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After analyzing alot of my posts and responses.. one idea I had is that maybe I'm just not talking to the right 'type' for me. So its leading to disappointment and resentment towards women in general.
Can you help me determine what is my type and where to meet her? Also what types would I be best avoiding and what dating scenes to avoid? Where would be good first date ideas for the 'type' I should be dating? About me: I'm 31, quiet, scrawny, don't play sports, dont fit in at the gym, never drink beer with the guys or have guy friends, love food and to cook, studied liberal arts, not really a churchgoer or very religious but was raised catholic, am peaceful, love pets, politics, and am extremely affectionate and love to cuddle and snuggle with the girl I will date. I like the idea of living together in the very near future and coming home to each other. Not necessarily for children right away but eventually.. Im more interested in just being together. I come from blue-collar parents who worked. And lastly.. I mostly like rock music and old films from the 80s. Im cute in a justin bieber sort of way rather than a richard gere sort of guy. So why am I still single? Please help ![]() 10 years of trying dating sites, bars, clubs, and everything else has not worked. |
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Hi Anthony. What kind of girls do you usually find yourself attractive to and then ultimately disappointed by?
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oh I've met them everwhere from the laundromat to the bookstore.
Here are some stats I've compiled out of a sampling of 100 girls I approached: 50% are approachable but say they have a BF 25% are not not approachable(they're busy with customers, co-workers) 25% are approachable and actually give you their number or take yours.. - of these, 50% will "flake out" before the first date 50% will agree to a first date but not necessarily a 2nd one. So that leaves you with 12 prospects left out of 100!!! Of these 12, the majority are too young, too old, not interested in a BF right now, just broke up with a BF so they're angry at men, or they honestly have no time cuz they work 2 jobs and school. So what does that leave me with? Maybe 1 or 2 potentials?? Not good odds ![]() |
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Nah. I questioned that already. I honestly don't even like it when a male barber touches me I only go to the female ones. Nor do I like the smell of guy sweat.. ewwww. I'm 100% girl crazy that I am positive.
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I would strongly suggest NOT DATING. You lack the level of maturity needed to sustain a healthy happy relationship, you'll just end up causing misery and crushed dreams for you and the poor unsuspecting gf.
I'm not being mean. The fact that you've completely ignored every ounce of advice, and twisted every bit of info to fit into your warped sense of logic/reality is testament to my 1st statement. Do yourself and future Mrs Anthony a favour and get PROFESSIONAL help... Once you UNDERSTAND that your perceptions are skewed, you can work towards rectifying them, and this will lead to a much better future than the bleak 1 you are now facing. |
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Well I do understand all the advice you all gave but it all is asking ME to be the one to change and make drastic change in course.
I checked with some experts, did some reflection, and even got some great advice in the Guy section of this forum today... It is extremely difficult to make the changes you suggest because it is not a problem of my attitude it is a problem of my "nurturing", or lack thereof. Upbringing and role of parents can have a huge effect on someone and so it is not that easy to be a new Anthony if you never learned how from anyone. I realized it is not sex itself that is my entire goal but that I am into "soft and cuddly " things. I constantly seek that nurturing touch from a female. That soft hug, that gentle caress. That feeling of utter comfort and safety in her arms. That is not an easy trait to undo.. a man's constant yearning for real love and affection. ![]() Quote:
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No one can make changes in your life by you. YOU have to work to reach the goals you long for in your life. You have absolutely no power to change anyone else. You only have control over you.
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Well, I am not going to "spank you" verbally for being angry and frustrated about your not being successful in finding a loving partner. And considering the fact that in this group of forums the two busiest forums are the Relationships, and Depression forums, it would be safe to say that you are truely not the only one that struggles with finding, or trying to maintain a relationship with the opposite sex. And I am sure there are problems in same sex relationships as well.
And in the Relationship forum, there are a lot of questions that start with, why are men so, or why are women so, or what is wrong with me? And it can run a gamit of emotional reactions that are anywhere from "someone who is angry and frustrated" at the opposite sex, to someone who is past that part and onto taking all that anger inward to a point where they are now "severely depressed" and don't even want to get out of bed anymore. I was thinking this morning about how all this trouble really began to take off to where so many truely struggle today. I thought about how men and women were originally doing this "relationship" thing. And I thought about how the male went out all day hunting, even did this with other men so there was a better chance at obtaining food. And how the women were more in a place where they were with the offspring and waiting for this food to enter onto the scene so they could prepare it to eat. And the women also had to learn how to make the protective warm clothing for the family and how that really filled her days. And then when we learned to grow crops, well, the men were still out all day tending to that, while again the women kept the home/shelter and cooked and tended to the children and still kept the clothing and blanket making etc, that took her all day. So, there was never really a lot of time to talk and have the kind of relationships we have today. For a very LONG time, women had their roles and men had their roles too. Even the wealthy maintained that role playing to a certain extent. Well, then came the womens movement because women wanted more rights and they wanted to be educated and have a say in this man's world too. And that happened when women had more time to actually think about more than cooking and making clothing and just surviving everyday. After all women ARE intelligent by their own right. So, we have gotten to a point now where this change is really effecting how women select men and think about family life overall. And because women are groomed by their mothers and they are designed to learn from their mothers and also learn where mom might have made the wrong choice in a male partner and suffered for it, women now have changed. Women that are now in their 20's and 30's are a lot more independant and they don't want to be caught in an unhappy marriage and they want to be more independant. So women themselves are not so quick to make a big commitment to a husband and even having children. And for the families where women are in their 50's and 60's, the parents of these 20's and 30's, there was a lot of "divorce". There were a lot less women and men that actually worked on their relationship and communication skills, and they just opted out when things got challenging. So, a big part of this "relationship challenge" is not just you anthony, this is something many are discovering a difficulty with. And while you have a very "real" frustration shared by many others, we cannot really put the "blame" all on women. Women are not doing this on purpose, they actually are not sure what they want right now. That clear definition that used to exist is only a small residue of what it used to be. And though there is the "drive" in women "hormonally" to feel that need to settle and procreate, there is also that desire for "independance" tugging on their psychie as well. And men are still motiviated to follow that same pattern they always followed. And yet they are also being influenced towards a "peterpan" sentiment too. And men can wait longer to "settle down with one mate" because they don't have that cut off age when bearing children is either "very risky" or "just not viable anymore" like women have. And the other thing that is also happening is that the young women and men, even as young as preteens, are being BRAIN WASHED with constant images of WHAT IS BEAUTIFUL AND WHAT IS HANDSOME and desirable. It is actually getting pretty sicking because very few people can "look like" these airbrushed altered perfect images that are everywhere we look. And on top of that, these images leave little up to the imagination, so it is not just about clothes, but about standing in front of a mirror naked and critiquing what nature itself provided. Well, that is totally INSANE, yet we continue to present these unrealistic images. No wonder we are fighting obesity more than ever before, if we sit all day and get inindated with images we cannot possibley attain, who wouldn't just give in and eat to fill some strange constant "void". No wonder why so many teens battle depression. Honestly we are driving ourselves crazy with images that are not really natural. And so a guy who can't look like Richard Gere is it? isn't going to get the girl? And girls think they have to have a Richard Gere to show off too? Wow, that is pretty sick if you ask me. And so what if someone does get a Richard Gere, then what? Well, what comes next, oh, a relationship, WHATS THAT? OMG, did we forget something?, Oh yeah, we forgot to learn about what that is, yeah we didn't see that on any bill board or magazine cover did we? Oh wait a minute, lets see, um what goes with Richard Gere, um he has a good money job, and he has a sports car and um, yeah gotta have the right clothes, and um what am I missing, um do I need a a yes a ROLEX yeah. Ok, I think I am looking pretty good LETS GO FIND Jaylo. And Jaylo? Well, I think she is free now because her Richard Gere didn't pan out. What is going to help if we don't get Jaylo? We have the internet and an asortment of dating services now, lets go see if we can find Jaylo. What is wrong with this picture, when someone isn't finding a relationship, who should we blame? I had to stop this post and do something, so I came back to add to it. I just wanted to talk about the fact that you are not alone in the relationship struggle and frustration anthony, so it is important to not "blame" women for this. My daughter is only a couple of years younger than you and in her graduating class most of her peirs parents were divorced. And my daughter has been in a relationship with a guy for 8 years and she still is not ready to make that big time comitment. And many of her friends that have, are very unhappy and stuck in some way. So it isn't something one just "jumps into" anymore. Also the economic climate is very troubling right now and that makes is hard to feel settled enough where a relationship is going to seem attractive and workable because your age group is challenged that way as well. So, I understand your impatience and frustrations, but you are truely not alone in that. You do have some personal changes to make as well. You cannot help it if you didnt get to observe a working relationship growing up either. However, even in that you are not alone so don't go thinking you are unworthy in that sense either. It IS a challenge today to find someone and have a good relationship. And it is important that you don't look at the people that "seem" to be enjoying relationships and see something more than what is really there too. Just because you see others in relationships doesn't mean they are in a "good and healthy" relationship. And if you do find a female it is important that you don't send off vibes that you want to control her either. Haste makes waste, always remember that. Open Eyes Last edited by Open Eyes; Aug 15, 2012 at 02:58 PM. |
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Okay, do me a favor. you like pets step 1- Find out where your local humane society is or ASPCA step 2- call, or go there, or if you can fill out a volunteer application online do soooooo.... step 3- show up to volunteer Do it.....for these reasons.... First of all dive into things you enjoy and while doing so you will meet people that also enjoy these things that you enjoy....and get to know them....and you are helping your community.... I am currently volunteering myself for my local humane society... Believe it or not another mistake I think you are making is that you are going to typical "dating" places. (bars, clubs, blah blah) Yet you state you are not into drinking beer....Go places you like to go to...go to a rock concert, find out how to volunteer for politics in your area....go places with common interests.... also check out http://www.meetup.com great site for finding groups of people with common interests to hang out with.....I belong to a digital photography group, volunteer group, and snowboarding group, great way to keep yourself active and out of the typical crap of bars and clubs......
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Totally hear you Open Eyes. I'm frustrated myself with what the media bombards us with in terms of defining beauty. Our world in some sense has bedazzled us with so much artificiality that we don't appreciate true organic beauty any more. Hell, we even have fish injected with colour to appeal to consumers. We focus so much on the external, we lose what counts most, the internal and then we wonder why when we near the end of our lives, we are discontent and lonely.
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Hi Anthony: Perhaps I didn't phrase my questions well. I wasn't wondering where you met the girls or the statistical outcomes, but curious as to what type of girls you generally pursue/approach? Are they usually brunettes, blonds, tall, short, quite, funny, domineering, intelligent, passive, assertive, passive-aggressive? What makes you decide to yourself, "I really want to meet this girl?" How do you define "approachable?"
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Your biggest problems is that you want a FEMALE OBJECT to fulfill your needs and desires. The fact that you are asking about what "type" of girl to go for and talking about women as statistcs demonstrates that you do not care WHO this girl is... you just want a warm female body to use. You may think you feel love for these girls or that you want intimacy and depth-- but you don't. You say, over and over, that the "goal" is to get a relationship and you talk about the "steps towards the goal." A woman and a relationship are not "goals." You cannot "achieve" them. The problem is the way you think about women. You are acting arrogant and entitled-- you are not entitled to a woman: to her time, affection, body, etc. Moreover, you are SO ANGRY at women that you repel them. Your anger is absolute poision to any possibility of a relationship. If you ACTUALLY wanted to have a MUTUAL relationship with a woman, you would take the time to talk to a therpaist about your anger towards women and your objectification of women. It is absolutely impossible to develop a healthy relationship until you work on the way you think and behave. The reason women are repelled by you is because you treat them and think about them like interchangeable objects that you are entitled to use sexually if you buy them a meal. At no point have you ever considered their needs, their feelings, their wishes. Women are SO SICK of men COMING ON TOO STRONG AND PUSHING FOR THE PHYSICAL TOO FAST. That shows immediately that your focus is on your sexual needs and not their physical safety or emotional needs. You come off as a THREAT! Your talking about wanting to cuddle and wanting to hug and wanting to touch and taking them to park benches is SCARY. You have a problem understanding that intimacy is not primarily phsycial. In order for a woman to desire any physical intimacy with you she FIRST has to feel physically safe with you, which takes TIME, she has to feel emotionally close to you which takes TIME, and she has to feel an attraction to you, which is something that is not logical and cannot be explained. It just is or is not. If you actually had any desire to get to KNOW a woman for who SHE is, you would take the TIME to find out who she is before you start pushing for something. You also talk so much about compromise and meeting half-way. A woman does not want to compromise or meet half-way or make due with the creepy smuck who's desperate and available. A woman wants to find someone who she's attracted to, who she thinks is charming, who sweeps her off her feet, who makes her heart beat, who makes her smile, who she daydreams about. She does not and SHOULD NOT settle for the random schmuk who happens to be sitting there at this one moment. Any attractive woman has several people interested in her-- she does not NEED to settle. She is not desperate. She wants to stop wasting her time with the wrong person so she can meet the right person. The beginning of any good relationship feels like a dream-come-true honeymoon lovey-dovey paradise. If you cannot make her feel this way, she wants nothing to do with you. Compromise comes later, after the honeymoon phase. Not on date 1. If there needs to be compromise in order to get to date 2, YOU ARE NOT A FIT FOR EACH OTHER AND YOU NEVER WILL BE. If you cannot understand these basic life and relationship principles, please get the therapy you need in order to learn them. Otherwise, you will continue to repeat your patterns and continue to be miserable, and you will be 42 and 52 and 62 and still single and alone.
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I for one do not think that single & alone is a bad thing.....I rather like it after 33 years of living with the guy I married & the only good part was when I had my career to become a workaholic at......I ended up with my degree & in the same career as my H.....but living with him & his attitudes & approach to things was like living in hell.......
When I left him 5 years ago....to move 2100 miles away where I didn't know anyone....it was the first time in my life that I really got to know who I was & be able to control my life on MY terms.....I would never go back to being with a guy to snuggle or anything else. Problem was that I saw the red flags before I ended up marrying him. What I didn't know was that those red flags destroyed the marriage before it even started......he never changed or grew up to be responsible......I can tell you one thing....a relationship is more than just snuggling....it's about taking care of each other in RESPONSIBLE financial ways.....if you can't do that, you don't belong in a relationship especially if all you think goes into a relationship is soft cuddly stuff. I honestly think that there are some people who should not only never get married, but shouldn't even get into relationships....lack of maturity, lack of responsibility.....all sorts of reasons & one is better off not even bothering.
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It sounds like you may need to see a therapist to work on issues around your parents, ESP. your mother.
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Anthony,
As I mentioned, it is very important that you make sure you take a realistic look at what is taking place in today's "relationship scene". You have a lot of anger and frustration going and a lot of that is directed at women. That is the wrong place to direct your frustrations, and that is what your father did and why your mother left him. So, learn from that as something "not" to do. As an individual, you were raised without the comfort of parents that interacted and connected to each other. And you didn't have them give that interaction and connection to you either. When this happens, sometimes a child can turn out to be a very resentful "man" and instead of just seeing the people his parents were, even what it was that caused his mother to leave and even walk away from her child, somehow things can get distorted to "blaming all women". And the same rings true for female children that have a troubled abusive "father" and also see their mother's unhappy and struggling. And, unfortunately, there was a lot of that anthony in your parent's generation. Your question here is "What "type" of girl should I "chase" and what type of girl should I "avoid"? First of all, there should be NO "CHASING". And what comes "first" is "self evaluation". Because if you are looking for a "mother" in your relationship, then you will never find it. And you have to make sure that you have not imprinted your "fathers" negetive views and manerisms as well. And that is something that we all do unknowingly, we all tend to take on the moods and preducices of our parents without even realizing it. Now, my own daughter as I mentioned is not a girl that would ever be in the bars, dating services, or places you go "chasing girls". In fact, whenever my daughter went to a bar with her friends, she would dance and even flirt with guys, however, the rule was that none of these guys were going to be dated or let in beyond maybe a dance etc. And that whole rule came from the fact that she knew these guys were just trolling for chicks and a lay. So my daughter very rarely went to bars etc. And my daughter hates the whole dating scene to be honest. She feels that it is just a meat market and very shallow and fake. My daughter is in a relationship but it is not making her 100% happy. Her boyfriend, like my husband, is a binge alcoholic. Her boyfriend is very controling and judgemental as well. She is attracted to him, but he is a very difficult guy, yet he does love animals. Unfortunately my daughter saw me work on my marriage because my husband was a good man, but he had some significant problems. And I was afraid of that, I was afraid that when I chose to work on my marriage, it would teach her to do the same. If I chose divorce she would have been devastated and she would not have had the lifestyle she had either. And by the way, my daughter doesn't like tall men, or Richard Gere types. What you "don't" understand is that if you go "girl chasing" in the same places, you will tend to be around very similar kinds of girls. And girls these days, many of them come from broken families too. So they have a tendency to be confused about relationships as well. First, you have to work out the issues that your parents gave you. You really do, because if you don't your perception of "what girl to chase" will be way off. AND, you will get frustrated, fail, and end up right where you are, blaming women and thinking that they are "users and unreasonable". Do you want to end up like your father? Because yes he is a work hound etc, but he is an angry man that somehow feels shortchanged and angry and he can't even sit and talk with his own son without ending up just yelling at his son. Well, how bad is that? Yes, that is bad. Do you even have a relationship with your mother? Because you have not talked about her at all. And I wonder if you are angry with her, thinking she deserted you and that is also important for you to work through, because the reasons for that is not about you being unworthy of a woman loving you. And your "strong need for that in your life" is twisted and distorted because of your own mother. And this is very common in men and it interferes with any "good relationship" with any woman. This Richard Gere in the movie "American Giggilo" you are talking about, that is a fictional charector. That is not a real good portrayl of what women want in a man. That is some writter's imagination going to write about something that an audience might find different and entertaining. And that is similar to "Sex in the City" which portrays women as "looking for good sex in a man" and "their adventures figuring out who Mr, Right might be". And "most" men get very turned off by "Sex in the City". However there "are" some points made in that program that touch on some areas that women think about when considering a male partner. But a lot of liberties are taken which can lead men to thinking all women are like these charectors, so only a small portion of what they say and feel should be considered. And "most" men who like to control, "pick the passive innocent charector" as their favorite. That is the one my daughter's boyfriend likes, interesting to know. A relationship is "not" boy meets girl, boy and girl have jobs, they kinda like each other and end up having sex, boy marries girl, boy works his job, girl works her job, come home, girl makes dinner they talk about work, maybe watch a little TV, have sex, go to sleep and repeat this all over again each day. Because eventually boy and girl get bored. What the best case scenario is, boy and girl meet while doing something they have passion for, other than work. Maybe girl loves horses because hundreds of them do, and she meets a boy that also loves horses and they share that love together. Maybe on the weekends they ride their horses together, maybe they trail ride together or show the horses in horse shows together and learn about it together. Maybe it is something different like "sailing" where boy and girl enjoy doing that together. Maybe it revolves around biking or art, or dancing or the love of realestate and the love of fixing things up or the love of architecture and design or music or writing and there can be a long list of passions. That is something that a relationship can flourish around that is not just about "his job, her job" and that daily routine that isn't really about passion and common interest at all. What is "anthony's passion"? What do you like in life that you enjoy doing. And don't say girls or chasing girls, because if that is all you do in your spare time, then you will never enjoy a healthy relationship. AND, if you go fishing for girls in places that I or others suggest just to find a new place to "chase" girls, you still will come up empty because all you would be doing is going to a different area and saying "here I am, ready for you to love, cuddle, apprecitate and take care of my needs, because I am a "good" guy". Anthony, girls are "not" interested in that kind of relationship. That is what your father wanted and when it didn't work, he grew angry and resentful towards everyone. And somewhere in his mind if he works hard enough and has a home and money then he deserves to have a woman "wait on him and love him and be greatful she found him". Sigh....so many men have it so wrong. What kind of relationships have a greater tendency to work are relationships where boy and girl and even gay partners share passions and interests with. And there cannot be pretend, they have to genuinely like to step out and enjoy doing things together. And when that happens they learn to learn together, interact based on how they think about what they are learning and be able to say for example, when we went sking today I found that I actually do better in less packed power on the slops or I am trying to improve the way I criss cross down the slop, and the other partner says, yeah me too, but how about you try what I learned and they go back to the slope and try something different. That is a relationship that "works". So while they have their jobs etc, when they get home they say, "So this weekend lets take our horses up to Mount Sky and see what those trails are like because Low Valley was nice but the footing was too rocky and my horse is a bit foot sore, but next month I was thinking about taking the whole weekend and going to Vermont to that bed and breakfast with our horses and catch that fall foliage". Anthony, that is what a relationship is about and it has nothing to do with "chasing girls". It is a boy is doing something he loves to do, and he meets a girl doing that same thing and they get to talking and "join up" and do it together and they find out that they do it well together and they like it and become friends and they fall in love. And if this boy and girl happen to have children, they just teach the children how this relationship thing works and the children become part of lets go here this weekend and do this as a family. Open Eyes Last edited by Open Eyes; Aug 16, 2012 at 10:13 AM. |
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((eskielover))),
If you met an older man that loved to trail ride and fix up the farm and maybe go out to autions and check out some equipment and things/toys for the farm etc. A man that maybe the two of you could plan on some riding vacations and do somethings that turn you both on in the same way, I think you would be very open to considering a relationship again. At the very least you would enjoy the friendship of that interesting man. We all have a way of thinking about relationships the wrong way, especially if we have been in a relationship that we somehow had to hold together and babysit the partner we had. And you are right, that is too much work to even think about trying again if you happen to get away from some spoiled dead weight that drags you down every chance they get, ugh, going it alone is much more inviting. There is an old saying, "A family that plays together stays together" and that is very, very true. And somehow we have gotten away from that with all that has been going on in our economy and the way we have grown to look at marriages as well. Right now most people are focusing on just the basics of surviving and having a home, and these family outings and hobbies are falling by the wayside. Well, no wonder why people are falling into depression. We are just not designed to feel so vulnerable all the time. And in the times when all we did is focus on that "just surviving" we didn't live very long. Actually 25 was about the average life span, REALLY, and it was not unusal to lose more than one child to some kind of illness because we didn't have the antibiotics and other things available to us that we have now. What is happening today is that somehow with all the marketing we are exposed to now, we tend to believe if we have the right "stuff" and "look" we can burst onto the scene and say, "here I am, I have what the market is suggesting is happyness so I am ready to be loved and adored". Well, we do not "shop" for a relationship, we are getting to a point where we are so blinded by "marketing" that we actually think that is what we need to do. Ugh No, it is not even about members here giving Anthony a list of places to go "shopping" either. It is truely not about "shopping" at all. And that is what is being missed more and more and leading to, "If it doesn't work out, if it doesnt fit than throw it away". We are not supposed to be "consumers" when it comes to relationships. Some of these dating services do try to pair people together that have common interests because it provides a better chance for a successful relationship to happen. But, the problem is that what can happen is someone can just pick out what they think may attract more women and not be really talking about their passion so in that, they are not going to make a true connection. Now, we tend to look at a ton of actresses and models both male and female and then see what "type" attracts us and go "chasing" but that is never going to work either. A relationship is "not" a comodity. Open Eyes |
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I think that maybe you should just be happy your getting any vagina, and any girls in general then finding one that will do **** & fetish taboo stuff with you...
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I agree with a few others - you shouldn't date/look for women because you only focus on young women for their looks and wanting sex. You're too obsessed with women / sex and I fear for these women you're with. When a person tries too hard, people can sense the desperation. After reading how you pursue women....this gives a negative vibe. Now you're taking this off the forums and TBH I / some others don't want to hear what turns you on. Often when a persons not looking they end up finding a partner. I haven't heard you say what personality traits you want. You can't even keep your eyes on one woman, so how could you be loyal to have a real relationship. Get out and do something meaningful rather than thinking about yourself all the time.
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seems like this is all fake and your just looking to get a rise out of people, I would suggest you read this guy's other posts before replying to him anymore.
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Oh he's long gone. For whatever reason.
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As soon as I saw the title I caught a whiff of "but I'm a Nice Guy y u no date me."
If I can smell it before looking at the topic, a girl in real life can smell it from a mile away. |
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