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Old Jul 28, 2013, 04:46 AM
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Thank you. I know she was just a guinea pig, but she really was special to me. I got her when I was 13 so she lived a very full and happy life, but she would sit on my shoulder and give me kisses when I was sad.
That is really sweet. Sounds like a nice memory to hold on to. Pets are always special, they're never "just" guinea pigs or cats or whatever. I used to have a cat when I was a kid and I will always remember the way she slept on my lap when I was studying. Maybe you could get another pet when you overcome her loss?

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Thanks for the hug. Yeah, she mocks me about most everything in my life. She mocks suicidal people in general and once literally told me that if I was planning on committing suicide, I should go talk to her instead of telling a doctor (weird to say that because she actually is a doctor, just not a mental health doctor) because they will ruin my life and judge me. She won't ever see a therapist because she doesn't believe in psychology and believes she is all knowing anyway. She's a complete lost cause.

My dad literally ignores me despite having lived in the same house for 18 years. He never calls me when I'm at school, never emails me, never texts me, nothing. He has a relationship with my younger siblings but for whatever reason he doesn't care about me as much. And while he did not contribute to the PA I endured quite as much as my mom did, he did do a little and he stood by her side, letting her do it. He never protected me when my mom was shouting vile things at me and severely psychologically abusing me. He never stood up for me, never demanded that she treat me right, all he ever did was care about his marriage more than he cared about his own daughter. I have no interest in building a relationship with a man like that. The only thing he ever taught me is that if I decide to have kids someday (*shudders*), I want a man that will love our children far more than he could ever love me. I want a guy who would sooner abandon me or put me in the hospital if necessary than let me psychologically sabotage our kids forever.
I'm so sorry for what you went through... Ah, we all pay for our parents' sins(or our parents' insanity...).
Don't let your past ruin your future. You deserve better. I'm sure life will reward you with a man like you wish and that you'll be finally happy with him and your kids.
Don't give up.
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Old Jul 28, 2013, 06:23 AM
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Hi growlithing. I've been following this thread, and I just wanted to say hang in there. I'm so sorry for everything you're going through right now.

I did have one question, which struck me while reading this: Why are you not able to contact your T during those five weeks? I understand you're in school, and it sounds like your T works for/is affiliated with your school, but if she knew how much you were really struggling and had made a SUI attempt, I think she would rather you contact her than lose you. Is she on vacation or does she not work during those 5 weeks?

If she is still working, I am just wondering why you can't contact her, if you are in such serious pain, I really think she would prefer to know rather than risk losing you.

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Old Jul 28, 2013, 07:26 AM
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Hi growlithing. I've been following this thread, and I just wanted to say hang in there. I'm so sorry for everything you're going through right now.

I did have one question, which struck me while reading this: Why are you not able to contact your T during those five weeks? I understand you're in school, and it sounds like your T works for/is affiliated with your school, but if she knew how much you were really struggling and had made a SUI attempt, I think she would rather you contact her than lose you. Is she on vacation or does she not work during those 5 weeks?

If she is still working, I am just wondering why you can't contact her, if you are in such serious pain, I really think she would prefer to know rather than risk losing you.

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Thank you.

The school controls all contact and she does not work over the summer. She also has no idea about what's been going on. When I tell her about this in Sep, it will probably totally shock her.

Yes, she would want me to contact her. I know she was worried about me even before these developments. However, I literally have no contact information for her through and the only way I could possibly contact her is if I made a scene with this and went way over her head and contacted a dean and I just don't know how much any of them could do without me physically being there.
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Old Jul 28, 2013, 07:30 AM
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That is really sweet. Sounds like a nice memory to hold on to. Pets are always special, they're never "just" guinea pigs or cats or whatever. I used to have a cat when I was a kid and I will always remember the way she slept on my lap when I was studying. Maybe you could get another pet when you overcome her loss?

I'm so sorry for what you went through... Ah, we all pay for our parents' sins(or our parents' insanity...).
Don't let your past ruin your future. You deserve better. I'm sure life will reward you with a man like you wish and that you'll be finally happy with him and your kids.
Don't give up.
Well I had two guinea pigs. I'm going to have to work on my relationship with the other pig. I really wanted a pet at school (an apartment cat) but we can't work that you.

I don't want to give up. Thank you for listening.
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Old Jul 28, 2013, 08:53 AM
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growlithing, I grew up in an abusive family, with parents who attempted to keep control even after I went to college. It seemed to me that it would be completely impossible to just break away and not return home for summers. I had that exact discussion with my college therapist over and over. Finally, I did just tell them that I was getting an apartment for the summer and not returning to live with them. It was a huge big deal, but in the end, I lived in my apartment and they lived with that fact.

If you want to PM me sometime, please feel free. I just wanted to let you know that although it seems impossible to break away, it isn't. Most universities now provide financial aid and support and there are loans available. Debt is better than death was my conclusion, because I knew that I would eventually die living with them.

I am sorry for you loss of the pig, also. I lost a hamster I adored once and it was hard to deal with the people who acted like she was "just" a hamster and not a real pet.
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Old Jul 28, 2013, 08:54 AM
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He's coming to pick me up and take me back into my basement prison. My mom is going to be mad at me because I didn't lose enough weight. I'm so scared. I'm not sure I can do this but I can't do anything to hurt myself. All of my tools are gone until I get back there. And even then I can't do anything drastic. My little brother might find me. I don't know how I'm gonna survive.
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Old Jul 28, 2013, 10:26 AM
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growlithing, I grew up in an abusive family, with parents who attempted to keep control even after I went to college. It seemed to me that it would be completely impossible to just break away and not return home for summers. I had that exact discussion with my college therapist over and over. Finally, I did just tell them that I was getting an apartment for the summer and not returning to live with them. It was a huge big deal, but in the end, I lived in my apartment and they lived with that fact.

If you want to PM me sometime, please feel free. I just wanted to let you know that although it seems impossible to break away, it isn't. Most universities now provide financial aid and support and there are loans available. Debt is better than death was my conclusion, because I knew that I would eventually die living with them.

I am sorry for you loss of the pig, also. I lost a hamster I adored once and it was hard to deal with the people who acted like she was "just" a hamster and not a real pet.
Thank you so much. I'm in that place where I really don't know how I could do that at this point. I question my ability to hold a normal job and handle myself. I'm going to try and limit going back as much as humanly possible, but I know I have to go back sometimes because I have to see my surgeon (I had a major surgery last December). I need to cut ties with them, I think that's clear at this point. I just don't know if I am capable of doing so.
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Old Jul 28, 2013, 10:43 AM
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Growlithing, there are other surgeons. Ask your surgeon for a referral to a colleague in the Boston area. As you know, it's one of the best medical areas in the country. All you need say is that your studies make it increasingly difficult for you to leave campus.

Does your college offer work-study jobs? Especially ones that would continue between terms? One of the things I did to avoid going home, besides taking a summer class, was to work shelving books in the library. It was a great job for me: cool inside, interesting books to look at, and largely solitary work--very low stress. And the library was open all year.
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Old Jul 28, 2013, 10:49 AM
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Growlithing, there are other surgeons. Ask your surgeon for a referral to a colleague in the Boston area. As you know, it's one of the best medical areas in the country. All you need say is that your studies make it increasingly difficult for you to leave campus.

Does your college offer work-study jobs? Especially ones that would continue between terms? One of the things I did to avoid going home, besides taking a summer class, was to work shelving books in the library. It was a great job for me: cool inside, interesting books to look at, and largely solitary work--very low stress. And the library was open all year.
Yes, they do offer work studies that last year long. I could probably convince them that I need to come back less often. Some of my friends also live in Boston year so I wouldn't be lonely. I'm also going to seriously try for several Christmas gigs (a great season for trumpet players) so I can avoid that break too.

I obviously can't keep doing this because each time I try to go back there, I've been much worse. I worry about how bad it'll be next time. This can't become a new thing.
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Old Jul 28, 2013, 10:55 AM
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My T and I went over how to break with them - at least in terms of never living with them again - for quite a while and he had practical suggestions and plans. I had developed a serious eating disorder the summer before while living with them, and relapsed every time I went home on a break. My T suggested telling them that my doctor wanted me to stay in the college town I lived in for the summer and breaks because he wanted me to continue care with him (something about continuity of care or something). That was what finally made them loosen the stranglehold. I had to stay in my town because the doctor said so.

Getting a job during college and making do on what you earn is really rough, but was a life safer for me. I quite literally survived on $8000 income in a year. I lost weight and there were many things I could not do, but I did it and was healthier and happier.
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Old Jul 28, 2013, 02:21 PM
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My T and I went over how to break with them - at least in terms of never living with them again - for quite a while and he had practical suggestions and plans. I had developed a serious eating disorder the summer before while living with them, and relapsed every time I went home on a break. My T suggested telling them that my doctor wanted me to stay in the college town I lived in for the summer and breaks because he wanted me to continue care with him (something about continuity of care or something). That was what finally made them loosen the stranglehold. I had to stay in my town because the doctor said so.

Getting a job during college and making do on what you earn is really rough, but was a life safer for me. I quite literally survived on $8000 income in a year. I lost weight and there were many things I could not do, but I did it and was healthier and happier.
I'm not even sure I'd be able to make $8000 a year. Even if I did, I wouldn't know how to handle it. I wouldn't be able to afford my vitamins and protein supplements needed for me to sustain myself after my surgery. I'm kinda a disorganized, lazy disaster of a human being and I'm not sure I could do that.
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Old Jul 28, 2013, 04:17 PM
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When you get back with your T, she could help you break this down into manageable steps. Moving out is overwhelming in any circumstance--thinking about it all at once makes it seem un-doable.

I know you have a hard time talking to T---Can you start writing out your thoughts now so when you see her you can just hand her a letter?
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Old Jul 28, 2013, 04:24 PM
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When you get back with your T, she could help you break this down into manageable steps. Moving out is overwhelming in any circumstance--thinking about it all at once makes it seem un-doable.

I know you have a hard time talking to T---Can you start writing out your thoughts now so when you see her you can just hand her a letter?
Yes. I've been working on a letter to her for quite a while now. It's hard to really write what I feel and address it to her so I've been using what I've been writing on PC as a skeleton. She's been wanting me to tell her how I feel for her for years. I wanted to work on that over the summer and I've written and deleted stuff over and over. I almost think that giving her almost literally what I post here would be the best, most honest, route. I have a much easier time talking to people when I'm semi-anonymous. I'm just really scared to give her this stuff for whatever reason
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Old Jul 28, 2013, 04:50 PM
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I am so sorry for the loss of your piggy. I had parents were were emotionally abusive and invalidating and pets were the only source of love I had growing up. Pets are amazing friends.
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Old Jul 28, 2013, 04:57 PM
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I am so sorry for the loss of your piggy. I had parents were were emotionally abusive and invalidating and pets were the only source of love I had growing up. Pets are amazing friends.
Thanks. This one really helped me through a lot of tough times in high school/middle school. She lived 8 years! I know I should be happy that she had such a great life, but I keep forgetting she's gone and wanting to run scoop her up when I get out of this damn car.

I'm worried about my other piggy though too. She might be depressed and lonely. I might need to get her a new friend. I mean, I'm still going to be sore from the loss, but I think raising a baby pig could potentially be one of the best things I could do for both me and the surviving pig.
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Old Jul 28, 2013, 05:02 PM
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That's a great decision if you are up for it! I am glad there is a remaining piggy friend at home for you. <3. I didn't know they could live 8 years! nice.
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Old Jul 28, 2013, 05:09 PM
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That's a great decision if you are up for it! I am glad there is a remaining piggy friend at home for you. <3. I didn't know they could live 8 years! nice.
She was very well taken care of. I always saw to that.

Yeah, I'm glad the other one is around too. I just hope she's not too lost without her friend. This one is almost three years old and in great health so I can't have her just wallow in misery for years, but I also don't know how anxious she'd be with a new pig. I think she has some piggy anxiety issues :P
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Old Jul 28, 2013, 05:33 PM
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Sometimes they move on surprisingly well when they get their human all to themselves. Wait and see.
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Old Jul 28, 2013, 05:35 PM
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Sometimes they move on surprisingly well when they get their human all to themselves. Wait and see.
According to my sister, that doesn't seem to be the case thus far :/
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Here's another article that addresses the original question:

A Matter of Life and Death

I've been in full-time private practice for almost 30 years. I've seen maybe 10,000 families (it certainly feels that way.) In that time, three patients in my practice killed themselves. Strangely enough, the three suicides were eerily similar. Each suicide has left me shell-shocked and questioning my therapeutic attitudes and methods.
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The thoughts were always a comfort to me, my life and I can take it. I can end this game at any time, all the pain and sadness gone. I understand SI attempts and "being in control", I also read you really don't want to die. Just know that unfortunately thoughts can lead to actions in the heat of a moment. Those you would have leave behind, in the event you dont succeed, may not be able to deal with your attempt and you could lose the ones you loved ... the ones you felt loved by ...in this ill attempt at control. They have every right to wash their hands of you out of self protection and that's not what you set out to do, but it happens. If you ever wanna talk PM me. I have extensive experience in this realm. From 18 to 39 .... I'll be 40 next week and my childhood still haunts me, but I have decided that instead of trying to escape thru SI , I will fight to make my life better with that same amount of energy. Learning that I can handle my own life ( job, apartment, friends etc ) is a healthier way to gain that control. SI for me was playing with fire and instead of escaping through death, all I should have done was run.
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Old Jul 29, 2013, 11:13 PM
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How are you doing, Growlithing? Check in, OK?
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Old Jul 29, 2013, 11:21 PM
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How are you doing, Growlithing? Check in, OK?
I'm still here. Thanks for checking in. I just kinda lost my **** because my mom just randomly came down here and told me she was completely cutting me off unless I finished all of this damn make up work for this one class I took last semester by tomorrow morning. She gave me no warning about this ahead of time, didn't even really communicate that it was a big deal.

[background] Basically, last semester, I started breaking down around the time of the bombings that happened down the street and I was terrified of leaving school and I totally forgot to keep up one of my classes and I ended up getting a D because of it. She threatened me if I didn't show her my grades so I made up this crazy story and then frantically emailed one of the deans of the school and got permission to make up work. ... I hadn't looked at it until a few minutes ago and I don't remember how to do it. I guess I'll just have to make stuff up to show her and worry about it later.

So I'm still alive, but not at all happy. I am feeling physically a little better having starting to eat more/better.
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Old Jul 29, 2013, 11:47 PM
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Good that you're eating better! I know that can be tough. My T once told me that all of the medication and therapy in the world wouldn't help me if I didn't take basic care of myself, and he was absolutely right.

The bombings were awful. I have estranged family in that area, so I understand the anxiety being there would have caused. I'm sure your Dean understood that as well.

Can you contact your Prof to get some clarity about what you don't understand about your assignments? As a prof myself, I'm always happy to respond to such e-mails from students. Then you can show your Mom--if she demands to see--the steps you've taken. If she uses that as an excuse to belittle you, steel yourself, and calmly say, " I'm taking the steps my Prof recommends and finds acceptable; that's all that matters." And just ignore anything she says further. Don't engage. I know how frightening it can be to confront an abusive parent, but putting up a responsive wall they can bounce off of is easier.

Have you ever read the short story, "Bartleby, the Scrivener"? It's by Melville. It's so old, you can find it free on-line. I think it would help you to see how he resists.

Keep letting us know what's going on, ok?
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Old Jul 29, 2013, 11:55 PM
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Do what you can, growlithing. Know that, if she does cut you off, you will survive it, as many have before you. It might be difficult, but you will find a way. And that she'll be doing you a favor in the long run.

We're all here for you. Keep in touch. Take good care of yourself, eat right, take walks, whatever is best for you. And remember--you own your life. No one can take that away from you.
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