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Old Jun 22, 2015, 10:50 AM
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My name is Sarah and I'm one of the protectors of my system. I'm in my early 20's.
We also have Jess (17-the warrior), Adam (13-protects his twin, Amanda), Alice (adult-my backup).
We supposedly have another protector with us but she's very nasty to our host. I've heard the term 'persecutory protector' and I wonder if she applies. She doesn't want any of us to know her name, though we have hints. She will call our host names and basically make her (and others!) feel bad.
Jess is furious with The Other (can't figure out a better name for now) and told her that she will protect our host from her.
How can I make sense of The Other and her purpose for being essentially abusive?
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Old Jun 22, 2015, 02:07 PM
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My name is Sarah and I'm one of the protectors of my system. I'm in my early 20's.
We also have Jess (17-the warrior), Adam (13-protects his twin, Amanda), Alice (adult-my backup).
We supposedly have another protector with us but she's very nasty to our host. I've heard the term 'persecutory protector' and I wonder if she applies. She doesn't want any of us to know her name, though we have hints. She will call our host names and basically make her (and others!) feel bad.
Jess is furious with The Other (can't figure out a better name for now) and told her that she will protect our host from her.
How can I make sense of The Other and her purpose for being essentially abusive?
short version is that there is that only you and your treatment providers can in your words make sense of the other and he purpose for being essentially abusive....

longer version...

here in my location each of my alters had their own jobs, purposes and reasons for being who and what they are. the key wasnt in each of my alters trying to figure out the others and what the others jobs, purposes, reasons for being were, my alters just were how ever and who ever they were created to be and do... living with alternate personalities is like putting a whole bunch of people in the same room and living that way all your life, that becomes the normal.

think about something that you have done all your lifetime. thats just how and who you are right. its your normal....well the other parts of you no matter which part it is, how and who they are is their normal...

now think about how you would go about understanding who and what you are and what your job, purpose reason for being is...even normal human beings go through questioning their own identity, their purpose in life, the big question of why am I here, ...deeper questions like that... how would you go about it..

for some people this means the person searching for these kinds of answers about their self goes to therapy and digging deeper into their life, things they went through (traumas and other events too) until they discover for their self who and what they are and what their purpose in life is...

when it comes to alters understanding each other here in my location thats called having co consciousness. co consciousness is how much awareness there is in knowing each parts memories, emotions, jobs, purposes, reasons for being and much more.

for some parts like with normal people searching for their own identity, their own purpose, job, reason for being it can take years or only a short amount of time, in either case it takes therapy and hard work.

my suggestion is talk with your treatment provider, they will help you to understand why you dont know what this other parts purpose/reason for being is and whether its possible for you to develop co consciousness with this part so that you do know that information.
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Old Jun 22, 2015, 04:26 PM
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i don't have advice to offer but can relate to having a part (or parts even) that are abusive, harmful, etc.

i have never understood those of mine or why they did/do what they do. all i know is trying to deal with it as best as possible is the only thing i can do. what is scary to me is a particular part of mine (that thankfully rarely is around) that has an incredible mental ability to take over (not physical which is for the best) and say very horrible things and try to convince me/others to do something really bad.

i had an incident maybe two years ago now where that happened. i physically was barely able to move, and i could only lie there and barely had any strength to even fight with that part. it was all internal even though i could not really see him, but i could hear him talking. it was so scary because it took everything i had to fight against his power. i wasn't able to talk to anyone or phone for help...and i think he took those options away (as in i was not really aware that anything much existed outside of what was going on internally). i am not sure if i was also blended with another more vulnerable, smaller part at the same time (confusing to try to explain that)....but things like that are very difficult to sort through.

some parts really want nothing to do with others or maybe (for me ) they are only there to cause harm...i am not sure. but i also wish i could find a way to actually communicate better with mine.....i used to be able to more years ago..and then it just stopped as some things got better in my life.

i don't even know how it all works for me to start with. more like a confusing mess it seems..no consistency or pattern for when one might reappear, etc.
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Old Jun 22, 2015, 04:28 PM
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My name is Sarah and I'm one of the protectors of my system. I'm in my early 20's.
We also have Jess (17-the warrior), Adam (13-protects his twin, Amanda), Alice (adult-my backup).
We supposedly have another protector with us but she's very nasty to our host. I've heard the term 'persecutory protector' and I wonder if she applies. She doesn't want any of us to know her name, though we have hints. She will call our host names and basically make her (and others!) feel bad.
Jess is furious with The Other (can't figure out a better name for now) and told her that she will protect our host from her.
How can I make sense of The Other and her purpose for being essentially abusive?
Oh Sweety, i couldn't tell Ya hun. We here label each other by the job we do. You can say my Angry One is a protector I guess because he's instantly triggered to protect us from injustice, but on the same token, he gets loose and runs amuck in a horrific manner ruining relationships and embarrassing us deeply...the aftermath is so ******.

I have alters that sounds like my abuser, always putting me down when things go awry. I've got to tell it to STFU once I realize that it's terrorizing us.

I hope you find your answers.
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Old Jun 22, 2015, 05:35 PM
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My name is Sarah and I'm one of the protectors of my system. I'm in my early 20's.
We also have Jess (17-the warrior), Adam (13-protects his twin, Amanda), Alice (adult-my backup).
We supposedly have another protector with us but she's very nasty to our host. I've heard the term 'persecutory protector' and I wonder if she applies. She doesn't want any of us to know her name, though we have hints. She will call our host names and basically make her (and others!) feel bad.
Jess is furious with The Other (can't figure out a better name for now) and told her that she will protect our host from her.
How can I make sense of The Other and her purpose for being essentially abusive?
I don't have a "host". I have alters who take turns hosting so I am not sure if my experience is similar to yours. What I have learned overtime is there is a reason for everything we alters do. Even when our actions appear out of step. I have found that some of us react with actions that suited us long ago but no longer apply to today. I have one alter who used to hit our face very hard. It hurt but strangely enough it also caused a release of tension which felt good. The hitter was hitting to release tension and not so much to hurt us. Part of it was she wanted to degrade the alter by hitting but the greater gain was that huge amounts of tension were released when hitting. It was almost like creating a familiar event from our childhood that created a sense of normalcy in the present. It's difficult to explain thoroughly. What we did was ask the hitter why she was hitting. She thought it was the right thing to do and that it relieved tension. We explained that no one is allowed to hurt the body. That wasn't always a consideration but we now all agree that it is wrong to hurt the body. So our hitter will still sometimes say "hit" but we take some deep breaths and tell her "no" we can't hurt the body and hitting is not a way of helping. She isn't always happy with this decision but she refrains from hitting in support of the system. I hope this made sense.
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Old Jun 22, 2015, 05:46 PM
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I don't have a "host". I have alters who take turns hosting so I am not sure if my experience is similar to yours. What I have learned overtime is there is a reason for everything we alters do. Even when our actions appear out of step. I have found that some of us react with actions that suited us long ago but no longer apply to today. I have one alter who used to hit our face very hard. It hurt but strangely enough it also caused a release of tension which felt good. The hitter was hitting to release tension and not so much to hurt us. Part of it was she wanted to degrade the alter by hitting but the greater gain was that huge amounts of tension were released when hitting. It was almost like creating a familiar event from our childhood that created a sense of normalcy in the present. It's difficult to explain thoroughly. What we did was ask the hitter why she was hitting. She thought it was the right thing to do and that it relieved tension. We explained that no one is allowed to hurt the body. That wasn't always a consideration but we now all agree that it is wrong to hurt the body. So our hitter will still sometimes say "hit" but we take some deep breaths and tell her "no" we can't hurt the body and hitting is not a way of helping. She isn't always happy with this decision but she refrains from hitting in support of the system. I hope this made sense.

Exactly. We are a crowd where everyone has a specialality, and when their talents are required, they step up and do what they were born to do. Sure there is an inner system, but I figure that all runs on automatic, as long as I don't explode too much. Self analysis, I'll only go so far. All I know is I know. I'm happy with that.
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Old Jul 02, 2015, 04:30 AM
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Thank you everyone for your thoughts, sharing your experiences and your insight.
Things with The Other have gotten a little better since. She is apparently "freaked out" at the thought of there being more alters besides herself. She had no awareness of the rest of us until recently.
She has been talking to our psychiatrist and our T and has been receptive to their suggestions on what to do. She introduced herself in our journal and a few of us wrote back.
She has apologized for being insulting toward Angela, but she says she won't apologize for being herself. Fair enough.
I feel a little silly for writing for her so I will stop right here lol

Sarah

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