[LiteraryLark]

This is completely true to my understanding. A friend of a friend got into an argument with his room mate, so the room mate drugged him with a strong enough dose of acid so that he was tripping for weeks. When his friends realized who did this, they drugged the room mate so strongly that it fried his brain to the point of a vegetative state. It absolutely sickens me all around that it makes me so upset of the whole situation. Makes me feel so awful all the way around.

[Rive1976]

Wow that is awful. Im sorry about that.

It is indeed.

[amandalouise]

Originally Posted by LiteraryLark

This is completely true to my understanding. A friend of a friend got into an argument with his room mate, so the room mate drugged him with a strong enough dose of acid so that he was tripping for weeks. When his friends realized who did this, they drugged the room mate so strongly that it fried his brain to the point of a vegetative state. It absolutely sickens me all around that it makes me so upset of the whole situation. Makes me feel so awful all the way around.

whoa my first thought is some people are looking at some major jail prison time. they all just committed more than one law doing that.

Acid (LSD) is illegal in all states. (possessing it may be legal but using it to harm another or with out another's permission such as slipping it into someones drink or food is a crime)
premeditated assault (according to this post it was planned out of anger)

my suggestion would be to keep your distance and not have anything more to do with this friend and friend of friend.... if they could do this to each other theres no telling who else they will do it to and most likely they may have done this before to someone.

Another suggestion.... in some states when one knows about someone who has committed such a crime and did not report it can also be held responsible. maybe an anon call to your local police department so that you wont end up in some hot water yourself for not reporting a crime or other crimes especially since one ended up hospitalized.

[MickeyCheeky]

I agree, it's terrible..

[amicus_curiae]

Originally Posted by LiteraryLark

This is completely true to my understanding. A friend of a friend got into an argument with his room mate, so the room mate drugged him with a strong enough dose of acid so that he was tripping for weeks. When his friends realized who did this, they drugged the room mate so strongly that it fried his brain to the point of a vegetative state. It absolutely sickens me all around that it makes me so upset of the whole situation. Makes me feel so awful all the way around.

Hmm. Yeah, I would approach the story with a bit of skepticism.

I’ve done massive doses of acid and other hallucinogens and can’t say that I tripped for more than 2-3 days. I was so angry, once, of being unable to trip on five hits from a full sheet of blotter that I ate the entire sheet. That resulted in a slight headache.

I’ve never — never, ever, ever — heard of anyone suffering a vegetative state from an overdose of any hallucinogens.

If I were you, before you accept the tale as true, I would seek more collaboration. Sounds like an urban legend to me; I’ve heard a lot of them involving LSD/going insane/acid given to those under pretense.

Certainly some people have ‘bad trips’ and suffer from psychological symptoms during one, but... in the 1960-1970’s the most ludicrous claim circulating was that using LSD would make on ‘jump out of windows.’ Maybe a handful did. But if everyone who tripped jumped through windows to their deaths we baby boomers would be scarce!

[amandalouise]

Originally Posted by amicus_curiae

Hmm. Yeah, I would approach the story with a bit of skepticism.

I’ve done massive doses of acid and other hallucinogens and can’t say that I tripped for more than 2-3 days. I was so angry, once, of being unable to trip on five hits from a full sheet of blotter that I ate the entire sheet. That resulted in a slight headache.

I’ve never — never, ever, ever — heard of anyone suffering a vegetative state from an overdose of any hallucinogens.

If I were you, before you accept the tale as true, I would seek more collaboration. Sounds like an urban legend to me; I’ve heard a lot of them involving LSD/going insane/acid given to those under pretense.

Certainly some people have ‘bad trips’ and suffer from psychological symptoms during one, but... in the 1960-1970’s the most ludicrous claim circulating was that using LSD would make on ‘jump out of windows.’ Maybe a handful did. But if everyone who tripped jumped through windows to their deaths we baby boomers would be scarce!

actually here in NY one of the common problems with acid (LSD) over dose is coma (vegetative state), hypothermia, and death, and if the person does come out of their vegetative state (coma) there is serious brain damage, some end up in long term nursing care.

I have a relative who took an over dose of LSD accidentally and is now in the state hospital most likely in a permanent vegetative state (coma), if he "wakes up" he will most likely have the functionality and mental abilities of a 2 year old.

[amicus_curiae]

Originally Posted by amandalouise

actually here in NY one of the common problems with acid (LSD) over dose is coma (vegetative state), hypothermia, and death, and if the person does come out of their vegetative state (coma) there is serious brain damage, some end up in long term nursing care.

I have a relative who took an over dose of LSD accidentally and is now in the state hospital most likely in a permanent vegetative state (coma), if he "wakes up" he will most likely have the functionality and mental abilities of a 2 year old.

Hmm. I did a LexisNexis search and found only a handful (8) instances since 1974 where death was attributed to LSD (specifically) overdose.

Didn’t find any reports of LSD being the direct cause of coma but rather rare instances of medically induced comas because of physical manifestations such as, yes, hyperthermia, amongst other physical causations damaging organs (the brain being the most likely as without oxygen the brain quickly degenerates).

Sad to say it, but it’s doubtful that your relative will awaken — oxygen loss can cause permanent and irreversible brain damage.

I’m still a bit skeptical in re the OP (the post not the poster!): I have no experience, nor could I find other’s experiences, of trips lasting for weeks, or instances of gonzo-doses resulting in insanity. Temporary psychosis, yes, anxiety, etc., but nothing permanent.

I’m a skeptic and a bit of a cynic at heart. When I first read an FOAF (Friend of a friend) story my radar is engaged!

Originally Posted by amicus_curiae

When I first read an FOAF (Friend of a friend) story my radar is engaged!

Mine too.

[amandalouise]

Originally Posted by amicus_curiae

Hmm. I did a LexisNexis search and found only a handful (8) instances since 1974 where death was attributed to LSD (specifically) overdose.

Didn’t find any reports of LSD being the direct cause of coma but rather rare instances of medically induced comas because of physical manifestations such as, yes, hyperthermia, amongst other physical causations damaging organs (the brain being the most likely as without oxygen the brain quickly degenerates).

Sad to say it, but it’s doubtful that your relative will awaken — oxygen loss can cause permanent and irreversible brain damage.

I’m still a bit skeptical in re the OP (the post not the poster!): I have no experience, nor could I find other’s experiences, of trips lasting for weeks, or instances of gonzo-doses resulting in insanity. Temporary psychosis, yes, anxiety, etc., but nothing permanent.

I’m a skeptic and a bit of a cynic at heart. When I first read an FOAF (Friend of a friend) story my radar is engaged!

ummm not all cases of drug over dosage ends up in journals and court systems so of course lexisnexis wont have the accurate information you are looking for. you might want to call your local police department and your state and county department of health. they will have the information you are looking for. also any medical doctor can also give you this information on whether or not they treated any LSD over dosages and what the outcomes were (they wont be able to tell you actual names and such but they can tell you whether they have treated LSD over dosages and what the symptoms, lasting affects and whether they went into a coma or not or died.

you can also read the obits in your local news paper. many times they tell whether the person died of an accidental or purposeful suicide by drug over dosage.

you can also go to your local chapter or NA (Narcotics Anon. ) they will also give you factual information on LSD, its side effects and what an over dose can do, they may even be able to contact family or an actual person who did this, to talk with you about the realities of LSD and what an over dose does.

many high schools and colleges now also visit places like the county morgue where they have a tour and talk about actual cases as a way to prevent drugs and drug usage for their students.

some places are also doing the drug equivalent of driving while drunk simulations with the topic of most commonly used drugs. maybe you can find out if your area does this and get accurate information that way too.

[*Laurie*]

I have absolutely no idea if the story is true, or not. And sometimes stories like that can get turned around a bit...maybe part is true, part is not.

I will say that I was dating a boy in high school (this would have been in 1979-80). He had a best friend who was a serious jerk...very mean and sadistic. I kept my distance from the guy; I couldn't stand him. One night, we were at a crazy, unsupervised party that was in someone's home (no parents around, of course)...people crashed the party and it all got out of hand way too fast. That house was packed with teens, and there was plenty of drinking and drugs going on.

So there was one boy who somehow ended up at the party; the boy was kind, sweet, and not popular or "cool". He seemed like the type of guy who would have been at home with his parents watching TV on a Saturday night. But someone had brought him to the party. Well, my boyfriend's best friend dosed the boy's punch with PCP (which was popular at the time). The poor kid freaked out badly. He did wind up in a psych hospital for several weeks and, honestly, he never seemed quite the same again. He just seemed checked out. Of course, part of that might have been because he had PTSD from the a-hole dosing his punch.

I've never forgotten the incident. It not only frightened me, but I was absolutely appalled that my bf's best friend had done such an egregious thing to someone. My long-ago boyfriend and his (still!) best friend are on my Facebook friends list, as are a large group of people I went to high school with. Oh, there are so many, many times when I want to ask about how that sadistic guy could have done such a thing to someone. The sad part for me is that, for the life of me, I cannot recall the name of the kid who was dosed. I sure do think about him, though, and I sure do hope that his life is going well.

[*Laurie*]

...An interesting occurrence...I wrote the post above shortly before I went to bed last night. I had a dream in which I was able to recall the name of the boy who was dosed with PCP. For some reason, that gave me some peace.