Home Menu

Menu


Closed Thread
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #51  
Old Dec 29, 2015, 10:16 AM
neverending neverending is offline
Member
 
Member Since: Aug 2015
Location: Florida
Posts: 363
In a former state I figured out where my pdoc lived n drove by his house once in awhile. It was out of my way. In a different state I found out where my t lived n it way on one of 2 ways I had to use to go to the city so often times I would choosethat route in order to drive by that house. It was curiosity. I never stalked. I also never told them.

I have never told my current t what I did in the past but we have clear boundaries and he has made it known he doesn't want me going past his house. Since I don't drive anymore it isn't an option anyway. But I don't think he wants me to Google map him either so I won't.

For me it was curiosity but I wasn't about to tell them about it.
Thanks for this!
precaryous

advertisement
  #52  
Old Dec 29, 2015, 11:06 AM
rainbow8's Avatar
rainbow8 rainbow8 is offline
Legendary
 
Member Since: Mar 2009
Location: US
Posts: 13,284
Ilikecats, when do you see your T? How are you feeling about telling her now? This thread brought out many replies and different opinions. The same thing happened when I posted a similar thread about 4 years ago. I wonder why this topic arouses so much interest.
Thanks for this!
*Beth*
  #53  
Old Dec 29, 2015, 11:35 AM
atisketatasket's Avatar
atisketatasket atisketatasket is offline
Child of a lesser god
 
Member Since: Jun 2015
Location: Tartarus
Posts: 19,394
Quote:
Originally Posted by rainbow8 View Post
Ilikecats, when do you see your T? How are you feeling about telling her now? This thread brought out many replies and different opinions. The same thing happened when I posted a similar thread about 4 years ago. I wonder why this topic arouses so much interest.
I imagine the interest is due to the fact that many of us think of our homes as our castles.
Thanks for this!
Cinnamon_Stick
  #54  
Old Dec 29, 2015, 11:36 AM
NowhereUSA's Avatar
NowhereUSA NowhereUSA is offline
Magnate
 
Member Since: Jun 2014
Location: Somewhere
Posts: 2,490
Quote:
Originally Posted by atisketatasket View Post
I imagine the interest is due to the fact that many of us think of our homes as our castles.
Your house isn't a castle? I have a moat And a drawbridge.
__________________
“It's a funny thing... but people mostly have it backward. They think they live by what they want. But really, what guides them is what they're afraid of.” ― Khaled Hosseini, And the Mountains Echoed
Thanks for this!
atisketatasket, ilikecats
  #55  
Old Dec 29, 2015, 11:43 AM
Anonymous50005
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally Posted by rainbow8 View Post
Ilikecats, when do you see your T? How are you feeling about telling her now? This thread brought out many replies and different opinions. The same thing happened when I posted a similar thread about 4 years ago. I wonder why this topic arouses so much interest.
As much as people say this is normal behavior, honestly, it is not really. I mean, I can think of no one that I'd be so curious about that I'd seek out their address and go drive by their house. If I have a reason for being there: I've been invited to their house for a gathering, I'm taking my son there for a study session with friends, they say they are having a great garage sale, they've mentioned the great Christmas lights on their street or something, then yes, I'd look up a person's address and go by or to their house. But to just look up someone's address and drive by out of some need to know more about them or be somehow closer to them? That really is a bit odd. Maybe "normal" for therapy behavior to some people, but it is a bit odd for real life.
Thanks for this!
atisketatasket, Cinnamon_Stick
  #56  
Old Dec 29, 2015, 12:01 PM
atisketatasket's Avatar
atisketatasket atisketatasket is offline
Child of a lesser god
 
Member Since: Jun 2015
Location: Tartarus
Posts: 19,394
Quote:
Originally Posted by NowhereUSA View Post
Your house isn't a castle? I have a moat And a drawbridge.
There are man-eating crocodiles in my moat.
Thanks for this!
ilikecats
  #57  
Old Dec 29, 2015, 12:06 PM
Anonymous37780
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
ilikecats, it sounds to me like an emotional attachment. There are boundaries with a therapist and they end after your appointment. They need to decompress to be able to function to allow themselves to help others. Looking up their house and driving by it is a type of stalking and it is not good. It also shows a slight obsession and dependency on your therapist. I would not tell them and i would not do it again. Rather discuss boundaries of a client with a therapist and what is acceptable for detachment. They help you process your problems and transfer the problems so you can work through them. By looking up their house you are undoing the transfer work you are to be working on in counseling. I hope you discuss detachment and transference with them. And leave it at that, tc
Thanks for this!
Sarah1985
  #58  
Old Dec 29, 2015, 12:14 PM
rainbow8's Avatar
rainbow8 rainbow8 is offline
Legendary
 
Member Since: Mar 2009
Location: US
Posts: 13,284
Quote:
Originally Posted by lolagrace View Post
As much as people say this is normal behavior, honestly, it is not really. I mean, I can think of no one that I'd be so curious about that I'd seek out their address and go drive by their house. If I have a reason for being there: I've been invited to their house for a gathering, I'm taking my son there for a study session with friends, they say they are having a great garage sale, they've mentioned the great Christmas lights on their street or something, then yes, I'd look up a person's address and go by or to their house. But to just look up someone's address and drive by out of some need to know more about them or be somehow closer to them? That really is a bit odd. Maybe "normal" for therapy behavior to some people, but it is a bit odd for real life.
I agree that it's odd for real life. I never had any desire to do that with anyone else except my Ts. So I'm not sure how that translates into real life issues. Well, for me it may be about feeling left out, not knowing. But I never wanted to drive by anyone's house for that reason, in real life. Yet I had a compulsion to drive by all 3 of my T's homes, and did so. The other 2 had therapy in their homes so I didn't have the need. I admit it's weird but a lot of people on this thread are admitting the same thing.
Hugs from:
Inner_Firefly
  #59  
Old Dec 29, 2015, 12:17 PM
rainbow8's Avatar
rainbow8 rainbow8 is offline
Legendary
 
Member Since: Mar 2009
Location: US
Posts: 13,284
I really wanted to hear from ilikecats again. Are you there? When I posted a similar thread I got overwhelmed by all the responses. Are you okay?
Thanks for this!
*Beth*, ilikecats
  #60  
Old Dec 29, 2015, 12:59 PM
ilikecats's Avatar
ilikecats ilikecats is offline
Veteran Member
 
Member Since: Nov 2015
Location: United States
Posts: 669
Thanks for all the responses you guys! I wasn't able to post earlier because my power went out because of the weather. But I'd like to respond to some of the things that were said. Someone asked me when I see my T, and I see her on the 4th. A couple of people said something about me looking up my T's address, and I'd just like the clarify that I didn't intentionally search for it. I just found it while I was googling her. So, while I was trying to find stuff out about her, I didn't specifically look for her address. It just showed up. Also, I agree that this is odd behavior for real life. I don't tend to wonder about where other people live, and I don't feel the need to drive by their homes. I wonder why I feel like doing it with my T. I still haven't decided whether or not to tell her. Right now I feel like I won't, but I may change my mind. My main concern is the fact that I still want to drive by her house again, even though I've already seen it. I think if those feelings continue, and if I drive by it more, I probably will have to tell her about it. Anyways, thanks everyone for all of the insight and advice! I really appreciate it.
__________________
"The illusion of effortlessness requires a great effort indeed."
Hugs from:
precaryous, rainbow8
Thanks for this!
atisketatasket, precaryous, rainbow8
  #61  
Old Dec 29, 2015, 01:04 PM
Myrto's Avatar
Myrto Myrto is offline
Poohbah
 
Member Since: Jun 2014
Location: Belgium
Posts: 1,179
Quote:
Originally Posted by lolagrace View Post
As much as people say this is normal behavior, honestly, it is not really. I mean, I can think of no one that I'd be so curious about that I'd seek out their address and go drive by their house. If I have a reason for being there: I've been invited to their house for a gathering, I'm taking my son there for a study session with friends, they say they are having a great garage sale, they've mentioned the great Christmas lights on their street or something, then yes, I'd look up a person's address and go by or to their house. But to just look up someone's address and drive by out of some need to know more about them or be somehow closer to them? That really is a bit odd. Maybe "normal" for therapy behavior to some people, but it is a bit odd for real life.
I genuinely don't find that odd at all. Curiosity takes many forms and yes curiosity was one of the reasons I would imagine someone would be driving past their therapist's house. I'm not sure your post is actually supportive.
Personally I find the stuff some people believe in (as in religion) way more odd than some behaviours.
Hugs from:
*Beth*
Thanks for this!
*Beth*, Inner_Firefly, PinkFlamingo99
  #62  
Old Dec 29, 2015, 01:09 PM
Anonymous50005
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally Posted by Myrto View Post
I genuinely don't find that odd at all. Curiosity takes many forms and yes curiosity was one of the reasons I would imagine someone would be driving past their therapist's house. I'm not sure your post is actually supportive.
Personally I find the stuff some people believe in (as in religion) way more odd than some behaviours.
I was simply answering Rainbow's post about why people have such strong reactions to the whole drive-by issue. I was giving information about what people generally do or don't do in regular situations as opposed to therapy ones.
Thanks for this!
atisketatasket
  #63  
Old Dec 29, 2015, 01:12 PM
stopdog stopdog is offline
underdog is here
 
Member Since: Sep 2011
Location: blank
Posts: 35,154
It never crossed my mind to be bothered when students told me they drove past my house. Any number of people drive past my house on daily basis. It is public space. Others get to be on it. Now if I lived in the middle of 50 private acres with a fence, it might concern me, but mere drive by peering in a suburban neighborhood is not something to get worked up about in my opinion.
__________________
Please NO @

Selfishness is not living as one wishes to live, it is asking others to live as one wishes to live.
Oscar Wilde
Well Behaved Women Seldom Make History - Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.
Thanks for this!
*Beth*, Inner_Firefly, Myrto, rainbow8
  #64  
Old Dec 29, 2015, 02:34 PM
PinkFlamingo99's Avatar
PinkFlamingo99 PinkFlamingo99 is offline
Magnate
 
Member Since: Apr 2015
Location: Canada
Posts: 2,680
I don't see anything wrong with doing it once, out of curiousity. I've done this with a few people, or used Google street view. If you start doing it a lot, or even more than once, I'd worry about it being an obsessive behaviour. That kind of obsession does not feel good. Hugs. Try to resist doing it again. I wouldn't feel the need to confess to doing it once.
  #65  
Old Dec 29, 2015, 02:39 PM
Anonymous37903
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally Posted by ilikecats View Post
I drove past my T's house tonight. I'm pretty sure it was her house anyways. A few months ago I googled my T, and one of the things I found was what looked to be her address. I didn't do anything then, but I did think about driving past it. I kept thinking about it once in a while, and tonight I decided to drive past it. She's on vacation this week, so I knew I wouldn't accidentally run into her. Anyways, I feel a bit guilty about this, and I feel like I should tell her about it when she gets back. But I'm worried that if I do, she'll get creeped out or be angry at me. Maybe even stop seeing me? Or set more boundaries? I don't want that to happen, and if I don't tell her, it won't. But I just feel like I should tell her. I'm probably going to drive past it again a time or two before she gets back. It was nighttime when I went past tonight, and I'd like to see it in the day. I would never knock on her door or intrude on her while she's there, but I just like to see her house and see where she lives. Is this how stalkers start? I don't have any intention to stalk her, and I don't want to scare her or make her uncomfortable. That would be another issue with telling her. I don't want to make her uncomfortable, but if I tell her she might feel that way. But I just feel kinda guilty. But at the same time, it's not like I'm doing any harm, I'm just looking at a house. Gah! What should I do?
Save on the petrol (gas) and go on Google Earth. Takes you right to their front door 😂
Thanks for this!
atisketatasket, Inner_Firefly
  #66  
Old Dec 29, 2015, 03:58 PM
divine1966's Avatar
divine1966 divine1966 is offline
Legendary Wise Elder
 
Member Since: Dec 2014
Location: US
Posts: 23,231
Well talking about what's normal/odd or what not.

Most people are in therapy because they have some type of issue/concern/need etc so what's normal or not hard to determine in this context. I personally can't imagine to care or be attracted or attached that much to a therapist, but I have been very unhealthy attached to people in the past ( men). So just because they were not therapists it doesn't make me any healthier or better than others.

I was once obsessed with the city I planned on moving to ( for about 10 years and in fact I recently looked it up again) in a middle on nowhere little town lol not even a person. Lol and if you meet me you'd think I am the most normal person you know. Ha!

So who is to say what's normal...

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Thanks for this!
*Beth*, PinkFlamingo99
  #67  
Old Dec 29, 2015, 04:27 PM
atisketatasket's Avatar
atisketatasket atisketatasket is offline
Child of a lesser god
 
Member Since: Jun 2015
Location: Tartarus
Posts: 19,394
I hesitate to use the word abnormal or odd, having been tagged too often with those labels myself, but I do think most people would stop themselves before going out of their way to drive by someone's house. I had the impulse myself a few times during a couple of crushes in high school and college, and never acted on it.

How many people on this thread would not be bothered if they learned that what is in effect an acquaintance - not a friend, not a family member, because that is not what a therapist's clients are to them - drove out of their way just to eyeball the house where they lived? Imagine a client of yours did that, or a co-worker you didn't know well. SD has already said she isn't bothered by it, but I would be.

And may I also point out that there is a reason that "curiosity killed the cat" is such a popular saying.
  #68  
Old Dec 29, 2015, 05:15 PM
divine1966's Avatar
divine1966 divine1966 is offline
Legendary Wise Elder
 
Member Since: Dec 2014
Location: US
Posts: 23,231
I would be bothered if students of mine would go out of the way to see where I live. I keep in touch with some of them outside of school but that's different as its my choice. But I think in situation with the therapist person might have some specific issue that causes them to drive and look at other peoples houses. I don't think someone does it to be malicious.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Thanks for this!
atisketatasket
  #69  
Old Dec 29, 2015, 05:21 PM
stopdog stopdog is offline
underdog is here
 
Member Since: Sep 2011
Location: blank
Posts: 35,154
Quote:
Originally Posted by atisketatasket View Post

And may I also point out that there is a reason that "curiosity killed the cat" is such a popular saying.
Isn't there a rejoinder? Curiosity killed the cat - satisfaction brought it back
__________________
Please NO @

Selfishness is not living as one wishes to live, it is asking others to live as one wishes to live.
Oscar Wilde
Well Behaved Women Seldom Make History - Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.
Thanks for this!
atisketatasket
  #70  
Old Dec 29, 2015, 05:25 PM
Inner_Firefly Inner_Firefly is offline
Member
 
Member Since: Mar 2014
Location: at home
Posts: 340
Quote:
Originally Posted by stopdog View Post
It never crossed my mind to be bothered when students told me they drove past my house. Any number of people drive past my house on daily basis. It is public space. Others get to be on it. Now if I lived in the middle of 50 private acres with a fence, it might concern me, but mere drive by peering in a suburban neighborhood is not something to get worked up about in my opinion.
Me too, I'm kind of confused, isn't the street public space? How about all the other people who drive by? I told T I love walking near her office building because just seeing the building is soothing and comforting. It brings back happy memories, gives me positive energy and an excuse to get out of the house. T says it's great. She understands it's just a comfort thing, not a big deal. She was relaxed and understanding when I told her I googled her, said what's on the internet is public. So eventually I got busy doing other things but occasionally I still Google her to make sure she exists in real life outside of the therapy room.
Thanks for this!
*Beth*, Myrto, PinkFlamingo99
  #71  
Old Dec 29, 2015, 05:30 PM
atisketatasket's Avatar
atisketatasket atisketatasket is offline
Child of a lesser god
 
Member Since: Jun 2015
Location: Tartarus
Posts: 19,394
Quote:
Originally Posted by stopdog View Post
Isn't there a rejoinder? Curiosity killed the cat - satisfaction brought it back
Until it hits its ninth life!
Thanks for this!
stopdog
  #72  
Old Dec 29, 2015, 06:19 PM
Pennster Pennster is offline
Poohbah
 
Member Since: Aug 2013
Location: US
Posts: 1,030
Quote:
Originally Posted by atisketatasket View Post
I hesitate to use the word abnormal or odd, having been tagged too often with those labels myself, but I do think most people would stop themselves before going out of their way to drive by someone's house. I had the impulse myself a few times during a couple of crushes in high school and college, and never acted on it.

How many people on this thread would not be bothered if they learned that what is in effect an acquaintance - not a friend, not a family member, because that is not what a therapist's clients are to them - drove out of their way just to eyeball the house where they lived? Imagine a client of yours did that, or a co-worker you didn't know well. SD has already said she isn't bothered by it, but I would be.

And may I also point out that there is a reason that "curiosity killed the cat" is such a popular saying.
This is something that wouldn't bother me - streets are public, paid for by taxes, and open to anyone. I pretty much expect that anyone going by my house might have a look at it, and it's one of the reasons I decorate it with flowers and wreaths and cut the lawn and try to make the outside look decent. If I thought I was the only one who would ever look at it I'd not bother with any of that.

I've never had the impulse to drive by a therapist's house, but I don't think it's an inherently bad thing to do. I do often pass the houses of people that I know because they are on my way somewhere, and do no more than have a little gawk to see if they might be home while thinking warmly of them.
Hugs from:
*Beth*
Thanks for this!
*Beth*, Inner_Firefly, Myrto
  #73  
Old Dec 29, 2015, 06:27 PM
atisketatasket's Avatar
atisketatasket atisketatasket is offline
Child of a lesser god
 
Member Since: Jun 2015
Location: Tartarus
Posts: 19,394
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pennster View Post
This is something that wouldn't bother me - streets are public, paid for by taxes, and open to anyone. I pretty much expect that anyone going by my house might have a look at it, and it's one of the reasons I decorate it with flowers and wreaths and cut the lawn and try to make the outside look decent. If I thought I was the only one who would ever look at it I'd not bother with any of that.

I've never had the impulse to drive by a therapist's house, but I don't think it's an inherently bad thing to do. I do often pass the houses of people that I know because they are on my way somewhere, and do no more than have a little gawk to see if they might be home while thinking warmly of them.
Sure, streets are public, but that's not relevant, since I'm not claiming anything illegal or bad is happening when someone drives by another's house. I'm also not asking about just anyone passing by, though. I'm asking about someone you know going out of their way to check out your house. The idea of a student going out of their way to see where I live makes me uncomfortable. I think it would make a good number of people uncomfortable; all of this was first said in response to another poster who wondered why this is such a hot-button issue. And I think that's why.
  #74  
Old Dec 29, 2015, 06:36 PM
Pennster Pennster is offline
Poohbah
 
Member Since: Aug 2013
Location: US
Posts: 1,030
Quote:
Originally Posted by atisketatasket View Post
Sure, streets are public, but that's not relevant, since I'm not claiming anything illegal or bad is happening when someone drives by another's house. I'm also not asking about just anyone passing by, though. I'm asking about someone you know going out of their way to check out your house. The idea of a student going out of their way to see where I live makes me uncomfortable. I think it would make a good number of people uncomfortable; all of this was first said in response to another poster who wondered why this is such a hot-button issue. And I think that's why.
Ah, I was just imagining someone I knew driving by my house to take a look at it, as you had referred to in your question about whether that would bother people. It wouldn't bother me, because I believe really strongly in the notion of public space, and that we are all free to be out and about in it (as long as we behave in an unthreatening manner, of course). I just wanted to express the fact that it would not make me uncomfortable and explain my reasoning.

It's cool if we disagree. I just wouldn't see it as a problem if someone I knew were curious about where I lived and wanted to drive past to see my house, no more than it troubles me that Google Earth passes by and takes a picture of it and then allows anyone in the world to access it.
Thanks for this!
*Beth*, atisketatasket
  #75  
Old Dec 29, 2015, 06:51 PM
Anonymous50005
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pennster View Post
Ah, I was just imagining someone I knew driving by my house to take a look at it, as you had referred to in your question about whether that would bother people. It wouldn't bother me, because I believe really strongly in the notion of public space, and that we are all free to be out and about in it (as long as we behave in an unthreatening manner, of course). I just wanted to express the fact that it would not make me uncomfortable and explain my reasoning.

It's cool if we disagree. I just wouldn't see it as a problem if someone I knew were curious about where I lived and wanted to drive past to see my house, no more than it troubles me that Google Earth passes by and takes a picture of it and then allows anyone in the world to access it.
It can take on a different oddness though if you are in a position of dealing with people who could create problems. I don't specifically let my students know where I live because I absolutely don't want to find them on my doorstep, nor their parents, and unfortunately, I've known of cases where that has happened to teachers and administrators. Same reason I don't make parent phone calls from any personal phone; only from work. I don't want them to have my personal number and start calling me. Not everyone is completely balanced out there (and sometimes it is surprising which ones end up showing a real imbalance) and I'm not going to open myself up to those kinds of issues where I can avoid it.
Thanks for this!
atisketatasket, Lauliza
Closed Thread
Views: 15228

attentionThis is an old thread. You probably should not post your reply to it, as the original poster is unlikely to see it.




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:41 PM.
Powered by vBulletin® — Copyright © 2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.




 

My Support Forums

My Support Forums is the online community that was originally begun as the Psych Central Forums in 2001. It now runs as an independent self-help support group community for mental health, personality, and psychological issues and is overseen by a group of dedicated, caring volunteers from around the world.

 

Helplines and Lifelines

The material on this site is for informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis or treatment provided by a qualified health care provider.

Always consult your doctor or mental health professional before trying anything you read here.