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Old Dec 14, 2008, 10:40 AM
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Perhaps it's just the cloudy, overcast day but below seems a lot closer than above today.

The holidays are always a rough time of year. Maybe because there are no longer children with their laughs and giggles around any more. Or it could be I'm in the "dead zone" that the cell phone company talks about.

I'm fully aware there are all types of charities and organizations I could be involved with. However, that involves getting out of the house and I don't think I'm up to that.

There are issues at home that are suffocating. But my back problems are getting worse. Sometimes I try to fool myself into believing I depressed because of my back problems. While my back problems are a contributing factor to my depression they are not the dominant reason.

Life is getting very restrictive as to what I can and cannot do. And I have nowhere to go for help. I can't make my bed, load and unload the dishwasher, can't put the clothes in or take them out of the dryer, pull weeds, mow the yard without pain.

I cannot walk or stand for long periods of time. This makes it very difficult to go shopping for clothes, groceries, or a trip to Walmart for Kleenex.

I can't change things to improve life at home and life at home is becoming unbearable. I know I'm suppose to accept the things I can not change, but it hurts (a deep down inside type of hurt). I'm not sure just how much more I can take.

As a frog of little brain I'm wondering, what does hope look like? How do you know when you have lost it?

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Old Dec 14, 2008, 11:03 AM
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Back to the Doctors you go to get some pain killers for your back pain. I don't like to think of you suffering with the back pain. Get the strongest thing you can get.

This time of year stinks! I don't care what anyone says, we struggle so much through it. I am the original scrooge I reckon! Bah humbug! What is there to be jolly about anyway!

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Old Dec 14, 2008, 11:17 AM
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(keb)))))))))))) I know from my Dads back problems they are very hard to deal with. He too had depression. Too.
At one point he recieved a shot of cordazone in his back that helped
Also sitting outside helped him alot. When the sun does come back out there where you are. Do let your Dr know how much pain you are in.
And yes you are right the holidays can be hard. I agree with you there
Remember your children love you no matter what age they are
Hope things get better some
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Old Dec 14, 2008, 11:20 AM
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Old Dec 14, 2008, 11:36 AM
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Old Dec 14, 2008, 01:05 PM
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((Kebs)), sending you lots of hugs.

Hope you get some meds for your back problem. I can't say I know how much it hurts, but from what you're saying, you're in a lot of pain.

Let us know how you're doing please.
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Old Dec 14, 2008, 01:51 PM
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I agree that you should let your dr know that your back pain is worse. For me hope is the knowledge that things don't always have to be as bad as they are now and even when things are rough there can be times of laughter.
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Old Dec 14, 2008, 05:04 PM
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Too bad! So both my best friends are not getting out of home!
About back pains, while medicines are important to solve the crisis, pain has a couse, which resides in how bones and muscles and other tissues work. This can only be corrected with special gym. I have back pain sometimes, due to scoliosis, but it improves dramatically when I practice. It would never subside if I stay still. Did you try it?
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Old Dec 14, 2008, 06:27 PM
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((((kebs))))), i'm sorry you are going through such a very difficult time. i believe after reading about what's going on with you i'd have a hard time trying to accept what you can't change too. having said that, ahem, perhaps a concerted effort to get someone to help you get back to your doctor is the main medicine you need right now. 'scuse the pun. i hope he can put you on something to relieve the pain and i think some of your depression would lift too if you weren't hurting physically so badly.
you asked what does hope look like?...good question...in this case i guess it's pc cause you posted to us...at least that's how i see it cause you wouldn't have posted if you had lost all hope. (((so big hugs to you))) and i hope you feel better real soon.
ps we both have the same avatar so i hope you realize my post is not you!
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Old Dec 14, 2008, 06:33 PM
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ps we both have the same avatar so i hope you realize my post is not you!
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Old Dec 14, 2008, 07:18 PM
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((kebs))
we are moving along similar paths...
wanna hold hands and help each other keep going?

As the others have suggested, please contact your physician about the pain/meds. You probably already know this, but it is law that you have adequate pain control. With chronic conditions like ours, there is much leeway in what can be prescribed to help.

Hope is such an intangible and so different for each person.
I don't know what hope is until I realize I've lost it again. It's almost always when I wonder if things will ever get better or is the rest of my life going to be like it is right this moment...
Frustration, rage, then sadness at the possibility of things never getting one iota better.
It will come back to your loving heart, kebs. it might be napping right now but it will come back.

For me, the holidays can be a downer until I stop thinking it has to be like the Waltons or the Cleavers or any "Hallmark" kind of thing. I gotta work with what I have and sometimes it's not very much...

I'm sorry that your soul is hurting so much, kebs.
Please keep posting and let us know how you are...
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I care

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Old Dec 14, 2008, 09:40 PM
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sometimes hope is only a smile ((Kebs))))
You are probably right, nowhere. If fact I'm quite sure that's true. The only problem is it is getting harder and harder to have even just a little smile right now

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Old Dec 14, 2008, 09:46 PM
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((((((((((((((( kebs )))))))))))))))))
I agree that you should let your dr know that your back pain is worse. For me hope is the knowledge that things don't always have to be as bad as they are now and even when things are rough there can be times of laughter.
Thanks for your thoughts. You know you are probably right about things not being as bad as the seem now.
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Old Dec 14, 2008, 10:08 PM
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Thanks for your thoughts. You know you are probably right about things not being as bad as the seem now.
If you start turning as green as your avatar you may have cause to worry.

Sending good thoughts your way...
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Old Dec 14, 2008, 10:28 PM
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Too bad! So both my best friends are not getting out of home!
About back pains, while medicines are important to solve the crisis, pain has a couse, which resides in how bones and muscles and other tissues work. This can only be corrected with special gym. I have back pain sometimes, due to scoliosis, but it improves dramatically when I practice. It would never subside if I stay still. Did you try it?
Ah, my favorite Italian, I'm not like your very best friend, I do get out. It is more that I should be more socially involved but I have my cocoon where I'm safe and it is a hard shell to break.

I have spinal stenosis in my lower back which in the last 4 years has gone from significant to severe. The disc's in my lower back are slowly wearing away. And of those left there is moderate disco bulging.

Since I'm an elderly frog of little brain I guess I'm suppose to be willing to sit around all day watching TV or playing computer games. This is not who I am but more what I must become in order to survive.

According to one article I read I need to learn "Salsa" dancing so I can improve my core muscles. Oh yes I can see the frog of little brain salsa dancing around PC.

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Old Dec 16, 2008, 11:53 PM
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I completely agree with it being more depressing during the holidays...It may be that it is cloudy and cold or rainy, idk, just know you arent alone with this feeling right now!
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Old Dec 17, 2008, 05:17 PM
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keb i am so sorry you are in so much pain that its stopping you doing your everyday chores,have you tried having just doing jobs a bit at a time not all in one go, for jobs such as stading by the sink try using a stall to lean or sit on,

i agree with you on the holidays not so much fun when little ones are not around i only have teenagers at home now, its defiantly less fun so i try to mix with friends children as often as possible as they make me feel younger

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