[wisewoman]

I have been fairly numb and oblivious to most everything but my own family and close friends with our own crisis here. I am unaware of what has been happening on the board. I want to say though that I have a problem with the keyboard on my Dell laptop and now have connected an external keyboard which works. A few times in chat I wrote jibberish because letters were missing. Then I had to get right off without being able to explain to anyone what was happening baecause half of my danged letters were not working. I hope that didn't offend. And there was a certain P.m. that was also gibberish. embarrassed me. I am very numb and have crawled deep inside and am struggling to stay present. I spent time with one of my friends, the father of the sick kiddo last night. At least it was a reality check. I just kept saying it sucks and it ain't fair. I love those guys so much and that child has suffered. It is also true that she has lived each day fully, tasting, trying everything that came her way. I hope she has the chance to keep doing so. All of this to say that I am sorry if there are things going on here to which I am oblivious. I need for this to be a safe, supportive place. I have been reading but not posting much. Fell asleep yesterday around 6:30 as I was trying to read posts and stayed in bed all night. Please take care of eachother. We can make a big difference to eachother just by caring.

[Fuzzybear]

Hi Wisewoman, I also haven't been feeling comfortable here of late, but probably for slightly different reasons than Greg. There are certain dynamics that have developed here lately that have been hurting me. I may not be posting for a while either. I am writing this here as I don't want to make an announcement of it, especially after Greg's post... I understand Greg's reasons I think, he does confide in me ...we have been "best friends" for a year...

There have also been several "goodbye" posts from a member/members where the person/people concerned continued to post. I find it upsetting when people threaten to leave several times in a short space of time but continue to post ... my stuff. I can't help but feel that on some occasions they post to say they are leaving either out of anger or to provoke a reaction. I can understand this happening once or twice perhaps as a mistake, or they regret their decision made in anger and hurt .... I will shut up now.

I don't want to look like a copy cat, and also it is possible that I might still post occasionally, but not as much as before. I am struggling but I can't talk about what is hurting me here at the moment, because it is about issues on the board. I am sorry that this is so vague, I just want to say that you have never hurt me in any way, and I will be keeping you in my thoughts and in my heart.

Love,
Fuzzy

[SweetCrusader]

i have no idea what's going on here! i didn't realize there were any problems. am i just clueless? or do i not read the right posts?

if someone would fill me in, i would really appreciate it. feel free to pm me. especially if it has anything to do with me.

thanks!
Angela

-comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable-

[Fuzzybear]

Definitely nothing to do with you Angela. I probably shouldn't have posted that, but I just felt that I needed to express a couple of things.

((((((((((((((((Wisewoman))))))))))))))))

((((((((((((((((((Angela)))))))))))))))))))))

Love,
Fuzzy

((((((Fuzzywuzzy)))))) Emmy will be right there with oats and comforters. We'll watch Wallace & Gromit: The Wrong Trousers episode, over and over. K?

emmy

Don't you worry for a second about this not being a safe place! I haven't a clue what's going on, so as far as I can see, it's safe as peach pie! :-)

You keep posting, keep us updated on both families, and especially on how you are doing. You know we all care deeply!!

Emmy

[angel04]

I have no idea what's up either. I don't see anything too uncomfortable or disturbing so I guess I'm one of the clueless fog people.lol
This place is pretty tame compared to other forums I've been too. No one I've seen has ever been offensive or particularly nasty in any way. I've seen that a lot in other places though.
I think you all need to think about how really great this place is even when you feel it's not because there are very ugly places elsewhere.
I hope everyone feels better soon and it all smoothes out. Everyone goes through delicate times when their feelings are raw and I think we just have a few people going through that at the same time right now.
I'm sure it will work itself out.
hugs to all
tina

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Perhaps I am so totally self-involved to not see what everyone else is seeing; so I will remain clueless. I'm sorry that some are finding this place not to be a safe haven. I have also had problems in the past, but I have come to see the forums as a disfunctional family. And with any family with SO much mental illness, we just have to take one another with a grain of salt, add a whole lot of forgiveness and patience, and keep one another in our thoughts and prayers.
As for those who threaten to leave, and especially those who warn that they are going to kill themself, I'm running out of patience. This may sound cold and insensitive, but if you're not coming back, don't drag everyone else down who may feel these forums beneficial. If you plan to "check out" then this isn't the place to tell people. Talk to a priest or something.
I once posted of some unhappiness with this site, and perhaps that in itself was wrong as my post wasn't very supportive, but I never intended or threatened to leave.
Anyway, if you can't be here any longer for ANY reason, PM the people closest to you; but keep it private--As for wise woman's post, I'm not sure your post fits in the category I'm referring to, just thought yours was a good springboard to jump off on.
Blessings to all, and I consider so many here such an encouragement to me, so thanks, and I hope you'll stick around.
Love,
Jon

[SeptemberMorn]

Angel, (and others) stay "clueless" and stay safe. This place isn't what it used to be. I know it's a lot better than some places but it's quickly changing and some of us don't like the change. Some of us don't feel this is a "safe" place anymore.




<font color=blue>"Our doubts are traitors and make us lose the good we oft might win by fearing to attempt" --Shakespeare</font color=blue>

[angel04]

could you pm me and tell me why you feel it's unsafe now?? I hate being cluless. I'd really like to know what has changed.
thanks
tina

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www.nascar.com
www.tonystewart.com

[itsjustme111]

HHHmmm, I see what you are all saying. ((Jon)) maybe thats just how people felt at the time. My post about leaving was because of the emotions I was feeling at the time. I am sorry to cause such an uproar. I was wrong; I can admit that. I should have not have posted that. Sorry everyone. I also saw a reply to a post of mine; that I posted 10 out of the last 20 topics. Thanks for bringing this all to my attention.

justme

{the following may seem like rambling, as I don't want to get too specific; sorry}

I was in chat last night when a member said they were going to leave because they felt that someone was picking on them and was being hurtful; the meber then went on to say that because of this person they were feeling like "ending it".
In truth, there was such good humor in the chat between numerous people, and this was just an example...someone took it all wrong and got offended (which is allowed), but where I had a problem with, was trying to blame the other person for their feelings about wanting to "end it all".
If people feel they need to leave, that's their perogative; if people choose to end their life, that's also their perogative; I struggle with those thoughts on a daily basis, but don't post it and try to blame your emotions on someone else.
As far as posting 10 out of 20 topics, whomever brought this to your attention can just get over it. There is plenty of room for all of us here. You have much to offer, I'm grateful that you have decided to stay.

[SweetCrusader]

there is no limit on how many posts you can do, last i checked
and you are going through a LOT of stuff right now. you need the support. so feel free to ask for it! that is what we are here for! ask for it as many times as you need or want to!

stay with us, just! you rock! you are my pal! and i want you to stay!!!! i care about you.

take care

(((((((((just)))))))))

Angela

-comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable-

[itsjustme111]

HHHHMMMMM; between laughing and crying here. I am just paranoid everyone; too emotional.

just

[SweetCrusader]

that's ok. you're going through a rough spot that is making it harder to cope. you will get through this eventually, although i know it doesn't seem like it right now. meanwhile, we are here to be supportive and patient with you, and caring! and if anyone is not, you give them a piece of your mind because you have a right to feel safe here! (((((((hugs))))))

ps: laugh, cry, and be paranoid all you want!

Angela

-comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable-

[angel04]

If you can't ramble on here about your troubles, what is this place here for?
Keep posting justy. We're listening.

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www.nascar.com
www.tonystewart.com

[itsjustme111]

Hey, sry; but I got to say; I love it when u call me justy.

justyme

ditto to what she said. so glad we spoke justme; you're such a blessing to have around, best wishes.

[itsjustme111]

Hey now; dont make my head swell; I will float away. I have no string to catch me. lol. Hey Jon; give yourself some credit; you are an absolute; without a second thought; a great pleasure and joy to have around. I am thank ful for the gifts of friendships here.

justy

AWWW: I'm think I'm gonna have to give you a hug. (((((((((((((justme13422973964562523407)))))))))))))
Thanks darlin'

[SeptemberMorn]

I believe that if someone is feeling that down, that despondent that they want to "end it all," (which is up to personal interpretation) they have just as much right to say so as anyone else does as long as they don't post it in Depression according to the rules! If all this other "dysfunction" is allowed then so should that! If you don't tell your "family" how badly you're feeling, who DO you tell, for Pete's sake??




<font color=blue>"Our doubts are traitors and make us lose the good we oft might win by fearing to attempt" --Shakespeare</font color=blue>

I'm not quite sure who "PETE" is, but I just have issues with those who aren't following the "rules" you mentioned. Since we are disfunctional, and EVERYONE (within the rules) is allowed to think, feel, express how they're feeling, I also can express that I get so "fed up" sometimes with certain types of posts; and in the interest of fairness, people are also able to post that they are fed up with my posts also.
I think the honesty is what makes us stronger, but to be "honest" I can only hang around those who Dr. Phil describes are at least "WANTING TO WANT TO" get better.
Yes, I'm so unfair and insensitive; I just blame it on the disease.
lol
Jon

[SeptemberMorn]

"but to be "honest" I can only hang around those who Dr. Phil describes are at least "WANTING TO WANT TO" get better."

Then, in MY opinion, and MY opinion only, maybe you should find a different message board where EVERYBODY wants to get better, EVERYBODY is at the same stage in their journey! Doesn't Doc Phil have a board you can go to?? Good luck finding the "Perfect" place!





<font color=blue>"Our doubts are traitors and make us lose the good we oft might win by fearing to attempt" --Shakespeare</font color=blue>

[SeptemberMorn]

{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{WiseWoman}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} Got any more questions, Hun? This is only a drop in the bucket.





<font color=blue>"Our doubts are traitors and make us lose the good we oft might win by fearing to attempt" --Shakespeare</font color=blue>

I'm not looking for another place, and I think this one is perfect enough for me. It's so amazing to me however that from what I gather, you feel EVERYONE should be able to say whatever they want, no matter how it affects other people; yet when I have something to say, I should "find a place more "perfect" and "doesn't dr. phil have a board" that I can go to.
I think we're a family; and my opinion should count as much as yours. I feel very misunderstood, but that's okay, It doesn't make me want to run away or kill myself.
I think I quite sympathetic to those who are truly on a "JOURNEY"; but the insensitive part of me has little patience with those who have stopped dead in their journey and just suck the life out of me. I am the FIRST to admit that I am insensitive in this matter; for MY journey I can choose whom I associate with; so PLEASE don't suggest that I go somewhere else. There are so many wonderful people here truly on a journey; you are one of those--I don't claim to be perfect or right; or pretend to have all the answers, but I have just as much right to my opinions (no matter how wrong they may be) as anyone else including you.
I don't plan to go anywhere, and I would never suggest that you should find another place either. As in life, if you don't like where you're at, it's not always useful to leave, but changing the things around you are often helpful. When I'm having a problem with our "disfunctional family" I don't want to leave it, I just want to make it a little better.
Anyway, I've rambled too much; but again, that's my right as much as the next insensitive person's.
Blessings,
Jon