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Old Mar 28, 2017, 01:55 PM
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Old Mar 28, 2017, 02:09 PM
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Why did this just come up now? Did you contact him again recently?
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Old Mar 28, 2017, 02:11 PM
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I stopped by his office on the way home to ask him for an appointment and then when I got home, I told him that I still wanted him as a psychiatrist so when he said that i would never be his patient again, I asked him if everything he ever told me was a lie. Then I said that he wouldn't care if I died. That's when I got that email. Then I started thinking about suicide.
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Old Mar 28, 2017, 02:15 PM
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From reading your past threads, I believe he has asked for you to not contact him many times and yet you still do so. Him getting a restraining order does not surprise me at all and frankly, I don't blame him. Everyone has the right to have their boundaries respected. Please don't contact him any further, you are only hurting yourself.
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Old Mar 28, 2017, 02:20 PM
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Well, judging by all you have posted about it, I think he has been patient with you long enough and this is a reasonable move. Hope, you really need to find a way to detach yourself from him for good and not make any contact with him. Even if you don't respect other people's boundaries, do you really want to deal with legal issues on top of everything else you already have?
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Old Mar 28, 2017, 02:22 PM
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I'm sorry this happened. Frankly your ex therapist, by all accounts, is not worth getting upset over. He's awful. I would recommend you focus on building a relationship with your new therapist.
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Old Mar 28, 2017, 02:22 PM
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Honestly, I'm not surprised. You've ignored every request, verbal and in writing, to leave him alone. This is his next step.
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Old Mar 28, 2017, 02:48 PM
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Maybe in your therapy some of your work should be on why you have a hard time letting go of people and on boundaries. It might be interesting to know what is driving you to go after someone who has made it clear that he wants no contact. I wonder if you have this problem with other people. It would be worth exploring this.
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Old Mar 28, 2017, 04:17 PM
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That's not the only thing that happened. I talked to current T on the phone for a few minutes and then I called back to the receptionist and told her about my thoughts about
suicide and the police ended up showing up at my house.
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Old Mar 28, 2017, 04:31 PM
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I'm not trying to mean, but you brought that on yourself. In several of your past threads you have mentioned that this man has asked you repeatedly to stop contacting him. You continued to contact him. I will not be surprised if he gets a restrainting order if you contact him again. For your sake, I hope he doesn't. You don't need the added stress.
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Old Mar 28, 2017, 04:45 PM
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If you continue to stop by his office, call or write in any form I would not be surprised if you end up in a long term institution situation. For your sake I hope you can stop playing this dangerous game.
What did you expect when you called your T back to report suicidal stuff, more game playing. You will lose your freedom if you continue on this path.
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Old Mar 28, 2017, 04:54 PM
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Hope, you have to find a way to ask for help appropriately, to use your current therapist effectively, during scheduled sessions that you attend regularly. You seem to be creating crisis after crisis for yourself by missing appointments, cancelling or threatening to cancel appointments, calling therapists and pdocs who are not your current treatment providers, pushing email boundaries, etc. These are the behaviors that created the poor ending with your old therapist, and you seem to be headed that same direction with your new T. Since the police did not take you into the ER, it appears your suicidal threat was deemed not serious? Was that a way for you to try to get attention from your new T? (I'm assuming the receptionist you talked to was your new T's receptionist, not your old T's?) If so, what would be a more appropriate way to have your needs met that doesn't escalate to the point of crisis? If you are in danger, you need to take yourself to the ER.
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Old Mar 28, 2017, 04:55 PM
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You have your therapy appointment tomorrow, IIRC, so I hope your new T will be able to help you understand why you're having so much trouble respecting your ex-T's request that you stop contacting him. This is not a good road to go down, and you know that. If he gets a restraining order and you violate it, you may get arrested. Talk this all over with your new T, hopefully he will have ideas about how to cope when you get this urge.
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Old Mar 28, 2017, 05:44 PM
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I stopped by his office on the way home to ask him for an appointment and then when I got home, I told him that I still wanted him as a psychiatrist so when he said that i would never be his patient again, I asked him if everything he ever told me was a lie. Then I said that he wouldn't care if I died. That's when I got that email. Then I started thinking about suicide.
I think you tend to overreact, which leads you to create images in your head about extreme scenarios that have a 0.000001% chance of happening.

While I can't make you stop thinking about the worst possible scenarios, I do believe you have the power to think about realistic and best-possible scenarios.

Maybe it would help you to write down your feelings about your previous psychiatrist and share that letter with your current therapist. Say exactly why you think he lied to you and say exactly why he wouldn't care if you died. Also say exactly how he hurt you. Then write down how he has helped you, because I'm willing to bet he has helped you at least once. I mean, you did say you wanted to be his client again, so I can imagine there was something about him that you really liked.

When I wrote a letter to my therapist last Tuesday, I wrote some stuff about past situations and how I thought people reacted to me. When I started writing this all down, I realized that some of my logic didn't make much sense. My logic was too influenced by emotion and not by hard facts. Maybe that's not the case for you, but I think writing things down will help you logic your way through this.
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Old Mar 28, 2017, 05:47 PM
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Have you discussed your former pdoc with your new T?
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Old Mar 28, 2017, 05:58 PM
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I'm sorry this is happening to you, Hope. I know you are doing the best that you can. Have you and new t come up with any plan ideas to stop yourself from contacting your old t? Have you looked into other ways to help you cope during the week, such as support groups, meditation groups, yoga, or anything?

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Old Mar 28, 2017, 06:23 PM
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Your ex therapist has been very patient with you. I'm sure you knew this was coming. You continue to come here asking for advice, but you never follow it. You just continue to harass your former therapist's office despite the warnings he's given you, and the possible scenarios we have given you here. If you are not talking to your current therapist about your obsession with your former therapist, you need to be. We just don't want to see you get triggered, or hurt anymore than you have. You need to leave this guy alone! It's going to cause nothing but TROUBLE! Please seek help with this with your current therapist before he really does get a restraining order. I'm sure the thought of that would crush you, and you have people depending on you.
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Old Mar 28, 2017, 07:55 PM
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I thought we weren't supposed to judge each other here?
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Old Mar 28, 2017, 08:26 PM
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I thought we weren't supposed to judge each other here?
Frankly, I thought about reporting this thread. It's like some sort of gang-scolding.

Is there a thread which gives a quick summary of what happened with the psychiatrist? I'm curious what has provoked this situation. People don't typically act like this for no reason. Severed attachment relationships can launch people into total chaos.
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Old Mar 28, 2017, 08:50 PM
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Frankly, I thought about reporting this thread. It's like some sort of gang-scolding.

Is there a thread which gives a quick summary of what happened with the psychiatrist? I'm curious what has provoked this situation. People don't typically act like this for no reason. Severed attachment relationships can launch people into total chaos.
Her former pdoc got way too close with her and then became very resentful and was basically abusive via texts, etc
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Old Mar 28, 2017, 08:56 PM
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Her old t also got strangely religious on her and overly committed to never leaving so I remember. He sounds off kilter.

For OPs sake I hope she can avoid a restraining order. He did not sound like a kind man deserving of any devotion.
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Old Mar 28, 2017, 09:02 PM
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No one disputes that her old pdoc was rather horrible. He had poor boundaries and created a situation that fostered too much dependence. When it got to be too much, he tried to pull back and finally incorporate boundaries, but by that time the damage was done. I don't think anyone disputes that. He was/is rather horrible.

However, he has repeatedly requested both verbally and in writing, no more contact because there just is no end to it. Hope has repeatedly refused to adhere to that request, and has put herself now in a situation where legal proceeding may be filed against her because she continues to contact him, show up unannounced, etc. She has discussed all of this previously on other threads with great detail and the wide consensus has been that despite how much we all agree with how horrible this old pdoc was, he is perfectly within his legal rights at this point and has made it very clear that no more contact will be tolerated. We all saw the writing on the wall that further contact was probably going to result in a restraining order: her violations of contact have been that persistent and blatant. And out of concern, many have tried to help her find ways in other threads to deal with her anxieties in ways that won't leave her liable to legal interventions. To some who may not be as familiar with all the background, what is being read here may seem wholly judgmental, but it is probably more out of concern that Hope, who is responsible for two other disabled siblings, may now be putting herself in danger of legal repercussions. This is a serious situation, and sitting back and simply saying her actions are okay just doesn't make much sense nor does it really seem supportive. This is a potentially dangerous situation for her and we hope she can see her way to actions that are more in line with her own safety and that of her dependents.
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Old Mar 29, 2017, 02:51 AM
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Sorry folks, this thread has turned into an argument over how and how not to support the OP, and that's not very supportive. I'm going to close the thread while we discuss what, if anything, could be done to get it back on track
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