Couch 83: In a world where...

Thanks. I can still function and all, they are just unpleasant and annoying. I know what they are so I am not super upset when they occur - it is just like **** I have to endure this for about 15 minutes. When they happen I'm not thinking about anything bad or worrisome – I can just be sitting and reading a happy book. The therapist thinks there are stressful things going on that I don't think are all that stressful-and when they happen I am not thinking about that in the first place.
Just listening is great.

Are you sure you wouldn't like us to fix it for you? Or cuddle you relentlessly until you feel better? How about more advice? Would that be good?

Hope that made you laugh and didn't make you more tense.

At least relentless cuddling might give one a reason to have panic attacks. We do try to be supportive here!!

Eta - well, as long as we dont actually have to get up from the couch...

Yeah, I almost gave myself a panic attack with the relentless cuddling thing. hahaha.

Also, is it weird that when the marriage counselor used the word 'enmeshment' one time when discussing marriage, I started having really horrible chest pains and couldn't breathe? The MC cracked up when I said that word gave me chest pains. I didn't think it was funny.

Sorry to hear about the panic attacks SD. Unhugs. Lol @ the relentless cuddling...
I was far sicker yesterday than was warrented by a couple of glasses of wine and some (ack) peanut better. Seriously, it was probably more like a glass and a half. It got worse after T too. That makes two weeks running I've had physical reactions to T. I know I'm stressed out - my exit date is approaching, but debilitating illness isn't exactly helpful. All I needed to do yesterday was drop off an application for an apartment, which I will most likely be approved for, and I couldn't do it because I was too busy paying homage to the porcelain god. I still feel shaky today.


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SD, consider that an "un"hug, and Shakey you have an extra! Being sick is the pits. Hope you are on the mend.

SD, my daughter has panic attacks almost daily, sometimes multiple times daily. The most helpful advice she was able to get to "stop one in it's tracks" is to submerge your hands up to the wrists in ice water, or to breathe through a drinking straw. There is some meditation and self-talk in there, too, but mainly the shock to the system and the deliberate slowing of the breath.

I think the "hidden" stressors is so much bunk. I should know if something is bothering me or not! Are you sure there isn't a physical reason for your rapid heartbeat or respirations?

Not funny at all. I hate that word! And these days I'm all about "detachment with love" which sounds so much better than being joined at the hip, heart, and soul with someone else. Way too much responsibility for me.

My sister and I had a discussion that each of us would find the other's romantic relationship style intolerable. Honest to god, I would start throwing elbows and punching the person in the face if the partner would be all in my space the way her romantic partner is in hers. My H had to learn to not let it hurt his feelings when I would just suddenly lose the ability to allow him to touch and start yelling GET OFF GET OFF GETOFFGETOFFGETOFF! He also learned quite rapidly not to trap my legs under the covers or touch my feet without warning me.

I feel a little badly that my children also learned not to touch me while I am sleeping. I never hurt them, but I did frighten them by bolting upright and grabbing them when they touched me while I was sleeping.

((MKAC))
I'm the same way about touch. Sometimes it's all I can do not to snap at my kids when they're being all climb-y touch-y in my space. Other times it doesn't bother me at all... Strange...
And I used to get out of the bed and go sleep on the couch when the stbx wouldn't leave me alone.

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Sorry Stopdog... Hope they go away. That's no fun. :/

The tropical monsoon is here. Hope it stays a bit longer this year.

I think i have figured out why i was so annoyed at my T this week. I was unsure of my session time, but i thought asking him to confirmvia text would be frowned on. I arrived and his office was in darkness and his car was not there. He doesn't have secretary so i sat in the waiting room stressing. He turned up all blase and ultracasual. I had. T in my teens who said some pretty unhelpful things while was recovering from a sui attempt after i got out of hospital the second time he had left town apparently leaving his receptionists to sort out the mess.
Play the abandonment issue blues.

Arguing with a conspiracy theorist who refuses to acknowledge that what they're saying is a conspiracy is always... interesting.

Oh no! I wouldn't recommend it, talking to conspiracy theorists.I used to work with one. Was all over the gold standard and didn't believe carbon dating was real.

Back away, slowly...and then run!!

I was married to one for 20 years. I was tolerant because at first i didn't know about conspiracy theories and after i found out about them i would have circular conversations, no wouldn't recommend it.


JS, hows house hunting going?

Hanksterrrrrrrrr (or someone else), do you have an idea for a new couch? I mean, I don't...I always try but I suck at this.

Can i state the obviuos....george Orwell.....

Oh yeah...sometimes I need the obvious stated.

Looks like the dog isn't happening. The breeders even want too much for their rescue dogs. I've always dogs from the RSPCA any way. I'll look their bt small dogs are hard to find.

Nothing suitable at RSPCA at the moment. Maybe I shouldn't look as I want to give all of them a home, but many of the dogs would appeal to the dog fighting community I fear.

I need to get 75% in my final exam, i am always loathe to pull out my special consideration card even if am unwell...

Dropped off the application for the apartment. Looks like I'll have to wait til February to move in though, because my cash assistance expires at the end of January and I can't reapply til February and they won't approve me without it. I was hoping to be out of the shelter inside of two weeks... Ah well, I'll head back down to the DES again and see what I can do... Stbx needs to be paying child support. Perhaps I'll look into that...

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Thats what i was thinking. But then there are the Hay Day commercials too - a cow, a pig, and a duck...

Btw, mkac, i borrowed your "not my monkeys" line in mouse's faux outrage at work thread. Hope that was okay.