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Old May 15, 2009, 09:39 PM
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Can you post some sometime if it's not too private/too much trouble?
This is the one I sent to my T this week. It's kind of embarrassing for me to look at now. I don't like to think of being that needy. But my little ego state was really flipping out that night and I'm glad my T responded. This one.. kind of sucks too because I drew it with my laptop's touch pad using the GIMP freeware. I think I am going to start saving for one of those digital drawing pads. Simcha, I have a few others in my photo album I think it is viewable to people.



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Old May 15, 2009, 10:37 PM
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(((((((((Chaotic)))))))))))

Wow, this is awesome! Your super expressive. And... good. For serious.

I don't see anything "needy" in your picture, just normal human responses to unhealthy human circumstances. What's inappropriate is what you had to experience, not how you felt/feel about it. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise (including that inner negative voice).

I didn't like to admit to my T that I wasn't handling things very well in times past either. I'm a lot better at being open now (with him, and to some degree with others). I'm still kinda scared to draw disturbing things for my T, and I don't know why. Maybe I see art as being more expressive than words in some ways. Asides, it's kinda hard to explain when you feel like this: But... I think I'll give it a try.

I'm not familiar with GIMP freeware, but I've heard of it. I haven't even used MS Paint in a long time. Maybe I'll stick to pad and paper.

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This is the one I sent to my T this week. It's kind of embarrassing for me to look at now. I don't like to think of being that needy. But my little ego state was really flipping out that night and I'm glad my T responded. This one.. kind of sucks too because I drew it with my laptop's touch pad using the GIMP freeware. I think I am going to start saving for one of those digital drawing pads. Simcha, I have a few others in my photo album I think it is viewable to people.



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Old May 16, 2009, 06:18 AM
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I didn't like to admit to my T that I wasn't handling things very well in times past either.
HATE IT

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I'm still kinda scared to draw disturbing things for my T, and I don't know why. Maybe I see art as being more expressive than words in some ways.
Yes, I am able to communicate a lot more visually than I can verbally. This often worries me A LOT. Especially since my T actually looks at I. I remember the first drawing I shared. It was right at the end of the session. My T is very good at hiding her shock and surpise reactions, but clearly she didn't expect that drawing.

As for disturbing images... This week was the first time I put violence on paper. Mostly I draw my confusion. I'm not sure if the violent one will get shared.
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Old May 16, 2009, 08:10 AM
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Chaotic13 thankyou for sharing your drawing - it touched my heart you are very talented and your comment about T not having to touch you to touch you - that was beautiful you constantly amaze me with your insight
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Old May 16, 2009, 11:20 AM
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Chaotic, I enjoyed seeing your drawing!! Wonderful!
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Old May 16, 2009, 11:52 AM
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Chaotic, thank you for sharing your wonderful, expressive drawing. I am sure they must help you a lot to draw and help communicate a lot to your T, when you choose to share. Can you say anything about the bird in the corner?
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I'm still kinda scared to draw disturbing things for my T, and I don't know why. Maybe I see art as being more expressive than words in some ways.
For me, my art would be poetry or other writings, and I have shared a poem once with T and it was so expressive and communicative, that it was worth a half dozen sessions of talk. I also have some disturbing poems that, in a way, I would like to share with T. But they communicate disturbing things I have not shared with him, so that would be hard (ummm, sunny, where did this stuff come from?). Plus, then he might want to talk about that stuff! I don't want him to be disturbed or think I am disturbed. We all have disturbing thoughts, don't we? And somehow art is an easier way for them to come out than talk. I also worry that if I shared a poem with T (even though I did it once before), he would minimize it and say let's do some real therapy, not read your poems. Lots of anxiety around sharing poems!

Chaotic, when you share drawings with your T, do you then talk about them?
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Old May 16, 2009, 02:17 PM
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Thanks every one for your comments. My T... And sometimes here are the only places I share these. Dealing with H's response when he found a few, confirmed for me that these thoughts and feeling should be kept private. Drawing has helped me a lot. The bird in the picture is a dove and it represent my T. I have trouble expressing stuff.

Sunrise, often my T am I discuss my drawings. How much gets discussed usually depends on me. This one was sent when I was feeling really freaked out. I will likely move away from discussing it and focus on ones that don't have T in them.I just feel weird when I realize I acted needy.

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Old May 16, 2009, 06:17 PM
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For me, my art would be poetry or other writings, and I have shared a poem once with T and it was so expressive and communicative, that it was worth a half dozen sessions of talk. I also have some disturbing poems that, in a way, I would like to share with T. But they communicate disturbing things I have not shared with him, so that would be hard (ummm, sunny, where did this stuff come from?).

Plus, then he might want to talk about that stuff! I don't want him to be disturbed or think I am disturbed. We all have disturbing thoughts, don't we? And somehow art is an easier way for them to come out than talk. I also worry that if I shared a poem with T (even though I did it once before), he would minimize it and say let's do some real therapy, not read your poems. Lots of anxiety around sharing poems!

Chaotic, when you share drawings with your T, do you then talk about them?
Uhh, yeah... I'm afraid of scaring other people. I did that when I was a kid and they made me see the school counselor and talk about how "screwed up" I allegedly was or whatever. But, some things you can express on paper better than you would in words. I think my T would understand and wouldn't take it out of context like the teachers did when I was a kid too.

I'm NOT a poet though. I don't know HOW you poet people DO THAT!
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Old May 16, 2009, 06:19 PM
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Thanks every one for your comments. My T... And sometimes here are the only places I share these. Dealing with H's response when he found a few, confirmed for me that these thoughts and feeling should be kept private. Drawing has helped me a lot. The bird in the picture is a dove and it represent my T. I have trouble expressing stuff.

Sunrise, often my T am I discuss my drawings. How much gets discussed usually depends on me. This one was sent when I was feeling really freaked out. I will likely move away from discussing it and focus on ones that don't have T in them.I just feel weird when I realize I acted needy.
Haha...I had to giggle because when you said that you have "trouble expressing stuff" I immediately refer to the ADHD---which makes it difficult to communicate at times.
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Old May 17, 2009, 02:42 AM
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It is probably just my puter but I can't see any pictures. I really would like to see your art.....
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Old May 17, 2009, 06:42 AM
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I think my T would understand and wouldn't take it out of context like the teachers did when I was a kid too.
Simcha, my T reacted to that first drawing I showed her. Shock, was what it looked like. But it was negative. I was surprised but inside really glad that she encouraged me to continue to draw and bring in the drawings. It really broke my communication barrier. I don't know if all T learn art therapy, but my T seems to accept and run with anything I give her.
Thanks for this!
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Old May 17, 2009, 06:43 PM
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BACK TO TOUCH OF COURSE :-)

Check this out it is another name for techniques that use touch to help heal and reconnect our parts.

Heart Centered Therapy

http://www.massagetoday.com/mpacms/m...e.php?id=10581
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