[Atypical_Disaster]

Seriously, therapists are so moronic I can't even articulate how much so.

Funny, I made a post similar to this one about a year ago, YAY for consistency I suppose!

I'm back in therapy again at the present moment. It's not my choice, I don't want to be there(I won't go into why I'm being forced for privacy reasons heh). It seems entirely superfluous to me. Why bother? I have zero interest in "changing" in the traditional way psychology sees the matter. She doesn't think I can be a "real" Narcissist because like I said in my older thread, it's that same BS argument, "oh but you're so self-aware so you can't be a Narcissist!"

It's not even that I give two ****s about her thinking I'm a Narcissist or not as I'm finally diagnosed with NPD for good now(even before that I didn't give a **** other than being frustrated that therapy has never gotten me anywhere). It's just so annoyingly consistent, these therapist people seem to be all exactly the same. Boring, inferior intellect, and preconceived notions about me that they never let go of.

It would be nice to have an objective set of eyes to help modify behaviors that are clearly not serving me, but therapists refuse to look at me for who and what I am(and therefore are of ZERO use to me, as they refuse to listen when I talk about what goes on in my mind that truly motivates my behaviors) so I end up frustrated... Which then incites me to play games with said therapists that leave them psychologically shattered by the time I'm through with them. That is exactly what happened last year when I wrote another post about the same general frustration and barring an absolute miracle, it will happen again this time around.

I don't want to "change". It is stupid for anyone to expect me to want to. I like myself the way I am, duh, it's the nature of my ******* disorder.

People wonder why Narcissists don't recover and well, it's not just because most of us don't want to change. It's because therapists more often than not refuse to really see us and work with our actual issues because it seems at least in my experience that they simply cannot believe that a real live narcissist would walk into their office.

But again, I don't go to therapy willingly. Never have. Never will. I find the entire thing to be completely worthless to me, no benefit whatsoever except temporary entertainment that I frankly don't need to pay good money for to find.

Pfft.

I don't know why I'm posting this, I suppose I wanted to vent. Heh.

Have a nice ****ing day.

-Resident Malignant Narcissist of PC aka Atypical_Disaster

[CANDC]

Sorry to hear you feel therapy is worthless. What if it is not therapy that is worthless but the incompatibility of your relationship with your current T? Maybe it is time for a change.

What other options are open to you? Have you gone the psych doc and meds route?

For me lifestyle changes fit big in my recovery hopes..

I have to watch what I eat because foods I eat can stabilize my moods or exaggerate them. A high protein low carb diet with snacks or meals every 3-4 hours will over time reduce my swings. I also avoid alcohol and recreational drugs because those can really increase depression.

Other lifestyle changes that help me are doing yoga, exercises, mindfulness, calm music, and being active on Psych Central.

What lifestyle things help keep you stable?

[Atypical_Disaster]

What if it is not therapy that is worthless but the incompatibility of your relationship with your current T?

I've had a slew of therapists. It's never worked out. It's just wasted my valuable time and money.

What other options are open to you? Have you gone the psych doc and meds route?

Personality disorders are not treated by medications as a general rule. But I will say that I am medicated properly for my schizophrenia and I have a competent psychiatrist. But that is not the problem here.

I have an exceedingly healthy lifestyle(I eat healthy, I do not drink or use illicit drugs, I exercise, etc), and again that does not relate to the issue of a personality disorder at all. I am not a depressed creature.

I am stable. That is the "problem" with personality disorders, by their nature they are "stable and enduring" to quote the DSM about it.

My stability is not the issue here. It's the fact that therapists keep trying to "fix" me when I do not require fixing nor do I desire "change". In fact, the thought they all have that something is "wrong" with me is downright irritating. If I could find a therapist that could actually just assist me with practical solutions about a couple of behaviors I exhibit that are impacting my life in a way I don't like that would be fine, but it just isn't going to happen and I am beyond sick of being forced into therapy as I have only met "therapists" who do not deserve the title of "professional". All the ones I've had have been laughably incompetent.

Thank you for trying to respond anyways, cheers.

[Mattmx]

I can relate to this a bit, but I was only honest with one therapist in my past. I've always thought of therapy as a bit of a game for me, especially since I have to continue to go to get my adhd meds. I just act normal, talk about things in my life that I already know the solution to, but I give her the satisfaction of thinking she can help me. I'll just build on things each session, watching and analyzing what she's doing to plan my next move. Like you, I have no desire to change, however, in the rare occasion that I do want an outside opinion on what to do, I bounce the idea off of her to see what her approach would be.

It's funny, my therapist is always telling me I should be a therapist myself. I think the most common response I get is "I feel like you don't even need me, you're so self aware," to which I reply "Well you're always giving me ideas, and helping me with what I can't figure out" while I think to myself "No ****, I just want my meds but apparently this is part of the 'process'."

[Atypical_Disaster]

Originally Posted by Mattmx

I can relate to this a bit, but I was only honest with one therapist in my past. I've always thought of therapy as a bit of a game for me, especially since I have to continue to go to get my adhd meds. I just act normal, talk about things in my life that I already know the solution to, but I give her the satisfaction of thinking she can help me. I'll just build on things each session, watching and analyzing what she's doing to plan my next move. Like you, I have no desire to change, however, in the rare occasion that I do want an outside opinion on what to do, I bounce the idea off of her to see what her approach would be.

It's funny, my therapist is always telling me I should be a therapist myself. I think the most common response I get is "I feel like you don't even need me, you're so self aware," to which I reply "Well you're always giving me ideas, and helping me with what I can't figure out" while I think to myself "No ****, I just want my meds but apparently this is part of the 'process'."

I see it as a game too, albeit in a slightly different way.

The bolded part is really all I want out of a therapist, but apparently it's too ****ing much to ask for, HAHAHAHA.

People always tell me I should be a therapist and I have to make a serious effort not to laugh. I hear similar things, about how self-aware I am and so on.

I have to deal with therapy for medication and **** too(that and my recurrent interpersonal problems getting me forced into it yet again), hence my utter annoyance with the whole thing.

I appreciate your relevant response, so thanks!

[Mattmx]

Originally Posted by Atypical_Disaster

I see it as a game too, albeit in a slightly different way.

The bolded part is really all I want out of a therapist, but apparently it's too ****ing much to ask for, HAHAHAHA.

People always tell me I should be a therapist and I have to make a serious effort not to laugh. I hear similar things, about how self-aware I am and so on.

I have to deal with therapy for medication and **** too(that and my recurrent interpersonal problems getting me forced into it yet again), hence my utter annoyance with the whole thing.

I appreciate your relevant response, so thanks!

Luckily the one i'm stuck seeing is actually good with that, but i think a lot of it is that she doesn't know how I really am

[Atypical_Disaster]

Originally Posted by Mattmx

Luckily the one i'm stuck seeing is actually good with that, but i think a lot of it is that she doesn't know how I really am

I'm in a bit of a catch22 there, if a therapist doesn't know how I actually am then of course they can't offer me any practical solutions even if they are that kind of therapist. Tell them how I actually am, then they insist I couldn't possibly be in spite of the heavy body of evidence to the contrary, not the least of which being my psychiatric/psychological records.

I find that attitude in therapists to be incredibly rude and downright disrespectful. If I am actually taking the time to be honest with a therapist then I am entitled to being respected for who and what I am and actually offered some decent advice for what things could use modification that are causing me interpersonal difficulties...

[Mattmx]

Originally Posted by Atypical_Disaster

I'm in a bit of a catch22 there, if a therapist doesn't know how I actually am then of course they can't offer me any practical solutions even if they are that kind of therapist. Tell them how I actually am, then they insist I couldn't possibly be in spite of the heavy body of evidence to the contrary, not the least of which being my psychiatric/psychological records.

I find that attitude in therapists to be incredibly rude and downright disrespectful. If I am actually taking the time to be honest with a therapist then I am entitled to being respected for who and what I am and actually offered some decent advice for what few things could use improvement that are causing me interpersonal difficulties...

Hmm, sounds like your therapists are focusing way too much on what you are or are not and not near enough on the actual problems at hand

[Atypical_Disaster]

Originally Posted by Mattmx

Hmm, sounds like your therapists are focusing way too much on what you are or are not and not near enough on the actual problems at hand

That's exactly it. Like you, the label is just a tool to me. But therapists get so hung up with me about the label that it prevents any kind of meaningful interaction at all. It is incredibly frustrating.

I did the therapy thing for over a year and both of them were a complete waste of time. Trying to understand me in ways of giving all these ridiculous analogies that I always disagreed with. Maybe for marital problems and what not they may be good but for me, not so much. My Pdoc told me that therapy is not something I should seek, that it would probably never work for me anyway. She also is so simple with meds, I tell her what I want and she gives it. When you are known to have NPD I think most do not know how to handle this (probably nervous).

[Atypical_Disaster]

Yeah, people don't "get" me and I don't expect that to ever change. Oh well.

Nice to see you pop in anyway Underground, but of course you know that. Lol.

[Fuzzybear]

I have found the same thing. complete misunderstanding from those who are paid to understand! Invalidation too, and it sucks

Btw I read somewhere about a dx I might fit... I'll have to look again, it could be appropriate to this forum, not dx ing self (know this isn't "allowed" )

LM fuzzy butt off I have to agree that the therapists I've seen are completely moronic

Yes and "boring" too and definitely "inferior intellect"
(kinda goes with moronic. Heh)

[Atypical_Disaster]

Originally Posted by Fuzzybear

I have found the same thing. complete misunderstanding from those who are paid to understand! Invalidation too, and it sucks

Btw I read somewhere about a dx I might fit... I'll have to look again, it could be appropriate to this forum, not dx ing self (know this isn't "allowed" )

LM fuzzy butt off I have to agree that the therapists I've seen are completely moronic

Yes and "boring" too and definitely "inferior intellect"
(kinda goes with moronic. Heh)

Must suck to feel invalidated. I've never known the feeling. I just don't give a **** what other people think, but I do get mildly annoyed if I am paying someone to work with my present day issues and they don't bother listening to what they actually are. Then I just walk away and laugh at myself for pretending that I really give a **** about someone else's opinions about my behaviors and just sort out the problem(s) for myself. But playing with therapists is just so fun I go back every so often... Usually when I'm in an extreme state of nonprofitable boredom!

[CBDMeditator]

Originally Posted by Atypical_Disaster

Seriously, therapists are so moronic I can't even articulate how much so.

Funny, I made a post similar to this one about a year ago, YAY for consistency I suppose!

I'm back in therapy again at the present moment. It's not my choice, I don't want to be there(I won't go into why I'm being forced for privacy reasons heh). It seems entirely superfluous to me. Why bother? I have zero interest in "changing" in the traditional way psychology sees the matter. She doesn't think I can be a "real" Narcissist because like I said in my older thread, it's that same BS argument, "oh but you're so self-aware so you can't be a Narcissist!"

It's not even that I give two ****s about her thinking I'm a Narcissist or not as I'm finally diagnosed with NPD for good now(even before that I didn't give a **** other than being frustrated that therapy has never gotten me anywhere). It's just so annoyingly consistent, these therapist people seem to be all exactly the same. Boring, inferior intellect, and preconceived notions about me that they never let go of.

It would be nice to have an objective set of eyes to help modify behaviors that are clearly not serving me, but therapists refuse to look at me for who and what I am(and therefore are of ZERO use to me, as they refuse to listen when I talk about what goes on in my mind that truly motivates my behaviors) so I end up frustrated... Which then incites me to play games with said therapists that leave them psychologically shattered by the time I'm through with them. That is exactly what happened last year when I wrote another post about the same general frustration and barring an absolute miracle, it will happen again this time around.

I don't want to "change". It is stupid for anyone to expect me to want to. I like myself the way I am, duh, it's the nature of my ******* disorder.

People wonder why Narcissists don't recover and well, it's not just because most of us don't want to change. It's because therapists more often than not refuse to really see us and work with our actual issues because it seems at least in my experience that they simply cannot believe that a real live narcissist would walk into their office.

But again, I don't go to therapy willingly. Never have. Never will. I find the entire thing to be completely worthless to me, no benefit whatsoever except temporary entertainment that I frankly don't need to pay good money for to find.

Pfft.

I don't know why I'm posting this, I suppose I wanted to vent. Heh.

Have a nice ****ing day.

-Resident Malignant Narcissist of PC aka Atypical_Disaster

I won't pretend to know the extent of your ego defenses/where you lie on the spectrum, and I won't assume I know what you've been through in your journey, but I must admit, I laughed a bit to myself when I read this post considering the forum section.

Not all narcissists are handicapped by an unwillingness to accept their fallibility, or some deep aversion to the potential of therapy. It's well argued that the people who use NPD defenses who deny their level of dysfunction are generally the most resistant to change. I generally agree with this. But this is true of anything. Cynicism and indifference both create formidable obstacles to change.

Confronting the comprehensive nature of a personality disorder/ego defense mechanisms can be a bitter pill to swallow. I was only recently diagnosed at the age of 40, but I've known something was wrong with my processing for at least the past 8 years. After a good deal of reading, and some prodding by my girlfriend, I came to the conclusion that the best way to confront this must be a complete and utter surrender to therapy and self-help, and owning my complicit use of these habitual and toxic routines. It makes intuitive sense that in order to shed the protective bark of a a false persona/ego, one would need something like radical vulnerability and self-acceptance of a fallible person, which is what we all are.

So far, self-policing of defensive behavior, and non-judgmental acceptance of myself, my flaws, and my memories, in conjunction with exercises to massage the nerve of empathy, I've been seeing notable improvements.

It's important to remember, you aren't a disorder. Pathologizing yourself (as my shrink calls it) is unethical to yourself, and moreover, it's inaccurate.You're a unique person who is using bad coping mechanisms and we simply need to uninstall those, and retrain ourselves, however long that takes.

My two cents.

[Atypical_Disaster]

Originally Posted by CBDMeditator

I won't pretend to know the extent of your ego defenses/where you lie on the spectrum, and I won't assume I know what you've been through in your journey, but I must admit, I laughed a bit to myself when I read this post considering the forum section.

Not all narcissists are handicapped by an unwillingness to accept their fallibility, or some deep aversion to the potential of therapy. It's well argued that the people who use NPD defenses who deny their level of dysfunction are generally the most resistant to change. I generally agree with this. But this is true of anything. Cynicism and indifference both create formidable obstacles to change.

Confronting the comprehensive nature of a personality disorder/ego defense mechanisms can be a bitter pill to swallow. I was only recently diagnosed at the age of 40, but I've known something was wrong with my processing for at least the past 8 years. After a good deal of reading, and some prodding by my girlfriend, I came to the conclusion that the best way to confront this must be a complete and utter surrender to therapy and self-help, and owning my complicit use of these habitual and toxic routines. It makes intuitive sense that in order to shed the protective bark of a a false persona/ego, one would need something like radical vulnerability and self-acceptance of a fallible person, which is what we all are.

So far, self-policing of defensive behavior, and non-judgmental acceptance of myself, my flaws, and my memories, in conjunction with exercises to massage the nerve of empathy, I've been seeing notable improvements.

It's important to remember, you aren't a disorder. Pathologizing yourself (as my shrink calls it) is unethical to yourself, and moreover, it's inaccurate.You're a unique person who is using bad coping mechanisms and we simply need to uninstall those, and retrain ourselves, however long that takes.

My two cents.

This is a quite excellent post, thank you for taking the time to write it.

And I admit, that reading what I wrote again here makes me laugh too. Hehehehehe.

[Atypical_Disaster]

Removed as this post got too personal for my liking.

[Perna]

Originally Posted by Atypical_Disaster

If I could find a therapist that could actually just assist me with practical solutions about a couple of behaviors I exhibit that are impacting my life in a way I don't like that would be fine

Are you forced to see the particular therapist you see? I would be specific and ask specific questions during the initial interview; "Can you help me with practical solutions to how I can stop eating the soap when I take a bath?" and find one that had the most "creative" or interesting-to-me answer (even if I thought up an idiot behavior that I did not have but which reminded me of one I did).

If I'm going to be forced to play the game I want to have as much fun as I can while doing it. When being run out of town, get in front and make it look like a parade?

[Atypical_Disaster]

Originally Posted by Perna

Are you forced to see the particular therapist you see? I would be specific and ask specific questions during the initial interview; "Can you help me with practical solutions to how I can stop eating the soap when I take a bath?" and find one that had the most "creative" or interesting-to-me answer (even if I thought up an idiot behavior that I did not have but which reminded me of one I did).

If I'm going to be forced to play the game I want to have as much fun as I can while doing it. When being run out of town, get in front and make it look like a parade?

Look at the date this post was written. This was back in May. I found a therapist since then (of my own volition for once) who is willing to work with me as I am. I interviewed my current therapist extensively before I let her work with me and me with her.

[CBDMeditator]

Originally Posted by Atypical_Disaster

This is a quite excellent post, thank you for taking the time to write it.

And I admit, that reading what I wrote again here makes me laugh too. Hehehehehe.

I did a terrible job at offering caveats to what I was saying. I should have prefaced my post conceding that the failure of a particular therapy isn't necessarily the fault of the client. I freely acknowledge that there are good and bad fits/poor chemistry, and not all modalities are appropriate.

My only contention is with speaking in absolutes (i.e. "all therapy is bad because I had bad therapy"), and overlooking the responsibility of the client side in the therapy. Not saying that's all applicable here, but these are considerations.

That all said, there are apparently several emerging therapies which have had significant success in NPD, so treatment modality and therapist ability are obviously important. Schema therapy is now being hailed as one of the most effective, but a few variations of psychotherapy have also helped lead the charge in this disorder most recently. Even things like specialized subclassifications of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, Mindfulness, and especially a form of Mindfulness called Loving-Kindness meditation are pushing around our old ideas about how stubborn this disorder is supposed to be.

So therapy can be effective, but that situation needs both someone who knows how to work with the disarming the NPD mechanisms and a completely receptive and open client.

Originally Posted by CBDMeditator

I did a terrible job at offering caveats to what I was saying. I should have prefaced my post conceding that the failure of a particular therapy isn't necessarily the fault of the client. I freely acknowledge that there are good and bad fits/poor chemistry, and not all modalities are appropriate.

My only contention is with speaking in absolutes (i.e. "all therapy is bad because I had bad therapy"), and overlooking the responsibility of the client side in the therapy. Not saying that's all applicable here, but these are considerations.

That all said, there are apparently several emerging therapies which have had significant success in NPD, so treatment modality and therapist ability are obviously important. Schema therapy is now being hailed as one of the most effective, but a few variations of psychotherapy have also helped lead the charge in this disorder most recently. Even things like specialized subclassifications of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, Mindfulness, and especially a form of Mindfulness called Loving-Kindness meditation are pushing around our old ideas about how stubborn this disorder is supposed to be.

So therapy can be effective, but that situation needs both someone who knows how to work with the disarming the NPD mechanisms and a completely receptive and open client.

I must admit that I am envious of your ability to recognize and your ableness of acceptance and change so quickly (I am assuming you being diagnosed with NPD). I have struggled with such simple tasks of trying to modify myself on a continued basis. Sure I can do it for a moment or two but then what happens next is such second nature to me. You must of also lucked out to find such a helpful therapist from the start. Unlike Atypical I do care too much of what people see me as. In places I am not comfortable i become angry and to the point were its simple for me to lose control. The list truly goes on and on. I would like to hear more from you as it seems whatever your doing could help others who do want to change. To be able to cope differently in the world rather that the ways we have decided to make our own. I appreciate your insight!! I also appreciate the similarities in the thought processing comment as I had that issue for many years more close to 20 before becoming aware of who I really am.

[Atypical_Disaster]

I did a terrible job at offering caveats to what I was saying. I should have prefaced my post conceding that the failure of a particular therapy isn't necessarily the fault of the client. I freely acknowledge that there are good and bad fits/poor chemistry, and not all modalities are appropriate.

My only contention is with speaking in absolutes (i.e. "all therapy is bad because I had bad therapy"), and overlooking the responsibility of the client side in the therapy. Not saying that's all applicable here, but these are considerations.

I actually agree with you. Unfortunately I've had a heck of a bad run with therapists before. The one I have now though, is quite excellent.

That all said, there are apparently several emerging therapies which have had significant success in NPD, so treatment modality and therapist ability are obviously important. Schema therapy is now being hailed as one of the most effective, but a few variations of psychotherapy have also helped lead the charge in this disorder most recently. Even things like specialized subclassifications of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, Mindfulness, and especially a form of Mindfulness called Loving-Kindness meditation are pushing around our old ideas about how stubborn this disorder is supposed to be.

So therapy can be effective, but that situation needs both someone who knows how to work with the disarming the NPD mechanisms and a completely receptive and open client.

Mindfulness has been ridiculously effective for me thus far. Schema therapy is something that my therapist has talked about doing with me. I have heard good things about the Schema model, and I've done a bit of reading about it and I do like it. It is quite different than other approaches, which is part of the appeal for me.

CBT is something I've had frankly rotten luck with, but I think it was more of a personality clash between myself and the therapists involved that tried it. Not because CBT is just bad therapy, it clearly works for a myriad of people otherwise it would not be so commonly used still.

Loving-Kindness meditation, I've never heard of that. Fascinating. I learn something new every day.

Personality disorders are seen as "stubborn" because they are referred to as "stable and enduring" in the DSM for a reason. Also, make no mistake about it, I have been referred to by others as one of if not the most stubborn person that they've ever known. Hahahahah. I think I have more of an open mind than many Narcissists, the others I've met(I've met a few) have all been basically incapable of laughing at themselves or finding any humor in their situation. Myself on the other hand, in the past couple of years especially I have learned to laugh at myself at times... because really, I have to say that some of my behavior is pretty comical looking back on it.

My therapist has a way of "getting through" to me that no therapist has been able to do before. She can disarm my "NPD mechanisms" as it were and we can have a solid and meaningful conversation without me going on the attack/getting defensive/etc. It's quite refreshing, and as I said unlike any therapeutic setting I've bee in thus far. I will keep going. It makes me of course very uncomfortable because like any Narcissist, being vulnerable to anyone is not my strong suit. But I do not want to end up like the two Narcissists that raised me: isolated, cut off by everyone in their lives because of their behavior. I can say the same about another older Narcissist I recently tangled with. If I stay on the path of being dysfunctional it will be a dead end. I do not wish to condemn myself to being "dead while still alive" as it were.

Your posts are fascinating and I like reading them, they give me some perspective which I need and have also come to enjoy if it is given to me in the correct way. You have a knack for doing that, not setting off my "narcissistic rage", people like that are hard to come by so I appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts.

[Atypical_Disaster]

Originally Posted by Underground

I must admit that I am envious of your ability to recognize and your ableness of acceptance and change so quickly (I am assuming you being diagnosed with NPD). I have struggled with such simple tasks of trying to modify myself on a continued basis. Sure I can do it for a moment or two but then what happens next is such second nature to me. You must of also lucked out to find such a helpful therapist from the start. Unlike Atypical I do care too much of what people see me as. In places I am not comfortable i become angry and to the point were its simple for me to lose control. The list truly goes on and on. I would like to hear more from you as it seems whatever your doing could help others who do want to change. To be able to cope differently in the world rather that the ways we have decided to make our own. I appreciate your insight!! I also appreciate the similarities in the thought processing comment as I had that issue for many years more close to 20 before becoming aware of who I really am.

I care what people think of me far more than I appear to online. If you saw how I behave offline, you would see a very different picture. I just don't care about what people on the internet think of me, hahahahah.

The bolded part is just like me. If I am not comfortable I can easily lash out with so much rage that people frankly don't know what the hell even set me off. I have shocked many people with my temper.

I am different from you and this new face on the forums in that I am quite a bit younger than the both of you(not that I'm calling either of you old, however. ) I wonder if my younger age has anything to do with my being a bit more willing to change than the average Narcissist who either never gets diagnosed at all or gets diagnosed later in life? Something I've been thinking about lately...

Originally Posted by Atypical_Disaster

I care what people think of me far more than I appear to online. If you saw how I behave offline, you would see a very different picture. I just don't care about what people on the internet think of me, hahahahah.

The bolded part is just like me. If I am not comfortable I can easily lash out with so much rage that people frankly don't know what the hell even set me off. I have shocked many people with my temper.

I am different from you and this new face on the forums in that I am quite a bit younger than the both of you(not that I'm calling either of you old, however. ) I wonder if my younger age has anything to do with my being a bit more willing to change than the average Narcissist who either never gets diagnosed at all or gets diagnosed later in life? Something I've been thinking about lately...

Had to go there with the age did we??? HA HA HA!!!!
My anger issues I guess go deep like you little girl

Notice the winning emoji on top!!! Was supposed to be right after little girl, guess I am too old to figure these things out LOL

[Atypical_Disaster]

Originally Posted by Underground

Had to go there with the age did we??? HA HA HA!!!!
My anger issues I guess go deep like you little girl

Little girl? You better watch your mouth old man! Hahahahahahahah!

My anger issues, gah I could write a novel about narcissistic rage that could stand alone.