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Old Jul 21, 2018, 09:34 AM
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I weigh 172 pounds. I will do light exercise today, which may be a slow to moderate pace walk to McDonalds a mile away. I am not going to use my watch to calculate calories at this slower pace. I will use my walking speed and MET values. Perhaps a Big Mac is in order? I know a full meal with a chocolate shake is about 1500 calories. Add in cereal for breakfast, and we are talking here 1700 calories before dinner and any snacks. Then I will be able to actually exercise. Perhaps an endurance walk of at most ten miles to Dennys and back? I will walk just a moderate pace for this one.

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BTW I have cervical stenosis, which is the compression of my spinal chord by the vertibra of my neck. Sooner or later, this will require surgery. Perhaps this condition, which has been stressing me out a whole lot, has also helped kill my apetite yesterday? So there are many reasons for my recent appetite change.
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Old Jul 21, 2018, 11:05 AM
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@Tucson I have spinal stenosis, spondylitis and 2 bulging discs in the lumbar. I may have other stuff going on, but have only had a lumbar MRI as that's where I have the worst pain. I try to exercise the area (cat and camel) but to some degree I have just conditioned myself to the pain. Doc says for the most part, moving helps even if it is painful. If it is the spinal cord compression and I get the shooting pains, I move more gingerly but can usually reposition to take the pressure off. I took surgery off the table for now.
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Old Jul 21, 2018, 06:49 PM
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This is getting out of hand. Today's is full with part from yesterday and part from today plus I rolled some from yesterday into tomorrow and some from today. Tomorrow is almost full. I will skip breakfast and paddle in the morning to earn enough calories for a light lunch and dinner. I just need to have the discipline to actually stick to it.
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Old Jul 21, 2018, 07:11 PM
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My weight ended up going back to 157. That was last Sunday. I was 162 at 5:00 yesterday afternoon. I know people usually weigh more in the evenings. I’ve been hungry these past few days. A lot of fast food and coke. I look like I’ve put on 15 pounds. I’ve watched it today though. I’ve also been working alot. My job is very active. So I think it’s somewhat balancing out the calories. I would like to get back to 158. I’m going on vacation next week. Considering I’ll be spending about $400 in restaurant and fast food, I am going all out and I’m going to enjoy myself.

So I do want to get down a little bit these next 3 days.
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Old Jul 21, 2018, 09:32 PM
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I feel like I have gained 10 pounds, even though I know it's only 3 or 4 temporary; clothes fit fine, ribs are right there, stomach close to flat. What worries me is where my mind goes when I keep eating when I am past the limit and not really hungry. It's still within reach to make this a total non event by spreading the calories out across days to average right. I have to get my discipline back. Even if I have to "write some off" as an overage it should be less than a pound and then I could lose it again. It's all about the discipline. WTF happened? It has to stop.
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Old Jul 21, 2018, 11:56 PM
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@Tucson I have spinal stenosis, and 2 bulging discs in the lumbar. I may have other stuff going on, but have only had a lumbar MRI as that's where I have the worst pain. I try to exercise the area (cat and camel) but to some degree I have just conditioned myself to the pain. Doc says for the most part, moving helps even if it is painful. If it is the spinal cord compression and I get the shooting pains, I move more gingerly but can usually reposition to take the pressure off. I took surgery off the table for now.
You are doing terrific for a person in your spinal condition. It looks like movement including exercise helps.

No surgery? This is good news. I know the surgeon will recommend surgery. I am seeing this well recognized neurosurgeon that even successfully uses stem cell treatments on his patients. He had taken people that could not walk much at all due to bad surgery by bad surgeons and made them significantly better. He is that good.

I read the radiologists report on my MRI and neck x-ray. Even though what the neurologist told me is basically true, he did not tell me the whole story. My spinal chord is not being compressed yet, probably the outer sheath just being irritated. It appears that a bone spur is primarily causing the stenosis. I also have a degenerative disc condition, and also arthritis in at least one of the joints. I think any one of these things can explain pain. None of this was told to me by the doctor.

“If symptoms result and a diagnosis is made, treatment of bone spurs usually begins with doctor-recommended treatments like rest, anti-inflammatory drugs, hot and cold compression therapy, massage and physical therapy.”

“Treatment of cervical bone spurs is usually first attempted with a course of conservative approaches, although the surgical removal of the problematic bone spur is occasionally considered if symptoms do not improve, or become worse.” (My own highlited text)

I do not see anywhere where surgery is necessary, or even if it is, the replacement of the entire vertibra is warranted. This is potentially really good news. I feel better now. Still I will get a second opinion. I think I will have some dessert.
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Old Jul 22, 2018, 09:28 AM
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I weigh 171 pounds once again. Even my daughter is now calling me “skinny”. For the time being, I will discontinue exercising until I can get my weight under control. I want to gain a couple pounds back, and work on solving the problem of not eating enough calories when I exercise. I do not know, but maybe weighing at least 176 pounds should be my next goal?
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I managed to eat more calories this time. Between a visit to McDonalds, and a party for my daughter and her boyfriend, this was finally possible. A cup of carne barbacoa has allot of calories. Then there were the cups of soda and the slice of cake with icing. I did not exercise at all. I have consumed at least 2875 calories. It is too bad that I cannot eat my ex wifes cooking all the time.
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I paddled 9.57 miles with pretty much no stops; 3 hours. Strava gave me 1381, but based on this:
SUP Fitness ? How many calories does paddle boarding burn?
I edited it back to 1050. I am using about mid range for casual. Strava doesn't get enough info to be accurate. Mileage over time doesn't factor in board size and design, which has a huge impact on speed with the same effort. I have a slow board, so it might not be far off but I would rather err on the side of caution. If I can be reasonable about what I eat today and tomorrow, I can make all the overage go away. I weighed after getting back and I was 158.0.
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I weighed 159.2 today. Not too bad. I’m pretty sure I’ll be back to 157 on Tuesday.

I had a slim fast for breakfast. For lunch I had an entire box of Mac and cheese bites. The box had 800 calories. I plan on having a couple pieces of fish for dinner. They have 70 calorie each.

So it will be around 1,200 calories.
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I actually only ate a little over 1000 calories today. I had already rolled forward a full day (~1600) from the previous 2 days' excess and today I just ate back what I burned paddling 3 hours. I have 148 that I rolled forward yesterday into tomorrow after I filled today up. Crazy! But I got a handle on it today. I just need to repeat it tomorrow and then stay on track again.

3 hours paddling for 1050 calories. Seems like too much but pretty sure it is reasonable.

2647 total calories reported. Most weren't really from today but it is okay to work the math out across multiple days. Still have 148 calories rolled to tomorrow to take care of, but that should be easier if I truly have my discipline back. Scary episode of out of control thought processes.

Weighed this afternoon (158.0) and will skip it tomorrow morning. Next weigh in will be Wednesday.
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I weigh just barely 172. This is after I ate a stack of french toast. I probably will not exercise, except walk around my townhome complex some, at a more relaxed pace. I find it hard to keep myself slowed down. In no time, I end up in a brisk pace. Then I slow myself down once again. If I can eat a substantial amount of calories today, I may actually exerise a small amount. I do not want my ability to perform to diminish, so some exercise is very helpful in this regard. Note that I am using no target amount of calries here. For now I just want the calories to be much higher than normal so I can gain some weight back. This of course implies I will not exercise enough to burn up those calories.
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I have a hard time walking slow also. I have to exercise restraint to walk with others. I don't slow down if I get lost in thought, I take off.

On pace to be on goal with nothing rolled forward which would erase my overages of a few days ago. It still spooks me that I got into that mindset even temporarily. It was mostly "I am over and will have to make some adjustments, so I might as well have this also" that reminded me so much of deciding to diet soon and using that to justify a binge. Then I would put off the dieting. When I went over the second day in a row and pushed an even bigger number of calories forward, the thought process was all too familiar.
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I had a couple sweet teas from McDonald’s. I didn’t finish one. I accidentally left it at work. The McDonald’s website says they have 160 calories each. I had a Marie calendar beef and broccoli TV dinner for lunch, a stuffed hashbrown for a snack. Dinner will be a piece of fish.

Right now it’s around 1,040 calories.
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No exercise today. I wasn't totally inactive, but just more incidental walking than usual; nothing log worthy.

1659 calories, 59 over my goal of 1600. I am going to let that stand instead of rolling something forward. I am pretty sure that's actually under maintenance anyway. I had maintenance set to 1700 for a while and was slowly losing but I was messing around with exercise numbers.

I will try to have a smooth day tomorrow and see how the weigh in on Wednesday morning goes.

EDIT - and then I was downstairs for an unrelated reason and decided to have one little snack that I did roll forward. Also remembered there is a catered lunch for a meeting tomorrow. Light breakfast and no snacks until after lunch so I know what I am dealing with...
The good news is that I am logging/owning these little overages and I am not rolling big numbers forward the last couple of days.
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2647 total calories reported. Most weren't really from today but it is okay to work the math out across multiple days. Still have 148 calories rolled to tomorrow to take care of, but that should be easier if I truly have my discipline back. Scary episode of out of control thought processes.

Weighed this afternoon (158.0) and will skip it tomorrow morning. Next weigh in will be Wednesday.
I can have this problem also with discapline.
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No exercise. Nonexistent steps. I stayed indoors. I ate 2,716 calories. I made a high calorie dessert. A blueberry compote over high fat content icecream, with homemade whipped cream to top it off. I skipped dinner for this, but I really should not. I just did not want to eat any food I had in the house.
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I can have this problem also with discapline.
Sometimes I think I get a little too paranoid about it. I have a range because it is supposed to be okay to use judgement and decide to go over sometimes and then adjust to lose back. I get freaky in the upper half of my range because spikes from water retention go over the top of the range. I know it isn't true weight gain and the top of the range is a safe distance below my scream weight, but I still freak out when the thought process seems too familiar.
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It's happening again today for no good reason - brownie and cookies at lunch and gobbling mini candy bar snacks. If I eat light at dinner and take a long walk, I will be okay maybe. Probably will go over and maybe roll it so I can knock it out if I paddle tomorrow night.

EDIT - Down the rabbit hole again. I will go a few hundred over. I am trying to be less paranoid and assume I will rebound. I know I will get serious if I truly hit the top of my range.
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I did a bunch of kettle bell swings, but I am not sure it burned all that much. Those will bulk up my upper body.

So, yeah, I kind of went overboard again. 2583 calories, mostly junk and fruit. I am not sure I got it recorded right; it is probably even higher. I almost want to hit the top of my range to force action and discipline. I won't let this slip away. In some respects, I guess I am enjoying the ability and freedom to let it fly sometimes.

Because of a conflict, I probably won't paddle tomorrow night. Hopefully I will get in some steps. I will weigh in the morning. For a couple of reasons I don't expect it to spike too high; timing with certain bathroom events and none of the food was very salty; sodium came in under the limit. So I shouldn't retain much extra water. I am going to guess 159 and change.
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I weigh 172 pounds. No exercise. No steps worth logging. Target at least 2,200 calories. Consumed 2,209 calories. A light day all around. I will start exercising in earnest after I have gained a couple pounds. Tomorrow, I will just walk a mile around the townhome complex at a moderate pace. No big deal.
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Another weird, not sure what to think, weigh in. 157.6. Right in the middle of my range. Is it a low spike? One thing I have to keep in mind is that a week or so back I decided I wanted to go a little lower and lowered my goal by 100 to 1600. I got the first couple of overages to average out with a long paddle that I was a little conservative on as far as calories burned. So over the course of a week or so, I might have made downward progress of about 900 calories or so and evened out. Or it could be a low spike. I will just have to see how it goes the next couple of weigh ins.
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@UpDownAround: You are very significantly restricting your caloric intake, and at the same time, exercising quite allot. Kind of like burning the candle at both ends. So I believe the weight you are logging. Only 900 calories consumed for one day? I think your body can handle overages fron time to time without having to move the calories to the next day. I would only be concerned if your weight was a couple pounds outside of your current weight range. You have no problems losing weight. Exercise is helping you in this regard.

My weight is still 171 pounds. Yesterday my attempt at increasing my caloric intake was unsuccessful. I am going to try better today. I will walk around my complex some. I am hungry now despite it being around 6 AM. I have slept three hours.
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@Tucson - Yeah, some days were 900 disguised as normal days by rolling forward from a day or two earlier. But that meant that across a 4 day period I did consume ~6400 net calories or about 1600 a day, which is a little low. I have been pretty good about logging exercise but sometimes I am a bit conservative.
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and today is someone's birthday and there was cake and...

EDIT - and too many calories at dinner. Way way over again. Going to do a lot of walking and maybe swimming tomorrow
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