i saw my psychologist yesterday and we did have a lot to catch up about in relation to my last hospital stay but the whole reason the doctors discharged me was to do this DBT group my psychologist runs privately that is all they talked about "do the DBT" "you need to do the DBT" well my psychologist didnt say anything about it yesterday and today i get this text from him saying that the group was full and i couldnt do it which means waiting over 20 weeks to do the next one possibly more than 30. i feel horrible i thought i could hold out for a few weeks (DBT was meant to start july) but not that long i dont want to end up in hospital again but i feel even worse then before i went in the first time the demons wont stop bothering me and i feel horrible i cant explain it i just i dont know what to do anymore. i am not longer at the house place so now it is like i have just been dumped out in the cold left to slowly freeze to death. i am supposed to see my psychiatrist tomorrow ugh idk anymore i am too tired for all of this. i told my psychologist i was fine to wait for the next group but i dont know what to do now.

[retro_chic]

I'm sorry this is happening to you. Would it be possible to ask your psychologist if they know of another DBT group you could join? Not necessarily one run by him but he could know of another one perhaps? I know how frustrating this sort of thing can be; I've been trying to get in to see a Pdoc for over a month now and they all have super long waiting lists (until like October). I don't know what to do and I just keep getting worse and worse.

Anyway, I hope you're able to get this sorted out. Good luck and take care!

Originally Posted by retro_chic

I'm sorry this is happening to you. Would it be possible to ask your psychologist if they know of another DBT group you could join? Not necessarily one run by him but he could know of another one perhaps? I know how frustrating this sort of thing can be; I've been trying to get in to see a Pdoc for over a month now and they all have super long waiting lists (until like October). I don't know what to do and I just keep getting worse and worse.

Anyway, I hope you're able to get this sorted out. Good luck and take care!

i dont know if i would trust anyone else enough to do the DBT with plus he knows my history so i feel like if i did it with someone else it would not work very well nor am i sure there is even space or i could afford it ugh i just feel like everything is ruined and i have like basically no reason to stick around anymore like i feel like it is a sign like the universe doesnt want me in it anymore or something.

Well at least one person cares.

[LonesomeTonight]

Could you be put on the list for the group starting in July in case someone decides not to attend or drops out? Like a waitlist?

Do you think he could make an exception? For example, maybe the group has 15 people in it. It wouldn't hurt him to have ONE extra person (in my opinion).

You could ask him for an exception. Tell him exactly how bad you feel, and tell him why you want him to make an exception

[here today]

Originally Posted by LonesomeTonight

Could you be put on the list for the group starting in July in case someone decides not to attend or drops out? Like a waitlist?

Good idea.

[here today]

Originally Posted by bluebicycle

Do you think he could make an exception? For example, maybe the group has 15 people in it. It wouldn't hurt him to have ONE extra person (in my opinion).

You could ask him for an exception. Tell him exactly how bad you feel, and tell him why you want him to make an exception

Also a good idea. Shows you're taking initiative about your own care. -- which may give them more to work with, to help you with

there are no wait lists and no exceptions the group costs $2400 before the commencement of the group so i could not just get the money in time and also no one else would just drop out if they had already paid cause it is not cheap. apparently my psychologist sent my mum an email asking why the hospital discharged me. they discharged me to do the DBT group which they apparently hadnt checked if i could do it in the first place so i thought i could just wait a few weeks and then i would have something to keep me sticking around but now i feel like everyone has totally given up even my psychiatrist seems to be giving up. i feel like maybe i should too. i am obviously worth nothing to anyone.

i feel like i shouldnt even bother trying anymore like no one actually cares nobody gives a damn. which is fine if they would let me go i dont even know if i can talk to my psychologist about this like i feel like there is no point trying anymore i dont think anyone can help me i can feel it like there iis something ripping inside me tearing reminding me that this is how it has always been and how it always will be i cant explain my world to people properly i dont even live here anymore i live in between the 2 drifting, falling, scrambling. but they are dragging me deeper away from this one every day. i have tried explaining this to my all my psychs but i dont think i can i dont think i fit into anything i just dont know what to do anymore maybe i should just give up but i dont know how to tell my psychologist.

[LonesomeTonight]

Originally Posted by eden1515

i feel like i shouldnt even bother trying anymore like no one actually cares nobody gives a damn. which is fine if they would let me go i dont even know if i can talk to my psychologist about this like i feel like there is no point trying anymore i dont think anyone can help me i can feel it like there iis something ripping inside me tearing reminding me that this is how it has always been and how it always will be i cant explain my world to people properly i dont even live here anymore i live in between the 2 drifting, falling, scrambling. but they are dragging me deeper away from this one every day. i have tried explaining this to my all my psychs but i dont think i can i dont think i fit into anything i just dont know what to do anymore maybe i should just give up but i dont know how to tell my psychologist.

Could you try showing him what you wrote here, like this and your last post?

Originally Posted by LonesomeTonight

Could you try showing him what you wrote here, like this and your last post?

I dont think i can even have the conversation i literally feel like everyone has just dumped me in the garbage thrown me out with the scraps even on here people seem to want me gone maybe that is just meant to be.

[Angelique67]

Originally Posted by eden1515

I dont think i can even have the conversation i literally feel like everyone has just dumped me in the garbage thrown me out with the scraps even on here people seem to want me gone maybe that is just meant to be.

I don't want you gone. Do you mean people in the psychotherapy forum? I think they may not know what to say.

[here today]

Originally Posted by eden1515

there are no wait lists and no exceptions the group costs $2400 before the commencement of the group so i could not just get the money in time and also no one else would just drop out if they had already paid cause it is not cheap. apparently my psychologist sent my mum an email asking why the hospital discharged me. they discharged me to do the DBT group which they apparently hadnt checked if i could do it in the first place so i thought i could just wait a few weeks and then i would have something to keep me sticking around but now i feel like everyone has totally given up even my psychiatrist seems to be giving up. i feel like maybe i should too. i am obviously worth nothing to anyone.

My guess is that they don't know what to do to help you. That and the hospital and the house just passed the buck when they didn't know what to do. Doesn't mean that you're worthless, more that they just don't know what to do.

Can you see or feel that you have value to yourself? Anything at all? I know that may be a toughie, I have problems with that, too.

[here today]

Originally Posted by eden1515

i feel like i shouldnt even bother trying anymore like no one actually cares nobody gives a damn. which is fine if they would let me go i dont even know if i can talk to my psychologist about this like i feel like there is no point trying anymore i dont think anyone can help me i can feel it like there iis something ripping inside me tearing reminding me that this is how it has always been and how it always will be i cant explain my world to people properly i dont even live here anymore i live in between the 2 drifting, falling, scrambling. but they are dragging me deeper away from this one every day. i have tried explaining this to my all my psychs but i dont think i can i dont think i fit into anything i just dont know what to do anymore maybe i should just give up but i dont know how to tell my psychologist.

I wish I could convey to you how similar I feel. But I don't know if that would help or not -- I don't have an answer. Just some company, maybe. And my wish that you keep on keeping on and trying as best you can.

Hugs to you, eden. I can't speak for others, but for me, I just don't know what to say.

I don't just mean this forum I just feel like no one wants me around like they tried one thing and because it didn't work I am a hopeless case who is bothering everyone. And no I don't see any value or worth in myself I am a failure and everything I touch I poison. I am just tired of trying to explain things to these people (psychs) and then them never understanding I don't know what words to use to make them see I feel like my psychologist should have said something but maybe he didn't want to have the conversation with me then or maybe he didn't want me to drive after getting the news cause he know I would do something to hurt myself maybe I don't know I don't know anything because no one will tell me anything apperantly my psychologist sent an email to my mum asking why I had been discharged from the hospital. He told me he doesn't think I am safe at home. I can't say he is wrong on that note but I still feel like I can't even talk to him now like he sat there lying the whole time I was in the session. I feel like I can't hold myself up anymore like everytime I stand something comes and hits me to the ground before I have been able to straighten up. I don't feel like they know how I feel how much it hurts how the thing inside me aches and screams and cries like it is hurt too like someone has repeatedly punched and stabbed me over and over and over again. I can't even cry anymore it hurts too much. I keep shaking and rocking trying to make it stop but it never does. I think everyone just think I am feeling the same bad as always when I don't think I have ever felt worse I don't even know if I should be bothered going to my next appointment.

Would you consider a self-directed DBT program. There are many fine workbooks out there.

I have one comment on them however. It is really is to both NOT read ahead and gloss over the homework. It is really important to work through the material slowly and actually do the homework - on a daily basis. Most are designed to take about 12 weeks to complete. Then of course you need to maintain the work afterwards.

Please don't be put off by the title but "CBT for Dummies" was a great book and I am assuming then the DBT version will be similarly awesome. They are set up in a journal format and thus easier to stick to than the other workbooks out there.

Originally Posted by justafriend306

Would you consider a self-directed DBT program. There are many fine workbooks out there.

I have one comment on them however. It is really is to both NOT read ahead and gloss over the homework. It is really important to work through the material slowly and actually do the homework - on a daily basis. Most are designed to take about 12 weeks to complete. Then of course you need to maintain the work afterwards.

Please don't be put off by the title but "CBT for Dummies" was a great book and I am assuming then the DBT version will be similarly awesome. They are set up in a journal format and thus easier to stick to than the other workbooks out there.

I don't think a book would work in the sense that I don't do so well when I have to concentrate on reading big lots of stuff and remember it at the same time it is hard to explain but also I don't want to start a book and have it fail because I don't have the energy for that at all.

I am supposed to see my psychologist in a few days and I don't know what to say to him without making it sound like I think everything is his fault because I don't but also explain how I am feeling. I want to scream.

[atisketatasket]

Originally Posted by eden1515

I am supposed to see my psychologist in a few days and I don't know what to say to him without making it sound like I think everything is his fault because I don't but also explain how I am feeling. I want to scream.

I think you should explain to him how you're feeling. If it comes out sounding like it's his fault, so be it. It's his job to help you, not get upset at things you say.

I don't think I can like I feel like if I tried that I would just explode in the session and that would be very bad.

[divine1966]

What if you show them your threads on here? Like the ones from the past year? Either print or just let them see on the computer or phone? They might start doing something ASAP if they read your threads.

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Originally Posted by divine1966

What if you show them your threads on here? Like the ones from the past year? Either print or just let them see on the computer or phone? They might start doing something ASAP if they read your threads.

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i have written the stuff down and given it to him maybe not in these exact words. i cant now anyway he canceled the appointment.

[divine1966]

Originally Posted by eden1515

i have written the stuff down and given it to him maybe not in these exact words. i cant now anyway he canceled the appointment.

If they read what you wrote here verbatim, they must be horrible doctors and psychologists that they don't do anything about it

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