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Old Jan 23, 2013, 04:08 PM
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Some classification systems distinguish between different types of individuals with HPD: patients with appeasing HPD and patients with disingenuous HPD. Individuals with appeasing HPD have personalities with histrionic, dependent, and obsessive-compulsive components. Individuals with disingenuous HPD possess personality traits that are classified as histrionic and antisocial. Studies have shown that relationships exist between somatic behaviors and women with HPD and between antisocial behaviors and men with HPD.
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DSM-IV-TR lists eight symptoms that form the diagnostic criteria for HPD:
  • Center of attention: Patients with HPD experience discomfort when they are not the center of attention.
  • Sexually seductive: Patients with HPD displays inappropriate sexually seductive or provocative behaviors towards others.
  • Shifting emotions: The expression of emotions of patients with HPD tends to be shallow and to shift rapidly.
  • Physical appearance: Individuals with HPD consistently employ physical appearance to gain attention for themselves.
  • Speech style: The speech style of patients with HPD lacks detail. Individuals with HPD tend to generalize, and when these individuals speak, they aim to please and impress.
  • Dramatic behaviors: Patients with HPD display self-dramatization and exaggerate their emotions.
  • Suggestibility: Other individuals or circumstances can easily influence patients with HPD.
  • Overestimation of intimacy: Patients with HPD overestimate the level of intimacy in a relationship.
  • Dual diagnoses

    HPD has been associated with alcoholism and with higher rates of somatization disorder , conversion disorder , and major depressive disorder . Personality disorders such as borderline, narcissistic, antisocial, and dependent can occur with HPD.




I feel like i went from being disingenuous. to a dependent, BUT YOU can have a duel diagnoses , I shift idk why form year to year depeneding on what state of mind im in at the time, Or what trouble im in at the time, I also have conversion disorder, Ptsd, Gad, and Bipolar, yup im a mess, A LOVELY MESS jk
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Old Feb 02, 2013, 11:29 PM
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This post you made here also makes so much sense. Besides acting NPD, my mother also acts BPD along with HPD. She is literally a clusterf*ck of mental problems and it's extremely trying on me since she has abused me emotionally and played mind games with me since childhood. Not only that, but she has also destroyed many good relationships between other family members and seriously hurt many loved ones, and yet others walk on eggshells to avoid her blowing up at them and she thinks she is so entitled. I hate her... it might sound childish but why could I not have a normal parent? It just makes me so bitter and full of despair.
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This is interesting. I've never met anyone diagnosed with HPD to my knowledge, I have some questions.

Do you have awareness that your emotions are shallow and that you over dramatize them at the time you're experiencing them?

Why are you uncomfortable when you're not the center of attention?

Are you ever aware that you're "being dramatic"? Like, do you act in a dramatic manner for the purpose of manipulating people(or some other reason)? Or is it a more unconscious thing, as in you're not sure why you act in the way that you do?

Also, what lead you to getting help? Do you see your behavior as a "problem" or not? Do you think some things about HPD are problematic, while some other aspects of it can be beneficial/profitable in certain ways?
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Old Feb 07, 2013, 03:40 AM
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Hey Atypical Disaster so good to see you here!!! Well ok lets see question one, there are time when i notices Im beign shallow and its only because Iv e seen other people really caring , so then I learn ok Im being shallow, but do I really KNOW IT not at all, It completely oblivious to me! Like take for exp, my daughter she huts, scraped her knee, NOW going to parenting classes tell me I should do " things " to make her better, so i do them, BUT It can get very irratating for em at times. Two why Am I uncomfortable when im not center of attention, well i do one of two things, go get it else where, or try to find out why, actually Im not really sure, probally my shallowness kicking in LOL! three Am I aware that im ebign dramatic, idk, not really, I will be told from others that I am, But i feel what i feel so what can you do? Do I purposly manipulate well, it depends on the situation, I can, but i try not to manipulate, i think its more of an unconscious thing. What led me to get help was my affair i had on my husband....he new something was wrong with me
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Old Feb 07, 2013, 10:38 AM
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Hi honeybee777, thanks for answering my questions! It sounds like HPD can be very challenging to live with, has the help you've been getting been effective at all?(yes I know, more questions lol. )

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Well ok lets see question one, there are time when i notices Im beign shallow and its only because Iv e seen other people really caring , so then I learn ok Im being shallow, but do I really KNOW IT not at all, It completely oblivious to me! Like take for exp, my daughter she huts, scraped her knee, NOW going to parenting classes tell me I should do " things " to make her better, so i do them, BUT It can get very irratating for em at times.
Interesting, is it like you're unconsciously "testing" people to see if they really care or not? Also, with your daughter do you ever feel empathy towards her even if it's "shallow"?

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Two why Am I uncomfortable when im not center of attention, well i do one of two things, go get it else where, or try to find out why, actually Im not really sure, probally my shallowness kicking in LOL!
It might do you some good to look at why you have that need to be the center of attention. Maybe if you figure it out you can work with yourself a bit better eh?

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three Am I aware that im ebign dramatic, idk, not really, I will be told from others that I am, But i feel what i feel so what can you do?
I'm wondering what other people consider "dramatic" or "shallow"... because like you said you feel what you feel.

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Do I purposly manipulate well, it depends on the situation, I can, but i try not to manipulate, i think its more of an unconscious thing. What led me to get help was my affair i had on my husband....he new something was wrong with me
Do you feel guilty/remorseful if you manipulate people? I'm glad you're getting help, I hope that your relationships start going more smoothly for you. Again, thanks for answering my questions.
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This post you made here also makes so much sense. Besides acting NPD, my mother also acts BPD along with HPD. She is literally a clusterf*ck of mental problems and it's extremely trying on me since she has abused me emotionally and played mind games with me since childhood. Not only that, but she has also destroyed many good relationships between other family members and seriously hurt many loved ones, and yet others walk on eggshells to avoid her blowing up at them and she thinks she is so entitled. I hate her... it might sound childish but why could I not have a normal parent? It just makes me so bitter and full of despair.

Don't despair, honey. I also had a mom with a cluster**** of personality disorders. I'm 38 now, rarely speak with her, have a career and family of my own, and life is beautiful despite her. Use her dysfunction to make yourself be the kind of human being you want to be. And find maternal figures where you can - a boss or teacher, etc. Most of all, give yourself the functional love you never got. I will never have the mom I needed and deserved and wanted. But I am now at the point where I simply feel sorry for her, and it is all OK without a mom.

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Old Mar 03, 2013, 07:58 PM
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This is interesting. I've never met anyone diagnosed with HPD to my knowledge, I have some questions.

Do you have awareness that your emotions are shallow and that you over dramatize them at the time you're experiencing them?

Why are you uncomfortable when you're not the center of attention?

Are you ever aware that you're "being dramatic"? Like, do you act in a dramatic manner for the purpose of manipulating people(or some other reason)? Or is it a more unconscious thing, as in you're not sure why you act in the way that you do?

Also, what lead you to getting help? Do you see your behavior as a "problem" or not? Do you think some things about HPD are problematic, while some other aspects of it can be beneficial/profitable in certain ways?

I have HPD and can answer your questions!

1) My emotions are never shallow. Ever. I feel things intensely. Very, very intensely. Including the way I feel about every person I have ever seduced, flirted with, been with ...

2) If I am not the center of attention, I feel invisible. There is no gray - it is either that I feel seen or I feel invisible. (This has gotten a lot better with therapy and EMDR!)

3) Drama and manipulation are so habitual that it is NOT a conscious choice all the time it happens, per se. But there are times when I am fully aware of manipulating (a man) because I know how to do it so well, and it does give me a sense of power, control, and being seen.

4) Knowing that my husband was in pain because of my actions lead me to get help: therapy + EMDR + low dose meds. It has helped SOOO much.

Hope this helps.
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is it possible to have HPD and not be over the top with it. I mean I feel like I try to be the center of attension a lot thats why I sought out doing modeling cause it makes me feel as such.
but I would not say I feel that way all the time it fluxuates everyday. But a lot of the time I just do show behavior where i want to be the center of attension. lol I have even joked that I am attension *****...and its kind of true...but its never gone in such sever directions its put me at risk or friendships of mine at risk. But I have a fair amount of social anxiety also...and only until a year or two ago...did not have what I would refer to as a sigificatn social circle. But I do notice that sometimes my disire to think primary of myself and not consider ones I care for gets in the way of my friendships.

I don't know how to pin point this its odd I do show sings of these kinds of things a lot of the time its not entirly text books as to how exactly this is always looked at, nor does it go on everday. But I am a person that like attension on me, wither in relationship, flirting, or in that I am an enterainer. Sometimes I do ok with this and sometimes I don't.
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Old May 27, 2013, 04:25 PM
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Hi honeybee777, thanks for answering my questions! It sounds like HPD can be very challenging to live with, has the help you've been getting been effective at all?(yes I know, more questions lol. )

Interesting, is it like you're unconsciously "testing" people to see if they really care or not? Also, with your daughter do you ever feel empathy towards her even if it's "shallow"?

It might do you some good to look at why you have that need to be the center of attention. Maybe if you figure it out you can work with yourself a bit better eh?

I'm wondering what other people consider "dramatic" or "shallow"... because like you said you feel what you feel.

Do you feel guilty/remorseful if you manipulate people? I'm glad you're getting help, I hope that your relationships start going more smoothly for you. Again, thanks for answering my questions.
To answer your question about shallow verses dramatic, FOR ME, it depends on who, what, the situations is, I can be very shallow towards things that most people are dramatic about, like a dangerous situation I am numb i dont feel, i dont care, idk I am like that, but I dont care about any consciousnesses, BUT when it comes to parties and men and or fun, my feeling become very dramatic and i become very self centered, as summer yoga said, EMDR has helped me alot, so have my children, as well as church and the bible, but before i got help, I would put myself in very dangerous situations and didnt care, F***K em I want to do what i want to do, thats it! Sounds horrible but its the truth, I always figured it was a teenage thing, but it lasted into my ealry adult life, until I got myself into some serious troubles and went and got help......I still am programmed to feel the way i feel, and dont when I dont, b ut Im trying to "practice", to act accordingly, but BY no means is it a natural reaction, sometimes I feel as though Im working against myself to do right things idk if this helps???
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Old May 27, 2013, 05:44 PM
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summeryoga and honeybee777, thank you both so much for answering my questions! Very helpful and informative.
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you very welcome Atypical Disaster very welcome
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