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Old Aug 26, 2017, 06:46 AM
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This has happened on a number of occasions. She lets me text her, and if I cancel an appointment, she wants to talk to know how I am.
Sometimes when we talk she's said how I mustn't do certain things otherwise she "wouldn't be able to sleep at night". Other times when we talk about my family, she has said how my family did something to "us" (instead of saying "to you" that is me) and then she corrected herself and said "to you". It just made me feel like she was on my side against all the problems I'm facing. I liked that.
And last time when we talked a bit about the therapy, she said that she valued our relationship and that it gives her joy to talk to me.

I don't really have many besides her to show concern, and some kind of affection, towards me. So it has been some nice reminders of how it is to actually feel wanted by someone.

Do any of you feel a bit of the same?
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Old Aug 26, 2017, 06:51 AM
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This has happened on a number of occasions. She lets me text her, and if I cancel an appointment, she wants to talk to know how I am.
Sometimes when we talk she's said how I mustn't do certain things otherwise she "wouldn't be able to sleep at night". Other times when we talk about my family, she has said how my family did something to "us" (instead of saying "to you" that is me) and then she corrected herself and said "to you". It just made me feel like she was on my side against all the problems I'm facing. I liked that.
And last time when we talked a bit about the therapy, she said that she valued our relationship and that it gives her joy to talk to me.

I don't really have many besides her to show concern, and some kind of affection, towards me. So it has been some nice reminders of how it is to actually feel wanted by someone.

Do any of you feel a bit of the same?
Maybe your T has some countertransference?
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Old Aug 26, 2017, 07:18 AM
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Maybe your T has some countertransference?

It might have come across like that in how I described it. But no, I don't think it's the case.
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Old Aug 26, 2017, 07:22 AM
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My t always acts like hes very glad to see whoever his next patient is.

We have talked about how, when i would visit my mother, the pit bull dog next door would be more pleased to see me than she ever was.

So i think he does it to replace that message, from generally not welcome in the world, to welcome to the world!
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Old Aug 26, 2017, 07:32 AM
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My t always acts like hes very glad to see whoever his next patient is.


We have talked about how, when i would visit my mother, the pit bull dog next door would be more pleased to see me than she ever was.


So i think he does it to replace that message, from generally not welcome in the world, to welcome to the world!


He sounds nice.

My mom's dog was more excited to see me too. And I think I was more excited to see the dog also.
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Old Aug 26, 2017, 07:42 AM
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Knowing that my therapist is completely on my side and always able to see things from my perspective has been one of the most healing things about therapy for me. I'm so glad you're experiencing that too.
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Old Aug 26, 2017, 09:23 AM
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I never had the feeling that the important people in my life didn't care enough about me or didn't show interest/concern (more the opposite), but definitely felt similar from my last therapist, pretty consistently. I think it's part of their job to show interest, concern, to relate to clients, and I do believe that for some it is genuine caring, that they are truly interested in their work... maybe not in all clients equally, but in some definitely. And it's also part of their job to show concern even if their mind is somewhere else in the moment. IMO, therapists that fail to behave that way are probably rather self-absorbed and not very good Ts overall.
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My t has expressed anger at things that have happened in my life. It's validating knowing that someone sees things from your perspective and is angry on your behalf. I believe he's being genuine too and not just saying it to be saying it.
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Old Aug 26, 2017, 08:42 PM
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I do not feel that way about the therapist. I don't think she has any concern for me and I would not like it if she did.

But I do not think it is unusual if one does.
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Old Aug 27, 2017, 12:02 AM
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This is really sweet! I'm just a couple of months into seeing my amazingly kind, empathic therapist, but it still messes with my head sometimes, this unconditional positive regard.

My therapist and I both read a lot and we trade book recommendations constantly. We've both been reading some of Alice Miller's works, a psychotherapist. This quote from "Free from Lies" really embodies good therapy to me, or at least in my situation with trauma: "[The therapist] is a partial one, someone who sided unequivocally with the tormented child and displayed indignation at the wrongs done to that child before the client is capable of doing so. "
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Old Aug 27, 2017, 12:05 AM
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I guess I'm the opposite. When my ex-t referred to her and I as an "us," it made me extremely uncomfortable...but our boundaries were blurred a bit.
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I think all of that sounds lovely with the exception of "us." That would have upset me.

But yes, my therapist at times demonstrates that he cares or shows concern. It feels nice because I don't feel concern or caring from other people in my life. Well, I guess I should say that I haven't felt that in the past. I'm actually in a season in my life right now where I feel very loved and cared for, which is a nice change of pace.

Here are some of the ways the therapist has done this for me:

He's been largely consistent. He does most of the things he says he'll do.
He's expressed anger and hurt on my behalf for things that have happened to me when I couldn't.
In retrospect, I'm very moved by his recent frustrations with me. Because it demonstrates a genuine desire in him for me to continue to heal.
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Old Aug 27, 2017, 05:58 PM
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I guess I'm the opposite. When my ex-t referred to her and I as an "us," it made me extremely uncomfortable...but our boundaries were blurred a bit.
Interesting. Both of my Ts referred to us as "us" many times and I personally liked it - it gave me a sense of collaboration. I do the same often with my own work colleagues now, learned it from the Ts. But only in a professional context.

Well, when the T that I had some nasty conflicts and shaky boundaries with used this expression, it evoked some negative emotions, but what I hear in it is still primarily the fact that it's something that we created together. It bothers me much more if they refer to the ambiguous or negative message using "you, you and you" in it - that gives me a sense that they are not taking responsibility for their own part.
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Interesting. Both of my Ts referred to us as "us" many times and I personally liked it - it gave me a sense of collaboration. I do the same often with my own work colleagues now, learned it from the Ts. But only in a professional context.

Well, when the T that I had some nasty conflicts and shaky boundaries with used this expression, it evoked some negative emotions, but what I hear in it is still primarily the fact that it's something that we created together. It bothers me much more if they refer to the ambiguous or negative message using "you, you and you" in it - that gives me a sense that they are not taking responsibility for their own part.
I think because of my attachment issues, the fact that ex-t and I had our boundaries blurred, etc. and she had already said we'd be friends if I wasn't her client, it nearly gave me false hope.

The context in which that conversation went down was:

Me: I can't tell my mom that I'm attached to you. She wouldn't be happy knowing that I feel an emotional connection to my therapist. I think she'd get jealous that I feel close to you.

Ex-t: Oh, you can't tell her about us? Can you tell anyone about us?


"Us" in this sense made me queasy. I knew my feelings couldn't be reciprocated and didn't want false hope. I would have preferred her making the distinction that I did, "You can't tell your mother that you feel close to me as your therapist?" She was well aware of my issues and that I need that boundary, but they were so dang blurred by that point...when we hit a rupture, she took the friendly commentary back and became much more clinical.

Ex-t: I'm not your friend. That isn't our relationship. You didn't meet the version of me that you'd meet at a restaurant. But just the session before our rupture, we were getting along so friendly...

Ex-t: It's like your my little walking savings account.
Me: What?
Ex-t: Yeah, I never know when you're going to text me and tell me that a claim came through and to run your CC for $250 or $375, so it's a nice surprise.
Me: I'm your walking savings account?
Ex-t: Yeah!
Me: You a-shole! (laughing)
Ex-t: I think I like you calling me that. (laughing)


So, it was okay when she and I were getting along, but voice an opinion and she pulled out those boundaries- which she herself made fuzzy- hardcore. I felt confused.
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Old Aug 27, 2017, 06:35 PM
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I think because of my attachment issues, the fact that ex-t and I had our boundaries blurred, etc. and she had already said we'd be friends if I wasn't her client, it nearly gave me false hope.

The context in which that conversation went down was:

Me: I can't tell my mom that I'm attached to you. She wouldn't be happy knowing that I feel an emotional connection to my therapist. I think she'd get jealous that I feel close to you.

Ex-t: Oh, you can't tell her about us? Can you tell anyone about us?


"Us" in this sense made me queasy. I knew my feelings couldn't be reciprocated and didn't want false hope. I would have preferred her making the distinction that I did, "You can't tell your mother that you feel close to me as your therapist?" She was well aware of my issues and that I need that boundary, but they were so dang blurred by that point...when we hit a rupture, she took the friendly commentary back and became much more clinical.

Her: I'm not your friend. That isn't our relationship. You didn't meet the version of me that you'd meet at a restaurant.

So, it was okay when she and I were getting along, but voice an opinion and she pulled out those boundaries- which she herself made fuzzy- hardcore. I felt confused.
I see. Well, these would have made me cringe as well...
"Ex-t: Oh, you can't tell her about us? Can you tell anyone about us?" - I think the reference is rather inappropriate this way, it does have a sense of crossing a line. I don't think one needs attachment issues to feel that way, the "us" in this context almost sounds like some kind of dirty secret.
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Old Aug 27, 2017, 06:37 PM
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I see. Well, these would have made me cringe as well...
"Ex-t: Oh, you can't tell her about us? Can you tell anyone about us?" - I think the reference is rather inappropriate this way, it does have a sense of crossing a line. I don't think one needs attachment issues to feel that way, the "us" in this context almost sounds like some kind of dirty secret.
Thank you!! I didn't like it. I'm gay, so it made it even more confusing. For some reason, I knew it made my stomach turn, but when I told other people about it and they in turn were upset and said it wasn't appropriate, I defended her.

They would all reply, "How would it sound if a man told a woman that? A woman who was struggling with her feelings for this man?"
Then I'd agree...it was confusing.
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