Nothing. There is none. Can't find a reason to continue day after day. Kids gone, not needed. Husband can do well on his own. Nothing to contribute to anyone's life. Just a shell. No life left. Just existing...taking up space...
Sorry, been hearing this all day inside...getting louder and stronger. Getting scary.

[silver_queen]

((((((((((((( w_i ))))))))))))))

I wish I could think of something that would help. All I can say is that I know how you feel about it...

Nothing to contribute to anyone's life.

You contribute to mine.

(((((Silver)))))
Thanks---have a T session tomorrow. who knows, maybe we'll all feel better by then?? but right now, it feels like I'm in H*** and all the insiders don't want to feel better...ever.

[Kathyanita]

If they resist feeling good maybe its that "good" has no definition or meaning in their worlds and context- like they simply cannot relate to a word/concept that is so very foriegn and out of their realm of existence.

Is it a possibility to go to a dictionary and thesourus and define in concrete terms and pictures exactly what "good" means when related to feeling and being- to see if they can start to wrap their minds around this language?

I've had to keep a dictionary handy for this purpose and here and now is the ONLY time I've ever shared that with anyone in my life. Will you try it?
Kathy

[Kathyanita]

I didn't explain this very well-

what I'm saying is that to some who resist feeling better- it may be that "better" is so open-ended-
like "better than what? Better than who? How much better is required? And mostly- what does being better do to my own role (each part) how do I remain "me" and also add this behavior or affect of "better"

It may sound risky to the whole structure or to parts to change in ANY way and so they close ranks around old ideas and feelings that are familiar- like pain and resistance.
Kathy

Kathy
Never thought of it that way...I will give it a try. Thanks. Wonder if pictures of feelings, emotions might help---littles have not much concept of language others don't seem to understand words fully.

[CedarS]

Have you seen those charts of faces with various emotions? I remember getting a hand out of one in therapy, don't have it now and I've not yet found anything good online.

You could even break out some crayons and draw some if you like.

Maybe littles can communicate through pictures, their drawings even?

[Kathyanita]

Sara, et al

this might sound unlikely- but go to a site on autism and clinical literature on educating autism spectrum disordered- they have to be taught to read faces like they are road maps in order to interpret and translate feeling implied in facial expression. Really not that far removed or unlike the limited resources for emotional intelligence that are the parts themselves.

These sites may have the illustrations and eplanations that youre looking for. I have 2 autistic nephews and keep up on the literature when I am able.

Kathy

[CedarS]

Perfect, great idea!

Autism info has helped me with some discussion on sensory stuff.

[(JD)]

(((gentle hugs))) One of the problems with society's thinking about life is that it's often hinged upon OTHERS. Now you have the real opportunity to be you, and to do things that are for you, and not for someone else or because of them.

Everyone "needs" purpose, imo, because they are human. That you can't think of anything (from the past, what you know) to do that would be fulfilling doesn't mean there isn't anything out there.

See what new stuff is around that you have never tried, or maybe heard of? Libraries can help (cheaply, too.) Learning to enjoy being with yourself, sharing in nature, discovering new things... that is a part life that some people never get to experience, imo.

[Fuzzybear]

((((((((((((((((w_i)))))))))))))))))

Am feeling a tad better this AM--still struggling with insiders that see no point in existence at all. Guess they need to be worked with...
Kathy and Sarah--I teach sign language and deaf "speak" with their facial expressions. I do have a handout for my students with different faces on them showing emotions. If I knew how to send it to you I would. I had forgotton about it until I was preparing my classes for this semester. Found other "emotion" things also in my file. Thanks.

Sky--My T says that at my age (50+) I should now enjoy life without the worries of "pleasing others or having to prove myself". How to get that across to the insiders that feel so worthless and that they have lost everything...

((((Fuzzy))))
my gentle friend. Thank you

I'm saying it again, just so you'll know I mean it.

Nothing to contribute to anyone's life.

You contribute to mine.

[Gemstone]

{{{{{ W_I }}}}}}}

[CedarS]

(((((((((((((w_i))))))))))))

How are you doing today?

This quote from earlier: "My T says that at my age (50+) I should now enjoy life without the worries of "pleasing others or having to prove myself". How to get that across to the insiders that feel so worthless and that they have lost everything... " very much resonates with me.

I'm 48, disabled and not working, I tend to be down on myself and critical. I'm slowly working on turning my focus to the fact that I am worthy and that I get to have fun. I have a chorus of inner voices that say I'm not good enough.

[SongBirdandDaisy]

I've been struggling with the same thing for a week. Saw T yesterday and he says that EVERYBODY is part of the whole - I switched then and can't remember the rest but I just want you to know that you are not alone, hang in there. Sometimes all we can do is let the feelings wash over us like a gentle wave - lots of safe hugs - Christina

[kimmydawn]

((((((((((((((((((w_i))))))))))))))))))

thinking of you.

KD

[January]

((((((((( W I )))))))))

You definately contribute to my life in a positive way. I hope the dictionary and pictures help you and the littles. If I can help you in any way, I'm right here for you.

Hugs,

Jan

[January]

KathyAnita and Sarah,

What awesome ideas! You guys are so smart!

Safe hugs to both,

Jan

[Fuzzybear]

(((((((((((((((((((w_i))))))))))))))))))))

There's someone inside who says there is no point and doesn't want us to exist anymore. I don't know her nor does Vicki or Crystal. It is all very scary.

[CedarS]

Has your T met that someone yet?

I'm thinking good thoughts your way, wanted to let you know that I read what you wrote.

no one has met her.
she punches us
she acts like my sister who
beat us
threw knives at us
tried to kill us
we don't feel very safe
but we'll be ok
we always are
cept this part is strong and mean