Need help understanding

Hi it's me again. Well my son has been home from school 4 days now. Actually today was a snow day, but he wouldn't have gone anyways. I'm trying to understand all the different disorders he may possibly have. I can't say that he hears voices, but he believes people are saying things about him, teasing him and or conspiring against him. Everything that goes wrong is someone else's fault, and the person he blames may not even be anywhere around. He doesn't comprehend things like anyone else. He wanted something the other day that cost $12. He asked my husband if he could have it and he tried to explain that we didn't have the spare money right now, so he kept calling me at work, begging. He thought that we were hiding money in our room and told us to put it on our credit card. He doesn't understand that we don't have credit cards, all we have are our bank cards and if there is no money in the account there is no money. Nor does he understand that there are other things more important we need than something for his games. I seriously think that he has a developmental disability along with psychological disorders, but he gets so frustrated when they try to test him that the testing never gets completed or is inaccurate. I look at his writing and it looks like a 5 year olds. When he writes sentences grammer, spelling, and words are all wrong and in the wrong context. I'm sure that school is tough due to all of this. Kids are seeing him as fat, immature, and dumb. Since he has been off school he has been happier and less stressed. He is starting a day program at a psych. hospital on Monday. So hopefully it will help. I just wondered if anyone has dealt with, or has any suggestions as far as a child with behavior problems, anger issues, irritability, incapable of thinking logically, immaturity, lack of interest, non-social, I could go on and on. No one else understands his thought process, but me, sometimes I have to watch how I say things because he will process bits and pieces and come up with a totally different understanding of what is said, and make it negative. What could this be? What could cause it or help him?

I don't know if this could be Asperger's or some other persistent developmental disorder or none of the above, but you might look up Temple Grandin on Wikipedia and/or get some of her books to see suggestions on how to deal with it. She is someone who knows from personal experience, which is the best kind.

Thank you! I have often asked doctors about, and even had one suggest Asperger's. He has so many tendencies of so many disorders it is complicated to diagnose him. They are hesitant to use certain meds due to his weight. His current doctor wants him off all meds, but that scares me due to his anger. When he was off all meds at age 8 he was uncontrollable, and would go from crying hysterically to laughing and fine in a heartbeat. He would sit and wail rocking on the floor for no reason, he still will do this every once in a while as he comes out of a rage.

You might also check this related place:

http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/

welcome to pc, laurie. i wouldn't attempt to even put a label on what your son may have but since he's startng a day program at a psych hosp. monday i would imagine there is a pdoc or T there that can help you with this. after observing your son it will be easier for them to come up with a diagnosis. sometimes it's difficult to determine a diagnosis in children primarily because children can mimic disorders just growing up emotionally. best wishes on your journey to get the help your son needs.

Thank you. Jacob did start day program Monday. Monday was good. Tuesday not so good, he was in prime form. Doctor wanted to admit, but wants to wait till aft. holiday. It's been a nerve racking weekend. Xbox failure, threw him into a tis. Now he's bored, not knowing what to do with himself, and will not understand that it can't be fixed by us, and everything we try to explain causes an argument. I even went on line to Xbox and showed him their explanation of the problem, saying it needs repair, and he wouldn't believe me. This is the kind of rationing or lack of that he has. Hopefully next week they can do something with meds even if they need to do in-patient, I'm getting desperate. None of us can even enjoy the holidays with the way he is, and since he has no desire to participate in anything else, we feel we can't even go to family functions out of fear of leaving him home alone. If we leave for more than a hour he will be constantly calling to find out when we are coming home, then he just is in constant need of something from us all the time, almost like caring for an infant. I truly appreciate the advise, and just to know that someone realizes the agony I go through.

i never saw your previous post, but your son sounds like mine, he was diagnoised with adhd at a young age, not hyperactive running around but lack of concentration not sitting still long going from one thing to another, mesy school work and now he is 17 his writing still looks like a spider scrawl, i am not saying that this is what is wrong with your son, but like others say you do have to consider all things, the frustration when things dont go his way, son was lego if he was building something and it fell apart he would shout at us all to shut up coz it was our fault, the ps2 was a constant battle as again he would get so frustrated with how each game was going
the money has only receantly started to ease as he is now has some money of his own

hope they find out whats up with your son and he gets the help he needs

Yes ADHD is also a diagnosis I got originally, because I could never get Jacob even at the age of 3 to keep his attention on anything, unless it was a movie, game or cartoon. He also wouldn't make personal contact with people, always thought they were talking about him or starring. Problem with Jacob is he is not a functioning 16 year old and as for maturity level he like a 8 -10 year old. He won't care for himself nor does it bother him to go with out a shower for days. His thought process is way off, you would have to see the un-logical way he thinks, and I looked at a few e-mails he sent to friends that he plays on-line and its like deciphering a 4 year olds sentences and spelling.

((laurie))) Maybe you said and i missed it. If you did I am sorry. Does your son have a iep at school? If your Dr wants the school to do a whole work up on your son. And you can ask for that ,.The school has 30 days to do so once the dr has asked for it. imo
WIth a learning disablity the differnce is how they can read and write on paper verus
being asked the questions and responding. Thats for a LD label. Which as you said there is a reading and writing isssue.
Here is a link for autism.
hope it helps. My son has LD and PDD .
http://autism.about.com/od/whatisautism/a/symptoms.htm

muffy

Yes Jacob does have an IEP. He is currently in the Hospital, there since Monday. After a tough time at Day Program and several incidents over the weekend. They admitted him. They have now given me a diagnosis of ADHD, Major Depressive Disorder, Narcissistic Personality Disorder and Mild Mental Retardation. The have added Geodon to his meds. Hopefully he will be home today or tomorrow. Finally I got someone who realizes that he is cognitively impaired. I'm sure this will change every thing at school also. Thank you to every one for the support.

I hope the experts at the hosptial can help him, I was thinking paranoid schizophrenia, I hope they can help him. You must be so exhausted worried, and sad. Take care of yourself, it is so hard on parents when something is wrong with their "baby"

I am glad you are getting some answers!!!!

My middle son has Aspergers and getting the diagnosis at least helped us understand what was going on with him, and gave us some direction on how we could help him.

It's so, so, so hard to watch our kids struggle...and I think watching them struggle with social relationships is the most painful part.

I'm glad you are getting the help you need. You are a good mom!

Thank you, sometimes I feel like I'm the only one in this battle. My husband is always here for me and with me, even though he is not Jacob's real Dad, he has been through it all with me for the last 8 1/2 years, but still I feel so alone sometimes. Every one just sees him as a uncontrollable child. Until you actually live with this type of person, and do the research, you cannot even begin to understand. Even then it's hard. I often wonder if there was something I did during pregnancy or why this happened to him. Once when he was around 3 we were on a camping trip. My oldest son (10 Years older that Jake) was on one of those cement playground toys that are on a spring buried in the ground and Jake was standing in front of him, while he was rocking back & forth he fell off of it back wards. The ride on toy came forward just as Jake was approaching it and it hit him in the face. I was sitting watching and couldn't move as I saw this happening. I saw Jake fly back wards from the impact of this thing. His left eye immediately swelled so bad that his eye couldn't open. I called our Dr. and he said to watch him through the night for convulsion. I took him to the emergency room the next day when we got home. I could not believe that there were no broken bones in the facial area at all. They said that due to his age, his bones were still quite flexible. I always bring this up to the Doctors, but none have ever thought it was relevant. I am definitely going to let the Neurologist know about it. I don't know if it had any thing to do with the personality disorders because I saw that early on, but I'm now wondering about the Mental Retardation (god I hate that word). I prefer to call it LD, we don't even say that in our Special Needs School District. But, thank you for the comments and advice. I have a tendency of beating myself up for this and sometimes I feel like I don't do enough, especially when it comes to interacting with Jake, but its hard to get someone to do things when they are not socially interactive.