[LMo]

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The phrase, "you people" is probably the fastest way to get people upset, IG.

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Unless, however, you say: "you people are really kind to pay so much attention to me, even though I keep putting myself down. I appreciate your support and interest in helping me. Thank you, you people"

[SweetCrusader]

Ladies,

I seriously don't believe this man is EVER going to hear a word any of us have to say about this. My personal opinion on it is that we should let it die.

It's sad, but with as resigned as he is to believing this, he'll make it COME true. Self-fulfilling prophecy.

Angela

[nothemama8]

Oh God this might trigger but Gary I think your worth the pain, give me a minute to gather my thaughts then I will post
Angie

[nothemama8]

Gary , I have always been obese I don't mean fat, Iam over 450lbs, 5'51/2" tall , my nose has been broken twice from beatings, IAM NOT ATTACTIVE, but IAM LOVED by alot of ppl here and by my hubby, because I DO NOT COMPLAIN, I learned to laugh at myself before others could laugh at me. This is all I can say for now
Angie

[SeptemberMorn]

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You people will just never get it.

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Now we're STUPID, not just LIARS.

[SeptemberMorn]

AAAHHHHH! You're right, Angela. In fact, his prophecy about himself has already come true. Look how he's turning against all those that have tried to help him. THAT is why he is Isolated, even here!

FORGET IT!

[LMo]

right on, Angie! (and the word is "fluffy", not "fat")

[SweetCrusader]

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Gary , I have always been obese I don't mean fat, Iam over 450lbs, 5'51/2" tall , my nose has been broken twice from beatings, IAM NOT ATTACTIVE, but IAM LOVED by alot of ppl here and by my hubby, because I DO NOT COMPLAIN, I learned to laugh at myself before others could laugh at me. This is all I can say for now
Angie

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One comment on that, sweetie. We dont' love you because you do not complain. We love you because you are so darn wonderful. If you did complain, we'd still love you to pieces.


Angela

[SeptemberMorn]

{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{Angie}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} Another word; BEAUTIMUS!!

[Isolated_Guy]

Septembermorn, you have a way of putting words in my mouth that I never said.

I didn't call anyone STUPID and you know this. If you really read just what I said, you'd know that to be obvious. Your extreme dislike for me gets in the way.

This is now the second time you accused me of calling people LIARS. What people have said to me is not the same as a an actual lie, which often has a victim. Telling someone something in hopes that they will feel better is a positive thing. WHAT ELSE WOULD PEOPLE SAY ANYWAY? I mean really.

Septembermorn, you want me out of here very much and I can see that plain as day. I believe the real reason you want that is because what I've said is seen as a threat to some long held belief system and it causes a conflict. Maybe the same applies to others, however they don't make it such a personal thing.

Gary, I have to agree with all that the lovely ladies have said to you and I will repeat myself: some people just love their misery and they hold it close to their chest and nurture it and feed it and sleep with it...then they get up the next morning and start the same old mantra again.......you will never attract a woman with the attitude you've got. never, never, never.....for you to trivialize people's true value and keep harping on looks tells me that you're very happy where you are. You refuse to see any way but yours. Your way hasn't worked in 40+ years, what makes you think it's going to work now?

[Raynaadi]

Hmmm, wow. This has taken a bad turn and I think if this topic is continued, many people will be triggered, hurt, or just plain give too much of themselves to a lost cause. I really honestly believe it should be closed. Several people have been hurt during now 2 threads, and it's not even going anywhere. Please everyone, I think it's done.

Rayna

[LMo]

I think the point that most people are making, Guy, is that you came here to this mental health self-help forum and introduced your appearance as your main problem. Most people tend to think: "problem... solution". If you don't want to talk about it, then you didn't even need to mention it when you introduced yourself. You could have just said "hi, I'm Gary. I just want to see what's going on around here". By bringing it up and then refusing to consider other perspectives, it just looks like complaining or like you enjoy arguing. I don't think that's the case with you, but please try to understand how it can be perceived that way.

[LMo]

I agree. Let's close this thread. It's gone from bad to worse, unfortunately. We were all just trying to help

[Isolated_Guy]

Not every problem has a solution. I can accept this one.

The reason I introduced it here is to let out the frustration. I know eveyone is attempting to help and I sense the care. The problem is, no one here has ever been in my shoes and that's why you can't understand what it's like to be me. I'm sorry for all the trouble I've caused but you have to understnd that this problem which can't be changed, which keeps me from ever experiencing the basic joys in life, is killing me inside. You just don't know what it's like to have to see those around you finding and sharing something you yourself can never have because of lack of a very basic human trait which is required for attraction. It's just so unfair!

[LMo]

ok.

[LMo]

I just have one more thing to say before this thread gets locked:





TIMMY!!!

[SeptemberMorn]

IG, really! I don't know how you think! Can't you understand that when you tell someone, "I appreciate it but I don't buy it," you are telling them they are lying to you??

When you post "You people just don't get it" it's as good as telling us all we're stupid!?

And I'd sure appreciate it if you would stop accusing me of harboring some secret darkness that I don't know or understand. Remember that when you point one finger you have three pointing back at you!! I know myself OH, so much better than you know yourself. I've told you and told you that I come from an abusive, neglectful background and I KNOW. I'll be you don't remember reading that, do you? Selective listening and selective reading make for a closed mind.

To tell you the truth, IG, I don't give a damn whether you go or stay. All I know and all I care about is that I'm done with the whole mess. You refuse to accept ANYTHING anyone tells you! I've also noticed that if they're nice about it and say "some people" you choose to ignore it because they didn't do like me as say YOU.

I've had it! I'm done! Live your life in the misery you seem to love so much! SHEEEEEESH!

[Fuzzybear]

I agree... we are done here.

[neri]

heh... just kun aioin avata sanaisen arkkuni