As we know...mom is here...yes mom. She's always told us that nothing happened to us as a baby....but she just told me that we/I were born a 7 month preemie.

Can this be it? Incubated for a month....We've been searching for the root tramua....and here it is I think.

Of course this screwed us for the abuse that came to follow...the destruction of our spirit for the next 18 years not being able to understand nor barely handle childhood into adult life...and then some even today 49 years later.

This of course has soften some resentments towards our father figure....now the blame is no longer his....not sure to where to go with all this....

[Moose72]

I was born at 31 weeks. You are only 5 years older than I am. Even so, I was high-risk to be born then, and I would think that five years earlier you were even more fragile.

Preemie life wasn't fun, as my parents tell it: I had NEC: Necrotizing Enterocolitis, an infection of the large intestine, for one thing. Babies at 7 months did about as well as the 26 weekers do today. (I'm making a guess based on what I've heard.)

I've had intestinal problems all my life and can blame preemiehood on that. I don't see why you can't blame your preemiehood for some of your issues too.

[Solnutty]

I was also born a preemie, to a mother with severe depression.

[amandalouise]

Originally Posted by AlwaysChanging2

As we know...mom is here...yes mom. She's always told us that nothing happened to us as a baby....but she just told me that we/I were born a 7 month preemie.

Can this be it? Incubated for a month....We've been searching for the root tramua....and here it is I think.

Of course this screwed us for the abuse that came to follow...the destruction of our spirit for the next 18 years not being able to understand nor barely handle childhood into adult life...and then some even today 49 years later.

This of course has soften some resentments towards our father figure....now the blame is no longer his....not sure to where to go with all this....

I have always known I was a premie baby but where I was born it was normal to have premature births due to many factors. I never considered this as a factor of my trauma's that caused me to become DID. when I think now about being incubated for me it was probably just like being in the womb... warm enclosed space with a food source, a source of oxygen, hearing my relatives voices, the feeling my parents touch. in short my premie brain didnt have all the neuron pathways of for example a toddler or preschool child, teen or adult... neuron pathways form from our experiences and new ones form every day with each situation we go through.. all my brain scans as a premie showed were the normal premie neuron pathways that every new born baby has... those leading to the parts of the brain for regulating breathing, eating, heart rate, basic things a fetus has while still in the womb.

suggestion maybe you can contact the places where you were born. they will be able to look at all the records that the hospitals have to keep on premies even decades ago like brain scans, vitals, what levels the levels all the machines were on when they had you in the incubator, they can tell you if there was anything abnormal about your brain when you were born.

I was born in Thailand....not exactly a place about cutting edge technology in the late 60's. Idk....something mucked my head up. Maybe all of it?

I understand that not making or breaking that child/mother bond can be perceived as traumatic to an infant, but there is plenty of time for all that in the next few years.

[amandalouise]

Originally Posted by AlwaysChanging2

I was born in Thailand....not exactly a place about cutting edge technology in the late 60's. Idk....something mucked my head up. Maybe all of it?

I understand that not making or breaking that child/mother bond can be perceived as traumatic to an infant, but there is plenty of time for all that in the next few years.

if I remembering my medical history right thailand had medical equipment long before america did. they even had medical equipment during the vietnam war era. I mean they couldnt treat their military injured if they didnt have the equipment needed during the war era in the 1950's.

even now at the local hospital I see many old medical equipment from back in those days and many of them bears the made in japan, china and germany tags.

I have a friend from Thailand and she was once was telling me of going to work with her mother (a nurse) during the war and after, loving to watch the brain scanners and visiting all the babies. Its what made her want to become a doctor.

she remembers the war and that hospital records were held in a safe place underground so that if they had any problems during the wars at the very least their hospital records could be retrieved because they showed history. the ones that they got rid of were the ones where they were able to confirm death situations from war time back then... even now medical records for back in those days are kept in order to identify any one should their remains show up.

give it a try you might be pleasantly surprised at what you find.

also if it turns out your files are irretrievable your present medical records will show if you have had any pre existing conditions like embolisms, cerebral palsy, and other brain trauma's that happen due to medical equipment and premature births. your medical doctor can order all the brain scans that can confirm or deny any traumatic brain injuries you may have had. traumatic brain injuries cause all kinds of physical health problems.

my point is if it worries you its worth checking out.... and there are ways to check out what happened to your brain due to premature birth...

Originally Posted by amandalouise

if I remembering my medical history right thailand had medical equipment long before america did. they even had medical equipment during the vietnam war era. I mean they couldnt treat their military injured if they didnt have the equipment needed during the war era in the 1950's.

even now at the local hospital I see many old medical equipment from back in those days and many of them bears the made in japan, china and germany tags.

I have a friend from Thailand and she was once was telling me of going to work with her mother (a nurse) during the war and after, loving to watch the brain scanners and visiting all the babies. Its what made her want to become a doctor.

she remembers the war and that hospital records were held in a safe place underground so that if they had any problems during the wars at the very least their hospital records could be retrieved because they showed history. the ones that they got rid of were the ones where they were able to confirm death situations from war time back then... even now medical records for back in those days are kept in order to identify any one should their remains show up.

give it a try you might be pleasantly surprised at what you find.

also if it turns out your files are irretrievable your present medical records will show if you have had any pre existing conditions like embolisms, cerebral palsy, and other brain trauma's that happen due to medical equipment and premature births. your medical doctor can order all the brain scans that can confirm or deny any traumatic brain injuries you may have had. traumatic brain injuries cause all kinds of physical health problems.

my point is if it worries you its worth checking out.... and there are ways to check out what happened to your brain due to premature birth...

Thank you...I must have to try. Who would have known. Mum just said that they had better equipment then Vietnam and China at the time.

My birth certificate looks nothing like todays. Its a State Department issue and green with no details.

I was hoping for a nonabuse reason of cause...

my mom and i didnt have the time to bond when i was born either- she was in a coma.Sometimes I wonder if thats part of the challenges I have.

[Gr3tta_0]

I was born blue - due to being too cold. I was taken away and put in an incubator, and my mother didn't see or touch me right away. It was awhile. I've never really thought of that as a cause for things, but maybe it could be a factor.
I hope you can find the information you're looking for, and that it will help you feel better.

[amandalouise]

Originally Posted by AlwaysChanging2

My birth certificate looks nothing like todays. Its a State Department issue and green with no details.

my own birth certificate looks nothing like todays... they didnt have digital birth certificate capabilities back when I was born 30-40 years ago. even my own childrens birth certificates look different from each others with a years difference between them. only ours has less information as the years go by. mine has the most details and my youngest has the birth certificate with the least information on it.

[amandalouise]

Originally Posted by AlwaysChanging2

I was hoping for a nonabuse reason of cause...

can understand that.. unfortunately here in the USA....

in general dissociation can happen with just about anything and some dissociative disorders happen with out abuse like depersonalization/derealization disorder and others but here where I am .in general..... for DID the cause is documented as being extreme traumatic abuse before the age of 5.

my suggestion is if you have a treatment provider talk with them, even your medical doctor or the treatment provider that prescribes any of your medications can tell you what the cause of your having DID is related to.

[finding_my_way]

i was a micro preemie (born at 24 weeks) and was in the hospital for the first four months and also had heart surgery. they tried to get my parents to let me go and said that i would have severe problems if i did live. i was in and out the hospital for the first year of life because of other health issues including one life-threatening infection. they don't know how i survived all that i did with as little issues as i did.

my mom thinks that all of my issues are related to that, but i know that it was not the whole reason. i do believe, however, that it was probably the start of my trauma and ability to dissociate, but it was not what created the DID; all the other stuff in childhood added to it and helped it become what it did. there is no one cause, but that definitely was the beginning.

i wasn't able to be held for the first few months and had to endure daily medical procedures whether they were non invasive or not and all the nurses and doctors daily that were involved in my care too, so i didn't really have a lot of time to just rest and be left alone.

one sibling was born early as well but didn't have medical interventions to the degree i did and just had to eat and grow basically.

[krazy_phoenix]

I'm sorry you guys were premies, with all the problems associated with premature birth.

I was born 2 wks overdue, in a highly sterile environment and whisked away by mid-wives and doctors to be put in the nursery, to allow my mother to rest.

My mother assures me that we had adequate time to bond after her initial rest (I have no reason to think otherwise).

I too look for reasons other than non-remembered childhood trauma to explain my DID dx.