is this supposed to be

Thank you Silver.... exactly.

As the introduction to the forum states Welcome!
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As requested by the members, a supportive place for folks with dissociative disorders (such as DID, also known as multiple personality disorder).

This is a support forum, so discussion about whether or not DID or other dissociative disorders exist are not appropriate here.

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Ben is very astute to offer this observation "Only it's full of people, and people are flawed and fallible" about this forum.

For people who deal with full blown dissociative identity disorder this forum can be the only place that feels safe. For us to have others come stomping into this forum saying they don't belong but are going to stay anyway doesn't really help us feel any more supported or safe.

It is up to everyone participating to create this forum into what they need.

For us that means when we are posting something with adult content now we are specific to state that younger fjolks are not to read and to proceed with caution. It is not our responsibility for the safety of others when we are posting within the guidelines set forth. Each poster needs to be aware of their limitations and stay within them.

We hope all who experience dissociative disorders (the DIDers, DIDNOSers, and all those others along the spectrum) can bring respect and courtesy to this forum as everyone has different needs and lacking clairvoyancy none can predict what another needs..............until they directly ask for what they need and how folks can go about meeting those needs more effectively.

until then we all need to keep working on communication skills and remember that we're all at different places in healing.

for some that means hanging out with the littles and healing that way. for others that means having adult discussions w/o any mention of stuffed animals or hidey holes. nothing is wrong with either but each side needs to respect the other.

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For people who deal with full blown dissociative identity disorder this forum can be the only place that feels safe. For us to have others come stomping into this forum saying they don't belong but are going to stay anyway doesn't really help us feel any more supported or safe.

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I don't know if I belong here or not. Do I have to have a diagnosis to stay?
I am happy to see anyone here who is supportive. Jsut as I am happy to see people post in depression who are not depressed, as long as theya re supportive. But if I don't belong here I will leave.

I'm sorry. I'll stay out in future.

there is not a requirement of a dx to stay and be supportive. there is a need for more understanding of dissociative disorders ionsho.

we hope that folks can understand why someone with a DID/DIDNOS dx might be wary of folks hanging around offering suggestions who do not share the dx and have no idea of the realities of living with severe dissociation.

our post was only to say that we hope all folks who insist on posting in this forum understand that ppl post in different ways and if they request for certain groups to NOT respond to their post or thread then for those groups to respect that request.

support isn't one size fits all. that is the beauty of this site......the many forums in which to seek support. we'd be happy to see the creation of a "Safe Forum" for people to go to when they need extra support and the help of moderators to keep the forum safe. for now the Dissociative Disorders forum has become that place by default. Let's request a separate place for safety for ALL so that dissociatives do not feel like this forum is the hidey hole for the whole site.

all are welcome who can maintain respect for those struggling with disease/disorder in a forum specifically for that disease/disorder.

this isn't directed at any one person or poster. this is from watching this forum evolve over the past year. these are our concerns we added to this thread that Fuzzy started asking "is this supposed to be".....this post is our opinion.

just as your post was your opinion. hopefully we've been able to exchange ideas in a peaceful fashion w/o misunderstandings.

Thanks for your thoughts ZH. So if you havent been diagnosed does that mean you are not welcome here?

What you read seems to be saying that people can post what they want in DID and its up to everyone else to avoid it.

I thought the whole purpose of having different forums was to take responsibility for what we post and post appropriatley.

So, when I feel like Im gonna harm, well i got to SI.When I feel,like i want to talk about relationships I go to Relationships. If I had a drug problem i go there. Thats how I take responsibility for how I post.

Adult conversation. Well there seems to be alot of it in DID. I post adult threads, my littles post little threads. Someimes im a mix of both. No one asks you to talk of stuffed animals and hidy holes etc, you can talk about what you want and Im sure others will listen.

It makes me feel like talk of stuffed animals is wrong, if thats the case there are a lot of people here who are wrong.

You talk of sides, well I didnt know there were any. What side am I on cos I seem to post both "adult" posts and child posts. Where do I fit in and whos side am I on. I notice that others here have a mix of the two also, what side are they on? I cant see any sides.

Ive been here a while, and only ever seen One thread that was inappropriate for DID (im sure there have been others but Ive just not came across them) Im interested to know what adult posts are not being posted? It seems to me that they are everywhere within this forum and seem to be causing absolutley no problem what so ever.

Can I say that a forum reflects the people who post and will not reflect those who dont.

Audrey

zh
thankyou for your input.

ZH, the DID forum has become what the people have made it. Thats what happens. If you dont post there will be no reflection of you and how you feel. The people who do post have made it a reflection of themselves, good or bad, thats what happens. Why dont you post and that way your reflection will be here too. These little safe rooms have been created by the people for the people. Only those that need them use them, when they feel the need. Should these be removed fro DID? Is that your suggestion?

I think you have hit the nail on the head, when you say you have WATCHED the forum evole, it will only be your participation that will change things.

As for those who have not been diagnosed answering those of us who are struggling with the "disease": well, I didnt know I had a disease. And Im happy for everyone to answer me, DID or not.

I

Can I offer my personal, non-moderator opinion of this?

I do understand the concern about having non-DID members try to "get it" and offer suggestions. I imagine that it would get a little tiring.

However, this FORUM is not exclusively for DID. There are other dissociative conditions and truly, everyone is welcome here as long as they aren't rude.

My suggestion would be to indicate "DID members only" or something to that effect in the title of a new thread, if that's the population you prefer to hear from. I would think that most members here would respect that.

Thoughts?

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I do understand the concern about having non-DID members try to "get it" and offer suggestions. I imagine that it would get a little tiring.

However, this FORUM is not exclusively for DID. There are other dissociative conditions and truly, everyone is welcome here as long as they aren't rude.

My suggestion would be to indicate "DID members only" or something to that effect in the title of a new thread, if that's the population you prefer to hear from. I would think that most members here would respect that.

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Thanks for your thoughts. We've said this before in this forum over the year as people come and go. We've never stated this forum is only for DID...........we quoted the Doc's intro about it being for DISSOCIATIVE DISORDERS. The forum is NOT restricted to people with the dx only but a courtesy would be for those who do not share that dx to tread lightly and with respect for those who DO deal with the challenging realities of dissociative disorders.

Could we move the safety club to Kudos? or how about Self-Esteem? just wondering why this forum has been allowed to become the clubhouse for anyone and everyone on the board who feels unsafe elsewhere? and wondering if any of those folks considered what their presence might feel like for those WITH THE DX in this forum. We're happy they're found their safety but wonder if they ever considered how they were impacting the safety of those here in this forum? Food for thought as some never think of such matters until someone raises the issues.

ya know?

What have I done to make you or others with DD feel unsafe? Whatever it was, I truly apologise but I have seen no sign anywhere that what I was posting was upsetting others, until now, apart from one image which I posted and the issue there was sorted out with those involved.
afaik, this has not become a clubhouse. However, I suspect it is in danger of becoming an empty and unused space at this rate. I have seen, in here, people with and without DD diagnoses supporting each other. And of course, not to have a DIAGNOSIS does not necessarily mean someone is not DD.

this post is a response to the whole thread............not to any one person or posting name.

if anyone wants to take what has been written personally that is your choice.

what we've written here was our opinion and was not written with any one person/poster/name in mind.

please make sure to take care or yourselves and reach out to your support networks. it is understandable to take things personally when one isn't feeling top notch. we've done that before too.

we cannot control what others think or how they interpret our words.

best wishes to all and take care of yourself/ves please.

ZH, how strange that you would want to move a thread to another forum? Cos in the one breath you are saying you can post what feels OK to you and others should not look, but in the other you suggest that the threads that make you feel uncomfortable should be moved.

I dont get it.

I dont get what people feeling unsafe and hurting has to do with Kudos or self esteem?

I feels uncomfortable to hear talk of club house cos that seems exclusive and I dont want to exclude anyone. I feel that if people want to join in, DD or not, they are welcome. I want to hear from everyone, read what they feel, let them be a part of what they want to be a part of. A clubhouse seems to indicate rules, admission fees, and exclusions. Thats not what Im about and it doesnt feel like its what anyone is about.

And in my opinion, if a little starts a thread about a place they want to feel safe, and then others come (big or small) then i feel thats a real compliment. It makes me feel proud to be part of something that people want to come to.

Caroline,

Thanks to everyone for your replies,

Take care,
Fuzzy

Sorry to "jump in".. But just wanted to say... Good Post allthegirls..

Thanks radio, its good to hear that

atg

ATG you are a wise person I would agree..I do not have the same kind of DID but I do not think this needs to be a country club....mentality....respect, safety and kindness should be all over the boards ..I hope I dont make anyone feel unsafe ...I just like it here and all of you and like this area...tis kind

sleeps im sure everyone on these boards appreciate you just as much. I know i do.

AWWW THANKS ATG

PsychCentral, in general, should be a relatively safe place for a person to come to seek support, information, and relation.

The DD forum has been unusually excepting from issues that might be affecting other parts of the board. Also, it's been, in the past, a place where a dissociator and/or any affected member can come for "special" understanding when something has happened to them IRL or at PC.

DID is one of the several dissociative disorders. I also know that, with DID, there's a mix of needs...widely varying.

I'm speaking specifically of DID here in this paragraph. We are people who have faced horrendous things; alot of those things are unspeakable. There are times when a child needs a safe place to be little, surrounded by other children who can enjoy. There are times when an angry adult needs to vent without fear of upsetting a child. There are times when a ticked off teen needs to just be heard. There are MANY needs at unpredictable times.

I think that we should focus this thread here on out, or even start a new one about announcing the particular need that we might have when posting a thread...if we can get agreement on that. There are things that very possibly could be posted that a child can't see...it would be harmful. There are times when an adult doesn't have patience for children. It's just a huge mixed bag, and neither aspect is more important than the other.

Having said all of that, I want to further say that it ALL applies to a Dissociative Disorders Forum. So, how can we give all aspects of us what we need, when we need it?

I may be way off base with this post and not understanding the need here. However, it seems to me that the bottom line is that there are many needs here and some might not be met at current time? If I'm way off base, then I apologize.

Suggestions? Should I start a new thread where all of us can make any suggestions?

I'm not arguing that all aren't welcome here. Of course, we all are. However, this is an "issue" that has come about and maybe could be beneficial to discuss wants/needs? It could be alot of fun too. I KNOW we all are creative!

Kimmy I don't know if you are or arent off base..I am very tense tonight and not thinking in my as I call it smart mode....Do you mean have a different area for littles or? I got lost I am sorry

((((((((((((((sleeps))))))))))))))))) I so understand! That's why I made my statement about being off-base.

Nope, I'm not talking about a separate place at all. I'm talking about a thread where everyone can discuss what they like here and how it can all be had with no worries (or as few as possible).

KD

BTW,..Its ME not you Kimmy ...I just didnt get what you were saying. sorry

Hi Kimmy,

Your suggestions and comments are very good ones. I think a person posting his or her needs as an adult/child/teen is the way to start. I don't think you could have done better dealing with these issues.

Hugs,

Jan