Home Menu

Menu


Closed Thread
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #726  
Old May 11, 2020, 05:36 PM
NP_Complete's Avatar
NP_Complete NP_Complete is offline
Grand Magnate
 
Member Since: Feb 2017
Location: the upside down
Posts: 3,977
Quote:
Originally Posted by stopdog View Post
I don't think lecturing anyone helps. I know for me, it just ticks me off but really doesn't change what I do.
Yes, I'm aware which is why I didn't do it. I know she'll do whatever she wants to anyway. I also think it was incredibly stupid for her to go get a haircut right now.
Hugs from:
SlumberKitty
Thanks for this!
susannahsays

advertisement
  #727  
Old May 11, 2020, 05:50 PM
susannahsays's Avatar
susannahsays susannahsays is offline
Grand Magnate
 
Member Since: Jun 2018
Location: Somewhere
Posts: 3,356
Quote:
Originally Posted by ArtieTheSequal View Post
what i mean by that is, our politicians here in the US are not working together like they should be, that's all. I don't 'do' politics so that's all i really can say.
Don't get me wrong, I hate politics. It's all so dramatic, fake, sensationalized, petty, distorted, etc. However, it's important to "do" politics to the extent that you at least attempt to vote people into office who will advance the interests of the people (not just economically privileged people, not just men, not just white people, not just corporations, etc.). Another saying I've seen on bumper stickers is "If you don't vote, don't complain."
__________________
Life is hard. Then you die. Then they throw dirt in your face.
-David Gerrold
Thanks for this!
unaluna
  #728  
Old May 11, 2020, 08:10 PM
unaluna's Avatar
unaluna unaluna is online now
Elder Harridan x-hankster
 
Member Since: Jun 2011
Location: Milan/Michigan
Posts: 42,324
Quote:
Originally Posted by susannahsays View Post
What is that saying? The personal is political?
Yes. From the womens lib movement in the 60s. Birth control, women getting fired for getting pregnant, racial stuff, lgbtqia, stuff like that - the personal is political.
Thanks for this!
LonesomeTonight, SlumberKitty, susannahsays
  #729  
Old May 12, 2020, 01:12 AM
SheHulk07's Avatar
SheHulk07 SheHulk07 is offline
Magnate
 
Member Since: Oct 2013
Location: CO
Posts: 2,305
I found where my old pdoc that I really liked works at now, but from the website, it doesn't look like they accept my insurance. Really a bummer since I haven't had a constant pdoc since he left the practice.
Hugs from:
chihirochild, LonesomeTonight, SlumberKitty
  #730  
Old May 12, 2020, 05:47 AM
LonesomeTonight's Avatar
LonesomeTonight LonesomeTonight is offline
Always in This Twilight
 
Member Since: Feb 2015
Location: US
Posts: 22,105
Quote:
Originally Posted by NP_Complete View Post
My 78 year old mother went and got a haircut on Friday. I was dumbfounded. This a week after she told me she was staying in as much as possible. I should have lectured her, but I didn't.

Ugh, I'm sorry. Sounds like my mother-in-law, who is 70, diabetic, and obese (and I think has mild asthma, so that's like 4 risk factors) and keeps insisting on going out to stores to get what she needs, even though H offers to get stuff for her. She says, "I just needed to get out of my apartment!" At least now I think she's been going to some of the "senior hours" at grocery stores, but I know at one point, she was in Whole Foods in the middle of a Saturday, when of course it's going to be crowded...

She's pretty close to my D, so I worry about something happening to her... At least my parents are being sensible and careful about things, at least from what they're telling me.

Hair salons are still closed by me, but I really question why people are going to those or, worse, nail salons in places where they're open. I mean, my hair is a bit shaggy now, but I'll wait (or trim it myself--which I may be doing with H's hair soon). It's that you can't socially distance when getting a haircut or manicure.
Hugs from:
ElectricManatee, SlumberKitty
Thanks for this!
NP_Complete
  #731  
Old May 12, 2020, 05:48 AM
LonesomeTonight's Avatar
LonesomeTonight LonesomeTonight is offline
Always in This Twilight
 
Member Since: Feb 2015
Location: US
Posts: 22,105
Did you end up seeing your T yesterday, after the emails, NP? How did it go?
Thanks for this!
SlumberKitty
  #732  
Old May 12, 2020, 05:50 AM
chihirochild's Avatar
chihirochild chihirochild is offline
Magnate
 
Member Since: Feb 2017
Location: North America
Posts: 2,361
Early morning walk

Couch 214: The chihiro couch
Hugs from:
SlumberKitty
Thanks for this!
ElectricManatee, LonesomeTonight, SheHulk07, SlumberKitty, StressedMess
  #733  
Old May 12, 2020, 08:56 AM
atisketatasket's Avatar
atisketatasket atisketatasket is offline
Child of a lesser god
 
Member Since: Jun 2015
Location: Tartarus
Posts: 19,394
I’ve got a hair appointment May 26. I definitely think with the regulations they have to follow here (limited customers, temp checks, masks for all, gloves for the stylist, clean every station after every use), plus given what we’re learning about transmission of this virus, it’s safer than a bar or a mall or a plane or dining in at a restaurant right now—and people are packing those where they’re open.

Is it completely safe? Nope. Neither is the grocery store. But until there is a vaccine or a treatment, our public lives for the next few years are going to be a series of calculated risks because nothing will be completely safe. I’m not comfortable getting takeout however protected, others are; I’m comfortable going to a hair salon I trust with protection, others aren’t.
Hugs from:
SlumberKitty, unaluna
Thanks for this!
LonesomeTonight
  #734  
Old May 12, 2020, 09:07 AM
stopdog stopdog is offline
underdog is here
 
Member Since: Sep 2011
Location: blank
Posts: 35,154
I find some of the steps they are implementing to be ridiculous. Temperature taking is not an effective way of determining if someone has the virus or not. I think it is important not to erode privacy rights just because of panic. I am fine with distancing as such but some of the stuff is mere window dressing with no benefit. I am pretty much willing to do most everything except get on a plane - and I hated air travel before the virus stuff hit.
Life is not safe. I think the fragile illusion of safety is coming to the forefront. I don't want anything to happen to my elderly parent -but something will at some point happen to us all. I would rather it be because we were living rather than in a huddled ball of fear.
Knee jerk responses that lead to the erosion of rights frightens me more than the idea of catching this virus does.
__________________
Please NO @

Selfishness is not living as one wishes to live, it is asking others to live as one wishes to live.
Oscar Wilde
Well Behaved Women Seldom Make History - Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.

Last edited by stopdog; May 12, 2020 at 09:20 AM.
Thanks for this!
atisketatasket, unaluna
  #735  
Old May 12, 2020, 09:19 AM
atisketatasket's Avatar
atisketatasket atisketatasket is offline
Child of a lesser god
 
Member Since: Jun 2015
Location: Tartarus
Posts: 19,394
Agreed on the temp checks. Many people don’t have a fever, apparently, even if they’re otherwise symptomatic.
Thanks for this!
LonesomeTonight, SlumberKitty
  #736  
Old May 12, 2020, 09:28 AM
LonesomeTonight's Avatar
LonesomeTonight LonesomeTonight is offline
Always in This Twilight
 
Member Since: Feb 2015
Location: US
Posts: 22,105
I agree that temperature taking isn't useful, especially with asymptomatic people who can transmit it. It seems like a way for a place to *look* like they're being safe without really doing so.


It is sort of fascinating to me how different people feel different activities are safer. Like, I wouldn't feel comfortable getting a haircut right now, but I'm totally fine with getting takeout, as the majority of places we get it from now do curbside and put it right in the trunk. We pay online. We do sometimes have to sign credit card receipt, but take our own pen. And the servers are always wearing masks and gloves. Once it's in the house, I'll open the container, wash my hands well, then transfer the food to a plate.

I'm just curious to see what will happen when restaurants open up more in my area (which they're talking about possibly doing soon, with limited seating capacity, maybe dividers between seats, and/or only outdoor areas open with limited capacity). How many people will actually go? And will places keep offering takeout and delivery? I know I wouldn't go out someplace right away, would want to see how things go in the few weeks after they reopen (like is there a surge?) and would try to go at an off time when there would be fewer people anyway, like 3 pm on a weekday or something.
Hugs from:
SlumberKitty
Thanks for this!
atisketatasket
  #737  
Old May 12, 2020, 09:30 AM
SlumberKitty's Avatar
SlumberKitty SlumberKitty is offline
Legendary Wise Elder
 
Member Since: Jul 2018
Location: CA
Posts: 27,329
I'm anxious today. I don't know why particularly. It might be because Pastor T and I decided to go to every other week sessions. I'm okay with that, and actually happy with that, but it may have caused the increase in anxiety, even though this is the outcome I wanted! Less contact! Plus he said if I get triggered or something is too much I can text him and we can set up an earlier appointment. He said his schedule isn't so packed right now that he cannot afford to be flexible. He was very precious and said that he wasn't trying to abandon me or dump me--which I wasn't even thinking. But we have been working on my goals and besides the one I am really working on there's not a lot more that I feel I need to discuss with him. So taking a step back seems like a good step to me. I could be anxious about something completely unrelated because I do have general anxiety disorder but I can't really think of anything. Then again I woke up anxious. It was one of those days where I felt the need to check on everyone to make sure they were okay. Luckily my Dad got up before I left for work and I got to talk to him and I know he is okay. HUGS to anyone who wants one, Kit
__________________
Dum Spiro Spero
IC XC NIKA
Hugs from:
atisketatasket, LonesomeTonight
  #738  
Old May 12, 2020, 09:42 AM
atisketatasket's Avatar
atisketatasket atisketatasket is offline
Child of a lesser god
 
Member Since: Jun 2015
Location: Tartarus
Posts: 19,394
Does anyone know if Goodwill is taking donations during this? I know their stores were considered "essential" in my state.

To add to pandemic annoyances, I have to go in to my office tomorrow (I haven't been since March 5). Phase I of my building's renovations is almost done and Phase II has everyone with offices in my wing moving to the renovated wing so they can redo our wing. So we have to go in and get any personal items--professional movers will do the rest. I have a carpet that's mine in there, and no use for it at home, hence Goodwill.

We have to wear a mask and gloves at all times in the building. Not looking forward to that, as 15 minutes in the store with a mask on is already tough (end up feeling like I can't breathe), and I'm only allowed in the building for 3 hours to pack and will need most of it.

ETA: LT, the takeout problem for me isn't the delivery--it's who's preparing the food and are they healthy and is their kitchen clean.
Thanks for this!
LonesomeTonight, SlumberKitty
  #739  
Old May 12, 2020, 09:58 AM
LonesomeTonight's Avatar
LonesomeTonight LonesomeTonight is offline
Always in This Twilight
 
Member Since: Feb 2015
Location: US
Posts: 22,105
Good question about Goodwill. I had just assumed they weren't taking donations, but maybe?


As for takeout, I've read that they don't think it could be transmitted via eating food, hence my main concerns about the containers and such, like not wanting to touch the container, then my face. As a germophobe with contamination fears, I already worry some about foodborne illnesses in restauarants and carryout, so some of that is already on my radar. Like haven't been to Chipotle in a few years despite liking their food because they had a few big foodborne illness outbreaks in a row.
Hugs from:
SlumberKitty
  #740  
Old May 12, 2020, 11:05 AM
NP_Complete's Avatar
NP_Complete NP_Complete is offline
Grand Magnate
 
Member Since: Feb 2017
Location: the upside down
Posts: 3,977
My calculated risk is going to therapy sessions. That's more important to me than a haircut at the moment even though it's looking pretty shaggy. Also, I don't think I can wear a mask for the length of time required. I feel anxious and like I'm suffocating. Unfortunately, I consciously realized that what I think is behind this is a specific instance of abuse that happened, so now not only do I physically hate it, I also am reminded of that event.

They laid off another person on my team this week. I'm feeling anxious now. I had wanted to talk to my manager about possibly taking some PTO for mental health reasons. My therapist said he'd help me figure out how to approach that conversation, but I'm worried that would turn into a good reason to lay me off next. I feel stuck. I'm having serious difficulties getting actual work accomplished and now I'm scared to ask for what I need to help with that problem.
Hugs from:
chihirochild, ElectricManatee, LonesomeTonight, SheHulk07, SlumberKitty
  #741  
Old May 12, 2020, 11:05 AM
unaluna's Avatar
unaluna unaluna is online now
Elder Harridan x-hankster
 
Member Since: Jun 2011
Location: Milan/Michigan
Posts: 42,324
Re goodwill - check your local goodwills online site.
Thanks for this!
atisketatasket
  #742  
Old May 12, 2020, 11:07 AM
unaluna's Avatar
unaluna unaluna is online now
Elder Harridan x-hankster
 
Member Since: Jun 2011
Location: Milan/Michigan
Posts: 42,324
Quote:
Originally Posted by chihirochild View Post
Early morning walk

Couch 214: The chihiro couch
That is steep! You must have quads of steel!
Thanks for this!
atisketatasket, chihirochild, LonesomeTonight
  #743  
Old May 12, 2020, 11:19 AM
NP_Complete's Avatar
NP_Complete NP_Complete is offline
Grand Magnate
 
Member Since: Feb 2017
Location: the upside down
Posts: 3,977
Quote:
Originally Posted by LonesomeTonight View Post
Did you end up seeing your T yesterday, after the emails, NP? How did it go?
I emailed him Sunday evening about meeting on Zoom and why. He replied later that night that he trusted me to know what I needed. When I woke up Monday I saw that email. I decided I was going to drive down to his building and do the meeting from my car because I felt like I needed some proximity or possibly ask him if I could still come in person if he was there, depending on how I felt. He emailed me about 2 hours before session saying that he was going to be in his office, that he had no intention to shame or scold me in case I changed my mind. I felt like he was giving me a way to change my mind without saying that he wished I would come in person and I appreciated that. I decided to go. It was a little uncomfortable, but everything is good between us. I don't think he understood exactly why I got upset on Friday, but that's okay. The only problem now is that every relational interaction with other people is apparently going to be viewed through the lens of me misunderstanding where the other person is coming from or me reading something into the conversation that isn't there. I don't like that. I feel like he doesn't trust my side of things now.
Hugs from:
LonesomeTonight, SheHulk07, SlumberKitty, unaluna
  #744  
Old May 12, 2020, 11:26 AM
unaluna's Avatar
unaluna unaluna is online now
Elder Harridan x-hankster
 
Member Since: Jun 2011
Location: Milan/Michigan
Posts: 42,324
Quote:
Originally Posted by atisketatasket View Post
Agreed on the temp checks. Many people don’t have a fever, apparently, even if they’re otherwise symptomatic.
Temp checks seem like they belong to the beginning of the outbreak, when people didnt even know they had it or were getting it.
Thanks for this!
atisketatasket, SlumberKitty
  #745  
Old May 12, 2020, 11:46 AM
LonesomeTonight's Avatar
LonesomeTonight LonesomeTonight is offline
Always in This Twilight
 
Member Since: Feb 2015
Location: US
Posts: 22,105
Quote:
Originally Posted by NP_Complete View Post
I emailed him Sunday evening about meeting on Zoom and why. He replied later that night that he trusted me to know what I needed. When I woke up Monday I saw that email. I decided I was going to drive down to his building and do the meeting from my car because I felt like I needed some proximity or possibly ask him if I could still come in person if he was there, depending on how I felt. He emailed me about 2 hours before session saying that he was going to be in his office, that he had no intention to shame or scold me in case I changed my mind. I felt like he was giving me a way to change my mind without saying that he wished I would come in person and I appreciated that. I decided to go. It was a little uncomfortable, but everything is good between us. I don't think he understood exactly why I got upset on Friday, but that's okay. The only problem now is that every relational interaction with other people is apparently going to be viewed through the lens of me misunderstanding where the other person is coming from or me reading something into the conversation that isn't there. I don't like that. I feel like he doesn't trust my side of things now.

Hugs, I'm glad he reassured you and that things seem good between you. What do you mean by his not trusting your side of things? However you react to or feel about what someone else says is valid, whatever their intention.
Hugs from:
SlumberKitty
  #746  
Old May 12, 2020, 12:05 PM
NP_Complete's Avatar
NP_Complete NP_Complete is offline
Grand Magnate
 
Member Since: Feb 2017
Location: the upside down
Posts: 3,977
Quote:
Originally Posted by LonesomeTonight View Post
Hugs, I'm glad he reassured you and that things seem good between you. What do you mean by his not trusting your side of things? However you react to or feel about what someone else says is valid, whatever their intention.
I had a Skype call with my mother over the weekend. I told her I wasn't a huge fan of Skype but she really wanted to Skype so I relented and we did. We usually just text and before Covid it was not all that often, mainly because I feel like I need some distance. Not that I've told her that, but it's a topic in therapy. At the end of our Skype, she asked me if we could do this again, I said okay and she suggested doing it every 6 months. I wasn't sure how I felt about that. On the one hand, she's not pushing me, but on the other hand, 6 months? I guess I felt a little hurt by that. When I told my therapist about this exchange, he started asking me for details about what exactly was said and exactly how it was said. I'm pretty sure he thinks that I'm reading into this that she doesn't want to talk to me and that's probably not what her intention was depending on how she said it. I don't know. It just felt like he doesn't trust my perspective on conversations now because I got triggered by what he said to me on Friday. I admit, I sometimes read too much into what people say and in a way that reinforces how I feel about myself. That's a really tough thing to fix, or at least I've had trouble with it. I just don't want to get into a pattern where we have to analyze every single conversation to figure out how I read it wrong. It's possible that sometimes I'm reading it exactly correctly. Does that make sense? Maybe I'm just being too sensitive about this. I'm going to bring it up next time we meet.
Hugs from:
chihirochild, LonesomeTonight, SlumberKitty
  #747  
Old May 12, 2020, 12:12 PM
atisketatasket's Avatar
atisketatasket atisketatasket is offline
Child of a lesser god
 
Member Since: Jun 2015
Location: Tartarus
Posts: 19,394
Quote:
Originally Posted by NP_Complete View Post
The only problem now is that every relational interaction with other people is apparently going to be viewed through the lens of me misunderstanding where the other person is coming from or me reading something into the conversation that isn't there. I don't like that. I feel like he doesn't trust my side of things now.
I don’t know about that. There are definitely people I’ve met whose accounts of conversations I wouldn’t trust because they “hear” things that aren’t there. But you show self-awareness that you know your stuff plays a role—like you even said that when you were telling us about your therapist upsetting you Friday. Presumably you show him the same self-analysis, so why wouldn’t he trust you?

The key is really not acting on something you know is your stuff, in my experience.
Thanks for this!
chihirochild, LonesomeTonight, NP_Complete, unaluna
  #748  
Old May 12, 2020, 12:49 PM
chihirochild's Avatar
chihirochild chihirochild is offline
Magnate
 
Member Since: Feb 2017
Location: North America
Posts: 2,361
I have a session at 3 and have spent all damn day anticipating it (which is saying something since I woke up at 4:30--transitioning from nights sucks). That usually means I'm setting myself up for disappointment.
Hugs from:
ElectricManatee, LonesomeTonight, LostOnTheTrail, NP_Complete, SlumberKitty
  #749  
Old May 12, 2020, 01:14 PM
LonesomeTonight's Avatar
LonesomeTonight LonesomeTonight is offline
Always in This Twilight
 
Member Since: Feb 2015
Location: US
Posts: 22,105
Quote:
Originally Posted by chihirochild View Post
I have a session at 3 and have spent all damn day anticipating it (which is saying something since I woke up at 4:30--transitioning from nights sucks). That usually means I'm setting myself up for disappointment.

Hugs, I hope it goes well and you're not disappointed. I often have that fear, too, though when I keep anticipating something.
Hugs from:
SlumberKitty
Thanks for this!
chihirochild
  #750  
Old May 12, 2020, 01:14 PM
LonesomeTonight's Avatar
LonesomeTonight LonesomeTonight is offline
Always in This Twilight
 
Member Since: Feb 2015
Location: US
Posts: 22,105
Today in amusing things misheard over video therapy: Dr. T said how something should be thrown in the "cat litter box," as in tossed away. And I thought he said, "catheter box," and I was like, "What?" (Many years ago, I worked for the Journal of Urology.)
Thanks for this!
chihirochild, SlumberKitty, unaluna
Closed Thread
Views: 43083

attentionThis is an old thread. You probably should not post your reply to it, as the original poster is unlikely to see it.




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:55 AM.
Powered by vBulletin® — Copyright © 2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.




 

My Support Forums

My Support Forums is the online community that was originally begun as the Psych Central Forums in 2001. It now runs as an independent self-help support group community for mental health, personality, and psychological issues and is overseen by a group of dedicated, caring volunteers from around the world.

 

Helplines and Lifelines

The material on this site is for informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis or treatment provided by a qualified health care provider.

Always consult your doctor or mental health professional before trying anything you read here.