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Old Jul 13, 2015, 08:00 PM
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I was told to post in this section about my problem.

So, I'm wondering why I feel a desire at times that I would like to be schizophrenic locked-in inside my mind. What is this exactly. And what to do about it. (I know this may sound strange, yes.)

When I feel this desire, I start seeing random negative images overlaying physically visible reality that I normally see with my two eyes. And, weirdly enough, it's like, it feels so so addictive good for a bit, then it goes away when I suddenly realize I don't want it that much after all.

To clarify...if I was locked-in like that, it'd just be me seeing these things all day, locked into that non-real world. Like I wouldn't have to deal with the real world anymore. My mind would not have to take in reality anymore. Could just give up on it and enjoy the negative imagery instead in my mind.

This whole desire and the images went away for a while for a few weeks this Spring. Then very recently I started feeling a stronger than ever pull towards this. I had a stronger version of overlaying too.

I mean, to me something only qualifies as a hallucination if what you are imagining does not go away when you actually directly look at the object. Well, that kinda happened now. Though not totally because I of course knew that it wasn't logical to see those things. So they did not feel fully real but...yeah, that was kinda a stronger effect than what I had before.

To clarify that more, about the images overlaying the actual sensory visual input, it's just literally that, my mind ignores the sensory input and sees something else instead, some image(s) that's loaded with negative content. This is with me directly looking at objects, not just from the corner of my eye.

I did previously have two episodes that would qualify as at least a partial loss of connection with reality. For short times (for a few minutes) nearly full loss of it. In those cases I was not cognizant of what was real and what was not real so not the same issue as I'm having now. Those happened about 2.5 and 3.5 years ago but they both had the same specific trigger that I will not allow to happen anymore.

I also have a feeling that whatever things may be troubling me that cause this feeling of pull towards this crap, are things that I'm basically betting my life on...if it doesn't get solved, I'm done for, my life is over, my mind -and my mental health with it- could totally just crack.

Any thoughts? Thanks.
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Old Jul 13, 2015, 08:40 PM
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Hi! It sounds so much like derealism to me, or at least closely related. Hallucinations is when the sub-conscious images are seeable in the consciousness.

Derealism isn't a hallucination, it's a disorder.

I can be just fine, then everything changes to unreality. Things that I know are real, but aren't real according to what I know and see. It's like looking at everything that I've looked at forever and now it's existence is fresh, new, and foreign.

It's like entering a bubble and life as I know it is not. All I can do is sit and wait till it passes, or do some grounding techniques to bring me back in touch with reality.

It's so totally weird, but I've learned that it's a free ride to the incredibly unreal that it doesn't bother me at all. I hope that this helps you!
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Old Jul 13, 2015, 09:51 PM
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I was told to post in this section about my problem.

So, I'm wondering why I feel a desire at times that I would like to be schizophrenic locked-in inside my mind. What is this exactly. And what to do about it. (I know this may sound strange, yes.)

When I feel this desire, I start seeing random negative images overlaying physically visible reality that I normally see with my two eyes. And, weirdly enough, it's like, it feels so so addictive good for a bit, then it goes away when I suddenly realize I don't want it that much after all.

To clarify...if I was locked-in like that, it'd just be me seeing these things all day, locked into that non-real world. Like I wouldn't have to deal with the real world anymore. My mind would not have to take in reality anymore. Could just give up on it and enjoy the negative imagery instead in my mind.

This whole desire and the images went away for a while for a few weeks this Spring. Then very recently I started feeling a stronger than ever pull towards this. I had a stronger version of overlaying too.

I mean, to me something only qualifies as a hallucination if what you are imagining does not go away when you actually directly look at the object. Well, that kinda happened now. Though not totally because I of course knew that it wasn't logical to see those things. So they did not feel fully real but...yeah, that was kinda a stronger effect than what I had before.

To clarify that more, about the images overlaying the actual sensory visual input, it's just literally that, my mind ignores the sensory input and sees something else instead, some image(s) that's loaded with negative content. This is with me directly looking at objects, not just from the corner of my eye.

I did previously have two episodes that would qualify as at least a partial loss of connection with reality. For short times (for a few minutes) nearly full loss of it. In those cases I was not cognizant of what was real and what was not real so not the same issue as I'm having now. Those happened about 2.5 and 3.5 years ago but they both had the same specific trigger that I will not allow to happen anymore.

I also have a feeling that whatever things may be troubling me that cause this feeling of pull towards this crap, are things that I'm basically betting my life on...if it doesn't get solved, I'm done for, my life is over, my mind -and my mental health with it- could totally just crack.

Any thoughts? Thanks.
here in my location no this would not be dissociation or a dissociative disorder. in my location it would be called fictitious disorder imposed on self. the reason it would be called that in my location is the words...desiring to have a mental disorder, in my location it is also called psychosis (seeing, hearing things that are not real aka hallucinations\delusional) here in my location the psychological definition of a hallucination is when a person is seeing things that are not real, ie seeing someone when in reality there is no one there, hearing a sound when there is no reason behind the sound ie a car beep but no traffic, hearing a tv but all the tv's are turned off.

the mind is an amazing thing it can conjure up anything just by our thinking and imagining it....

depersonalization derealization in my location is not about having internal worlds/being locked in ones mind. its feelings of numbness, feeling like you are watching what is going on in the real world just not connected to it or to yourself.

here in my location having an internal imaginary world is sometimes called psychosis and many other things depending upon other accompanying symptoms.

what is locked in ones mind well here in my location if you go to a mental hospital and visit someone who is catatonic you will understand what locked in the mind is. its basically you are not physically moving, thinking or interacting with the outside world. you dont respond when someone is talking to you. many people who are "locked in their minds" never come out of the mental hospitals. they pretty much live their life in a state mental hospital where the treatment team works to come up with the right combination of psychotropic medications and other treatments to get the person back to reality.

I know that sometimes you dream\imagine this happening to you but once you visit a state mental hospital and see what it really is likeim guessing you wont want that any more. I mean can you imagine not being able to even use the restroom because you are locked in your mind. you dont realize you have to go so the body just physically goes and doctors and nurses have to change, bath you, sometimes restrain you to your bed because of the possibility of you physically harming yourself with out realizing it because you are catatonic (locked in your mind)

my suggestion contact your or a treatment provider, they can help you with this and understanding why you want to cause yourself to have a mental disorder and psychotic symptoms like leaving reality for an internal world.

one way to tell when something is a dissociative problem vs something else is with dissociative problems reality testing remains intact. what that means is the person does not loss touch with whats real and what isnt.

you mention schizophrenic symptoms there is a schizophrenia board here that you may find interesting and there may be others there that desire having schizophrenic like symptoms that you desire.
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Old Jul 13, 2015, 10:45 PM
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I was told to post in this section about my problem.

So, I'm wondering why I feel a desire at times that I would like to be schizophrenic locked-in inside my mind. What is this exactly. And what to do about it. (I know this may sound strange, yes.)

When I feel this desire, I start seeing random negative images overlaying physically visible reality that I normally see with my two eyes. And, weirdly enough, it's like, it feels so so addictive good for a bit, then it goes away when I suddenly realize I don't want it that much after all.

To clarify...if I was locked-in like that, it'd just be me seeing these things all day, locked into that non-real world. Like I wouldn't have to deal with the real world anymore. My mind would not have to take in reality anymore. Could just give up on it and enjoy the negative imagery instead in my mind.

This whole desire and the images went away for a while for a few weeks this Spring. Then very recently I started feeling a stronger than ever pull towards this. I had a stronger version of overlaying too.

I mean, to me something only qualifies as a hallucination if what you are imagining does not go away when you actually directly look at the object. Well, that kinda happened now. Though not totally because I of course knew that it wasn't logical to see those things. So they did not feel fully real but...yeah, that was kinda a stronger effect than what I had before.

To clarify that more, about the images overlaying the actual sensory visual input, it's just literally that, my mind ignores the sensory input and sees something else instead, some image(s) that's loaded with negative content. This is with me directly looking at objects, not just from the corner of my eye.

I did previously have two episodes that would qualify as at least a partial loss of connection with reality. For short times (for a few minutes) nearly full loss of it. In those cases I was not cognizant of what was real and what was not real so not the same issue as I'm having now. Those happened about 2.5 and 3.5 years ago but they both had the same specific trigger that I will not allow to happen anymore.

I also have a feeling that whatever things may be troubling me that cause this feeling of pull towards this crap, are things that I'm basically betting my life on...if it doesn't get solved, I'm done for, my life is over, my mind -and my mental health with it- could totally just crack.

Any thoughts? Thanks.

Is there anyway this could be a side effect from some medication you may be taking.
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Old Jul 14, 2015, 01:05 AM
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Hi! It sounds so much like derealism to me, or at least closely related. Hallucinations is when the sub-conscious images are seeable in the consciousness.
Well yes, those subconscious images is what I am seeing in this state. Apparently my subconscious is pretty negative as all these images are of a terribly negative content. That I then just soak up...

So maybe you misread some part in my post?

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Derealism isn't a hallucination, it's a disorder.

I can be just fine, then everything changes to unreality. Things that I know are real, but aren't real according to what I know and see. It's like looking at everything that I've looked at forever and now it's existence is fresh, new, and foreign.
OK that's not what I experience, I don't just see a fresh/unreal perspective on things, I actually see different things, not the things that are actually present around me physically. But I do know they are not real, so...not entirely a psychotic hallucination either?

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It's like entering a bubble and life as I know it is not. All I can do is sit and wait till it passes, or do some grounding techniques to bring me back in touch with reality.

It's so totally weird, but I've learned that it's a free ride to the incredibly unreal that it doesn't bother me at all. I hope that this helps you!
Heh it does feel like a ride to somewhere... into the negative contents buried in my mind

Does that make any sense to you?

Thanks!
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Old Jul 14, 2015, 01:06 AM
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Is there anyway this could be a side effect from some medication you may be taking.
No I'm not taking any medication :|

That would be nice if it was just that

Many thanks for the input though!
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Old Jul 14, 2015, 02:23 AM
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Hey Tiger8,

I totally get that too. No idea what / why / how it is, but I wish it didn't happen! Has a tendency to ruin anything good!
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Old Jul 14, 2015, 06:18 AM
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Hey Tiger8,

I totally get that too. No idea what / why / how it is, but I wish it didn't happen! Has a tendency to ruin anything good!
Is it exactly like this for you? Any differences?
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Old Jul 14, 2015, 10:03 AM
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I was told to post in this section about my problem.

So, I'm wondering why I feel a desire at times that I would like to be schizophrenic locked-in inside my mind. What is this exactly. And what to do about it. (I know this may sound strange, yes.)

When I feel this desire, I start seeing random negative images overlaying physically visible reality that I normally see with my two eyes. And, weirdly enough, it's like, it feels so so addictive good for a bit, then it goes away when I suddenly realize I don't want it that much after all.

To clarify...if I was locked-in like that, it'd just be me seeing these things all day, locked into that non-real world. Like I wouldn't have to deal with the real world anymore. My mind would not have to take in reality anymore. Could just give up on it and enjoy the negative imagery instead in my mind.

This whole desire and the images went away for a while for a few weeks this Spring. Then very recently I started feeling a stronger than ever pull towards this. I had a stronger version of overlaying too.

I mean, to me something only qualifies as a hallucination if what you are imagining does not go away when you actually directly look at the object. Well, that kinda happened now. Though not totally because I of course knew that it wasn't logical to see those things. So they did not feel fully real but...yeah, that was kinda a stronger effect than what I had before.

To clarify that more, about the images overlaying the actual sensory visual input, it's just literally that, my mind ignores the sensory input and sees something else instead, some image(s) that's loaded with negative content. This is with me directly looking at objects, not just from the corner of my eye.

I did previously have two episodes that would qualify as at least a partial loss of connection with reality. For short times (for a few minutes) nearly full loss of it. In those cases I was not cognizant of what was real and what was not real so not the same issue as I'm having now. Those happened about 2.5 and 3.5 years ago but they both had the same specific trigger that I will not allow to happen anymore.

I also have a feeling that whatever things may be troubling me that cause this feeling of pull towards this crap, are things that I'm basically betting my life on...if it doesn't get solved, I'm done for, my life is over, my mind -and my mental health with it- could totally just crack.

Any thoughts? Thanks.
I'm sorry, I did misread it. It's not hard too after a few drinks
It was very descriptive that the wording confused me.

Any chance you had a MRI or CAT scan lately? Have you talked to your Pdoc/GP about any of this?

Only reason I suggested derealism is the unreality of it all, but I don't hallucinate either.

It would take a pro that knows your history to help DX you.

But, if I had to speculate...

I was just reading an article that said skitzophrenia doesn't have a certain gene but a combination of many that causes it, much like bipolar has, which makes it difficult to test for. It also has environmental factors based on studies of identical twins where one has the illness and the other has a 48% risk of it happening to them, much like diabetes activates from genetic and environmental factors.

What if....you are prone to dissociation and the other that presents is skitzophrenic? Far fetched? An other can have its own set of mental issues.

Dissociation is mostly a triggered response.

Have you been tested for dissociation? Did you suffer trauma or emotional/mental/physical/sexual abuse as a child, especially before the age of 5? Or an extended time period of traumatic abuse?

I don't know if this is even possible and I'm not a professional or anything. It's an imagined scenario that can be presented to a professional for a professional opinion followed by testing?

The mind is an amazing organ that's not really understood yet.

Science fiction?

This is my best guess. Please don't hate me.

Good luck.

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Old Jul 14, 2015, 03:30 PM
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Is it exactly like this for you? Any differences?
There are some differences - it seems like we have a similar experience but react differently. That, and by the sounds of it your 'overlay' is to objects, whereas my 'overlay' is on people. This was the line that most resonated with me:

'To clarify that more, about the images overlaying the actual sensory visual input, it's just literally that, my mind ignores the sensory input and sees something else instead, some image(s) that's loaded with negative content. This is with me directly looking at objects, not just from the corner of my eye'.

Most recently, I was talking to someone, and something they said triggered me and the next thing I know, Im still standing there, and Im looking at them, but Im also 'seeing' them in an abstract world. I can't any longer communicate with him in real life, but in the abstract world Im seeing him with all sorts of 'negative imagery'. Although I am completely aware it wasn't real, I can feel inside me reacting as if it is real. The biggest difference between us is that I feel the complete opposite of compelled or drawn in to this world. I want to run away screaming. I hate that this negative imagery can have such a bad affect on a good relationship. That it can intrude on my life whenever something good is happening. I really want it to stop.
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Old Jul 14, 2015, 10:47 PM
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I'm sorry, I did misread it. It's not hard too after a few drinks
It was very descriptive that the wording confused me.
No worries

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Any chance you had a MRI or CAT scan lately? Have you talked to your Pdoc/GP about any of this?
No but I'm very sure this is a psychological issue

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Only reason I suggested derealism is the unreality of it all, but I don't hallucinate either.

It would take a pro that knows your history to help DX you.

But, if I had to speculate...

I was just reading an article that said skitzophrenia doesn't have a certain gene but a combination of many that causes it, much like bipolar has, which makes it difficult to test for. It also has environmental factors based on studies of identical twins where one has the illness and the other has a 48% risk of it happening to them, much like diabetes activates from genetic and environmental factors.

What if....you are prone to dissociation and the other that presents is skitzophrenic? Far fetched? An other can have its own set of mental issues.
That's certainly a thought..

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Dissociation is mostly a triggered response.
Hm. Most of these cases with the imagery were not directly triggered by anything but the last stronger one was triggered!

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Have you been tested for dissociation? Did you suffer trauma or emotional/mental/physical/sexual abuse as a child, especially before the age of 5? Or an extended time period of traumatic abuse?
How do I test for it? Did you mean done by a psychiatrist?

No abuse in my history

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Why would I hate you?! Thanks again for your post.
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Old Jul 14, 2015, 10:51 PM
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There are some differences - it seems like we have a similar experience but react differently. That, and by the sounds of it your 'overlay' is to objects, whereas my 'overlay' is on people. This was the line that most resonated with me:

'To clarify that more, about the images overlaying the actual sensory visual input, it's just literally that, my mind ignores the sensory input and sees something else instead, some image(s) that's loaded with negative content. This is with me directly looking at objects, not just from the corner of my eye'.

Most recently, I was talking to someone, and something they said triggered me and the next thing I know, Im still standing there, and Im looking at them, but Im also 'seeing' them in an abstract world. I can't any longer communicate with him in real life, but in the abstract world Im seeing him with all sorts of 'negative imagery'. Although I am completely aware it wasn't real, I can feel inside me reacting as if it is real. The biggest difference between us is that I feel the complete opposite of compelled or drawn in to this world. I want to run away screaming. I hate that this negative imagery can have such a bad affect on a good relationship. That it can intrude on my life whenever something good is happening. I really want it to stop.
Oh that's very interesting.. :s I hope you'll get it sorted out. Do you have a diagnosis btw?

I wish I wanted to run away screaming too.. but I'm instead feeling that desire/pull... is what really weirds me out if I think about it. That's what gives me the feeling/hunch that it really means my mind is gonna break down due to inability to cope with reality any longer. Because, while I don't know what is actually happening, I do know it's to do with (not) coping with reality.

And if one day I get pulled into this enough and give up on coping with reality, I don't know what's next then..
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Old Jul 14, 2015, 10:55 PM
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FYI...I don't need a trigger to switch. If an other wants out, they come out. Even their name triggers an out. It just happens. Good luck
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Old Jul 16, 2015, 12:55 AM
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Oh that's very interesting.. :s I hope you'll get it sorted out. Do you have a diagnosis btw?
Nope - no diagnosis - but thats because my T doesn't diagnose anyone with anything. He mentions 'trauma' and 'dissociated states', so thats as close as I get to a diagnosis! Im not on any meds - but thats because I refuse to take any head meds. When Ive tried them they've only ever made me feel worse.

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if one day I get pulled into this enough and give up on coping with reality, I don't know what's next then..
That sounds quite scary Is there something about reality you don't like, or want to avoid? Somewhere there will be a reason why the negative imagery is drawing you in.
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Old Sep 27, 2015, 11:06 PM
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FYI...I don't need a trigger to switch. If an other wants out, they come out. Even their name triggers an out. It just happens. Good luck
What "other"? If dissociative disorders have such criteria of having an "other" or whatever (this sounds like in DID), I definitely do not have a dissociative disorder then.
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Old Sep 27, 2015, 11:07 PM
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Nope - no diagnosis - but thats because my T doesn't diagnose anyone with anything. He mentions 'trauma' and 'dissociated states', so thats as close as I get to a diagnosis! Im not on any meds - but thats because I refuse to take any head meds. When Ive tried them they've only ever made me feel worse.
Good, why take meds if you can manage without them.

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That sounds quite scary Is there something about reality you don't like, or want to avoid? Somewhere there will be a reason why the negative imagery is drawing you in.
Sorry I only got back to this forum now.

Yeah, I figure there is something I want to avoid... I've delved in a bit more lately about that. It's to do with people and emotions mainly
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Old Sep 28, 2015, 07:15 PM
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What "other"? If dissociative disorders have such criteria of having an "other" or whatever (this sounds like in DID), I definitely do not have a dissociative disorder then.
You don't have to have "others" when you dissociate. Dissociating is separating from the present reality. Usually it's triggered, but I guess it can be random? Idk.

I can't begin to say what's up with you. Everyone dissociates, I just happen to take it to a whole other level, that's all.

There are times when I go into a daze and an other steps up. DR/DP just comes on as far as I can tell. I can be sitting on my bed and then a disconnected feeling takes over and it's like I'm in a strangers room. I'll stare at everything but have no form of attachment.

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Old Sep 29, 2015, 12:06 AM
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You don't have to have "others" when you dissociate. Dissociating is separating from the present reality. Usually it's triggered, but I guess it can be random? Idk.

I can't begin to say what's up with you. Everyone dissociates, I just happen to take it to a whole other level, that's all.

There are times when I go into a daze and an other steps up. DR/DP just comes on as far as I can tell. I can be sitting on my bed and then a disconnected feeling takes over and it's like I'm in a strangers room. I'll stare at everything but have no form of attachment.
I've not had the issue in the last month or so (save for 1-2 seconds here or there) so I'm good right now

That disconnected feeling, if you mean you are disconnected from environment and people, I had that for YEARS starting when I was 18.

Where it was mostly disconnect from feelings, emotions, ways of relating to people and lack of direct involvement with them and with the environment in general.

I did recognize the environment as normal though, just had a lack of direct involvement. Lack of some sorts of arousals. Idk. Is this what you meant by no form of attachment?

Then it went away somehow, by my isolating myself for long enough from the world, I guess. That allowed me to have some mental rest...?

It did not involve an "other" though
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Old Sep 29, 2015, 09:40 AM
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I did recognize the environment as normal though, just had a lack of direct involvement. Lack of some sorts of arousals. Idk. Is this what you meant by no form of attachment?

What we meant was everything in our room, the belongings, the room, the bed, doesn't register as mine, like I was sitting in someone else's room with a touch of unreality to it. Even my body parts like look and feel foreign and unreal.

More a disconnect from reality would be a better way of saying it I guess.
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Old Sep 29, 2015, 05:28 PM
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What we meant was everything in our room, the belongings, the room, the bed, doesn't register as mine, like I was sitting in someone else's room with a touch of unreality to it. Even my body parts like look and feel foreign and unreal.

More a disconnect from reality would be a better way of saying it I guess.
OK, I never had that then. When I talk of disconnect I talk about feeling disconnected from people, unable to connect, whatever, that sort of stuff, perhaps a better word is emotional disconnect, just getting detached from some visceral stuff and not like this full-on derealization. My body and my belongings would still be registered fine as mine. I don't have this disconnect issue anymore like I did many years ago, anyway.
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Old Sep 30, 2015, 03:34 PM
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Hi Tiger8,

I can't know for sure what is causing your problem, but I can offer a couple of possibilities.

It sounds like by being in your own head all the time, it provides some feeling of safety for you, even if it's negative images that you see. As upsetting as those images might be, you are probably used to them. Perhaps you feel that being "in the real world" would be much scarier and more threatening than remaining in your own little world inside your head.

Also, I didn't think you sounded like you wanted to have a mental disorder when you said you'd like to be in a psych hospital. Again, to me, it sounded like you feel that it would provide you with a feeling of safety from having to deal with things in the real world.

Is there something about being in the real world that feel scary or threatening to you (maybe even more upsetting than the negative images in your mind?)

The other thing I thought about when reading your post was a book I read "A Beautiful Mind," about the genius mathematician John Nash, who had schizophrenia. I recall that he saw hallucinations that he realized, over time, were not real. Even with treatment, they never disappeared totally. But because he usually saw the same things every time, he just learned to tell himself "This is just a hallucination" and not allow himself to get freaked out or pulled into responding to the hallucinations.

I would recommend that you see a mental health professional who can make an accurate diagnosis. It sounds serious enough that it interferes with your daily life. It has to be upsetting to repeatedly visualize negative things over and over. Also, when you have those episodes, you are not able to concentrate on what is happening physically in the present moment. That sort of lack of awareness can be dangerous (you could hallucinate while driving, walk out in front of a car because you are distracted by your own thoughts, etc.).
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Old Sep 30, 2015, 05:48 PM
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Is there something about being in the real world that feel scary or threatening to you (maybe even more upsetting than the negative images in your mind?)
Thanks for your post Yeah I figured out since then that I'm blocking out part of the world actually, the part that has people in it... for some reason I just can't look at or engage in that part of the world most of the time.

This in practice means I'm often sitting at home in isolation and just think and be kind of locked in my head without even noticing and it leaving little energy to do things beyond the basic daily tasks. Because if I do things beyond that, I'm going to be involved in that part of the world?!

(And if I do get involved sometimes then I'll have weird episodes and emotional dysregulation)

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I would recommend that you see a mental health professional who can make an accurate diagnosis.
Yes I'm looking though even that makes me feel like I want to run away because of all that stuff with therapists expecting me to talk about feelings and connect emotionally. I'm not able to do that. (I've tried going to some psychologists already, no good)
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Old Oct 01, 2015, 07:01 AM
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Having an internal world is psychosis?
I had not heard that before.
Can you be more specific? I thought a big part of DID was having an internal world, not necessarily in the DSM definition, but in patient experience observed by clinicians. Does that mean DID is often psychosis?
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Having an internal world is psychosis?
I had not heard that before.
Can you be more specific? I thought a big part of DID was having an internal world, not necessarily in the DSM definition, but in patient experience observed by clinicians. Does that mean DID is often psychosis?


yes for some people having an internal world is psychosis..

psychosis is a state of mind where reality testing does ...not...remain intact. the person has lost their ability to know what is real and what is not.

with DID reality testing remains intact, which means the person with this disorder knows whats real and what isnt, they know their internal world is not real life, they know their internal world is not where they live, its just their place in which they escape to when triggered.

another way to look at this is hold a piece of fruit. you know you are holding a piece of fruit, now put the fruit down and close your eyes and think about that fruit. open your eyes. now which was real and which was the thought....

thats the difference between psychosis and DID people with DID know which was them actually holding the fruit and which was the thought of holding the fruit.

with psychosis its a situation where the person believes both were one and the same or that the thought was the real action of actually holding the fruit.

with dissociation reality testing remains intact. a person may.... feel..... numb, spaced out, foggy headed but they know in reality physically there is no nerve damage, brain damage, eye sight damage causing this problem.

my internal world is sitting by a stream. I know that stream is not real and that in reality I am sitting here at my computer typing. I know that there really is not a stream running through my house, no leaves floating down a stream inside my house.

but if this was psychosis I would not realize that I am in my home, sitting at the computer typing this post, I would believe with all my heart that my home, computer and typing was not real, that i actually live where there is a stream running through my home and leaves floating down that stream.

for some people their internal worlds have a sense of reality but over all they know which is real and which is the mental internal world. like holding the fruit vs thinking about the fruit.

here in my location no DID is not psychosis because reality testing remains intact. to find out what your own treatment providers and location go by you will need to contact your treatment providers.

hope that helped.
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Old Oct 01, 2015, 06:15 PM
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Having an internal world is psychosis?
I had not heard that before.
Can you be more specific? I thought a big part of DID was having an internal world, not necessarily in the DSM definition, but in patient experience observed by clinicians. Does that mean DID is often psychosis?
Who said that the two are the same? I think I missed that post...?
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