of us have been in that place.

When I was right down I was dead to the world. I remember my wife saying to me, "But what about love, you never say the word any more." That was a low point.

In your post, you talk about your Dad with such obvious love, it has to be a good sign, even if it worries you.

Of course people on this board would miss you. In some ways we are getting to know each other even closer than in the 3d world, because of the things we share.

Good thoughts to you, Myzen

deleted as I decided my input was not something I wished to share on a public message board at this point.

All the best,
Fuzzy

What you say is true, Myzen. Thanks for replying.

Thanks ((((Fuzzy)))), but please, no hugs for me at the moment.

My old therapist used to tell me that "There was a lot to live for. The question is, What is there to die for?" That being said, He is no longer my therapist, and since he QUIT me, I have questioned a lot that he said to me.
I do think there are a lot of things to live for, but it is really hard to see in the depth of depression. You know how people say optimistic people are wearing "rose colored glasses". I think depressed people are wearing blind folds: All we see is darkness.
My husband is my life. He has high blood pressure, high cholesterol, and is a brittle diabetic. I know that he won't last much longer. He is only 42, but will most likely die before he is 50. I don't know what I will do without him, and I have had more therapy about this issue than you can imagine. I figure since he is my reason now to live, after he is gone, I will not have a reason.
In order to get through my day to day, bump and grind, I really do take one day at a time/ When that doesn't work, I take one hour at a time, and trust me, there are times that I take one minute at a time.
Hang in there, and if nothing else, live for all of us.
bren

I would say that there is no point to life. I hate it. Anyone else wish they were never born?

I don't like to think too much about whether life has a point. When I am in a pretty good place, I push big picture questions like this out of my mind.

When I am in a bad place, not being alive seems like lying down for a long and much deserved sleep.

What I pretty much know is that I don't have what it takes to suicide. So I've no choice but to do what I can to be in a good place as often as possible. To not make my presence too great a burden on others. To be polite, and helpful, and use environmental resources custodially.

I think that sometimes I have contributed something of value to the education of my students. I imagine that someone else could have done as well or even better.

I don't like thinking about this.

You may want to tar & feather me for what I'm going to say here.

Existentialism says that it's our burden to CREATE the meaning of our own lives. No ducking the responsibility. No complaining about the consequences of what we build, because noone twisted our arms. If we live only for another, then we've hitched our wagon to a falling star. Perhaps we would have done better to champion the cause of certain deprived groups of people or animals, because they are never in short supply. Then we would never lose our reasons for living!

What does it mean to live only for one other person? It means that we have decided to take our tinkertoys and go home, to resign from life when we don't get exactly what we want. It means we've decided to to live vicariously, THROUGH another person, which isn't really living at all. People who try to live for others are not too happy about whatever freedom those others have. They're limiting and restricting their own lives, making some imaginary sacrifice to give the "other" some imaginary benefit. Actually, they are DEPRIVING both themselves and the other person. Neither of them gets what they deserve --- the freedom to live for their own reasons --- instead of for someone else. Furthermore, living for another is an awful guilt trip to inflict on that person.

With all due respect to those of you who are suffering out there, and I know you are, please create your own reason to live. Your loved ones will be more at ease with you, because you will no longer cling to them out of NEED. Need is not love. Loved ones were not meant to fill that void.

So what will it be, hanging me in effigy or 3D burning me at the stake?

Before you decide, let me say one more thing. I've felt your pain and been in the same spot you're in. You're the story of my life, except that I learned to take responsibility for my own reason for living after my important others were no longer available. This is, in my humble opinion, a way to take away your pain and enrich your lives. And a few good meds wouldn't hurt, either.

Love to all,
Adieu

Lots of wisdom in what you write, Adieu

Sorry. Once again I forgot to turn off my rant mode. Apologies to those I may have offended.

Adieu
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People need trouble --- a little frustration to sharpen the spirit
on, toughen it. Artists do; I don't mean you need to live in a
rat hole or gutter, but you have to learn fortitude, endurance.
Only vegetables are happy.
~~~ WILLIAM FAULKNER ~~~

I can't say that I wished I had never been born.Life can become unmanageable at any age.
I think it is worse to have it all fall apart at an older age.There is not as much time or motivation to rebuild.I was too lucky.I had a good life.There was always love and joy in my life.A few downs along the way.But I always knew i was loved.And I was able to love.
So it all changes.If I were younger I would start rebuilding right away..Theres a lot out there to experience and look forward to..But its too late now.And I accept it .
So if you have friends,family,youth,and the ability to work there is a point in living.

Hi Adieu,

That's a good point about existentialism. I noticed that Candybear made a reference to Camus on another thread, so there seems to be something in the air at the moment.

For years I stuck to the the 'create my own meaning' line. Then I had a bad depression and tried to become a Catholic. That didn't work so now I am back to square one.

So, the world exists, rather puzzlingly and sometimes painfully, and we are in it. What to do about that? Nothing.

These days I am going with Zen, just taking life as given, and not trying to inellectualise it into something. I'm not trying to create my own meaning, I'm just going with what is presented without pushing or pulling against it.

Some people just call it acceptance. Sometimes I laugh at it (Camus' 'scorn' ) but most of the time I just look at it, and those are the best times.

Cheers, Myzen

<font color="green"> </font> I am struggilng constantly with what's the point of my life. It's a horrible feeling to feel like there is absolutely no reason for anything, no reason to live. Since I can't work, I am thinking about volunteering. I know that gives people a lot of satisfaction but it is very hard to get going when you are depressed. I feel pointless and out of place a great deal of the time. It can be very overwhelming.

Maxi, I highly recommend volunteering. I used to do a lot of it. I want to again sometime. I tutored adults in reading; I volunteered in a hospital; I played piano in nursing homes. There's LOTS to do. And if you're interested in doing something special, just ask the organization. They might like the idea.

((((((((((((((((((((Silver))))))))))))))))))))))

I see and read your pain. Wish we could take it away. I wish I had the words to help u.

I just want you to know that you are cared for deeply by so many. It is so difficult to see the good things in life when you feel so bad. You are a great person, a joy to talk to.

I want to offer more but in all honesty not sure what to say. Words seem so hard to come by lately. Not helpful I know. But you are worth so much more than this. You are worth LIVING FOR. Stay with us, there is a point to life.

Justy

silver,
i don't have much to say except, yeah..i feel that way too. i just don't know why it is i keep trying. could be that false hope in my mind

I'm sorry you are feeling so badly, Maxymidi. This is a great place to get things off your chest and to find support.

If you don't feel up to volunteering, perhaps you could just find some activities to drop in on when you are up to it.

The holidays can be hard on even a person whose okay. Welcome to the forums, and keep coming back.

BRAVA!! BRAVA!!